BLM (Black Lives Matter) is a type of Baal worship.

[bibleprophecy]

Be Careful Of Sowing Discord!
Proverbs 6:16 There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and someone who stirs up trouble among friends..
“One that sows discord among brothers” is an Abomination to God.

 

[soggykitten]

Statistics without context are empty numbers. For example, let's say you cross the street between traffic lights and get arrested for jaywalking. You are now a criminal in the system. Your name forever associated with crime. This gets placed on your record and when you get interviewed for a job and are asked if you have a criminal record you must say "yes". If you say "no" you'd be lying, which is worse to do.

This question is also on applications. And typically there aren't any follow-up questions to understand the context of your crime. You must mark "yes", and will most likely be passed on for the job.

Without context, statistics do not tell the complete story. This goes for any set of statistics, whether we're discussing crime or monetary policy, or whatever.

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Now I joked with Karlagrl about her "ism" showing because she's doing exactly what most do when they slip into an "ism": make blanketed assumptions and generalizations.

For example, if I were to say, "If women weren't so irrational and emotional our society would be a less chaotic place", how would a woman most likely respond? Would they say:

A) "lol you're right! And it's my job - as a woman - to help solve this problem for my gender as a whole. Society demands it."

OR

B) "That's an extremely *sexist* statement to make. It's a blanketed statement made about all women that assume we're all irrational and overly emotional. You can't assume the problems in society are directly attributed to all women."

...most likely they'd say something close to "B" if not exactly "B". Sexism.

Well, that's the same thing happening when a person says, "Far more black people are killed within their own community by their own community." If we take this statement on its face it doesn't give any context or distinction between upstanding citizens and degenerate criminals in that community, it just groups them all together.

Compound this with phrases like "black on black" crime, and statements like "the police shouldn't be the most important issue to the black community but rather their own community killing themselves", making no distinction between good and bad people (which every ethnic group possesses), we're consequently saying that "blacks - as an ethnic group - are more criminal than any other ethnic group".

We have to be careful we're not making blanketed statements and generalizations.

Praise God for his leading the message into this discussion. Be wary of sewing discord.

You are the only one I have read that says what you've marked in red there.

I feel you have not read what is being said in this discussion. Not just by kaylagrl. To my knowledge no one has made a sweeping claim about any group of people. While denouncing crime statistics do occur among all races and with attention to the black community due to the subject of this talk,isn't playing fair.

The point of fact remains. Crime statistics are tallied that show people victimize one another always in all ways. No one community is exempt from accountability due to their race.
Meanwhile, you show no statistics to prove what you contend is true.
Meanwhile, statistics remain whether we agree with them or not.

Table below found here. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

And this also.

Information found here. https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes
And television became a powerful tool for brainwashing. Situational ethics and moral tweaking to produce a product of sheeple.

I fully agree TV was/is used in social brainwashing.

They weren't silent on the fact, as the name for shows on TV in the 60's - 90's were called (Programs) no kidding

 

[Hevosmies]

Crime is crime. There's no special designation of "black on black" crime that's different from other crimes committed by criminals against upstanding citizens anywhere.

Hold your horses sir. I come from the mean streets and I can assure you that most crime in the hood isnt criminals vs "upstanding citizens"
Its gangmembers vs gangmembers.
Immoral people vs immoral people

Thats the VAST majority of violence in the hoods of America (and the world). Trust me. Its the same thing in prison, all the violecne in prison is bad people vs bad people.
By vast majority id say like 80% for sure. Just look at how much they glorify violence, drugs, sexual immorality and all that comes with it in the hoods of America and you'll see the real problem.

You are right that its not a black on black thing, there are whites and latinos and asians that act this way too, its the whole gang culture that people are tryna imitate. IF I GOT A DIME for each person coming thru the pen thinking they "hard" only to get checked REAL QUICK, id be a rich man.

People think the gang life and speaking like that is cool, its all fun and games till they get locked up, doing small time and end up doing life instead cause they had to put in work. Or they just rolled up before they even got to prison and snitched on their whole crew after the gang gang thing came too real, protective custody.

IN SHORT as I always like to babble and babble on: The problem isnt the police or the blacks or the whites or the this or the that, ITS SIN. SIN is whats killing us in this world, ruining the next generation.

 

[Hevosmies]

Compound this with phrases like "black on black" crime, and statements like "the police shouldn't be the most important issue to the black community but rather their own community killing themselves", making no distinction between good and bad people (which every ethnic group possesses), we're consequently saying that "blacks - as an ethnic group - are more criminal than any other ethnic group".

We have to be careful we're not making blanketed statements and generalizations.

Someone already posted the stats I think, but they are. Yes. Thats not racism my guy, thats a FACT. Its a statistic, they commit more crime than other groups in America.

And thats not just in America, UK same thing. Im a gypsy okay, if you look at our stats, in Finland gypsies are 0.2% of the population and commit 28% of all roberies. Now THATS a staggering statistic. So is it racist to say that? Or is it true that yes, in Finland gypsies got a major crime issue and are more criminal than other ethnic groups? I can say that being one myself, knowing so many people in our community that yes we are one of the most criminal ethnic groups in this country, and according to statistics also in Bulgaria and other places.

There is a reason for stereotypes you know?

Of course we also play the victim game that we got discriminated against by the government here and we couldnt own land until the 80s and all that. But none of that excuses the crime going on, there is NO justification for crime ever.

I love black people and i wish they'll get out of this swamp. As someone already said, hip hop in the 80s and the crack epidemic REALLY set the stone in motion to destroy the black community. Add to this the democrat genocide of abortion and "Planned parenthood":... African americans got it tough. If you are trying to work and live right you are "trying to be white" and "soft", if you act like a criminal or a thug youre "a real one"...... THANKS HIP HOP

 

[Hevosmies]

I think I will take a bow out of this thread I just realized this is BIBLE discussion and this got nothing to do with the Bible lol. SORRY MODS

I 'll leave yall with these words: All these folks in the hood need to hear the GOSPEL. Thats the ultimate solution to crime, is to bring people to Christ. Thats how we heal the next generation wounded since birth!

 

[Yahshua]

Hold your horses sir. I come from the mean streets and I can assure you that most crime in the hood isnt criminals vs "upstanding citizens"
Its gangmembers vs gangmembers.
Immoral people vs immoral people

Thats the VAST majority of violence in the hoods of America (and the world). Trust me. Its the same thing in prison, all the violecne in prison is bad people vs bad people.
By vast majority id say like 80% for sure. Just look at how much they glorify violence, drugs, sexual immorality and all that comes with it in the hoods of America and you'll see the real problem.

You are right that its not a black on black thing, there are whites and latinos and asians that act this way too, its the whole gang culture that people are tryna imitate. IF I GOT A DIME for each person coming thru the pen thinking they "hard" only to get checked REAL QUICK, id be a rich man.

People think the gang life and speaking like that is cool, its all fun and games till they get locked up, doing small time and end up doing life instead cause they had to put in work. Or they just rolled up before they even got to prison and snitched on their whole crew after the gang gang thing came too real, protective custody.

IN SHORT as I always like to babble and babble on: The problem isnt the police or the blacks or the whites or the this or the that, ITS SIN. SIN is whats killing us in this world, ruining the next generation.

I fully respect your position here because you're making a distinction defining exactly what the criminal element is. Gangs. Immoral people. Sinners.

Someone already posted the stats I think, but they are. Yes. Thats not racism my guy, thats a FACT. Its a statistic, they commit more crime than other groups in America.

And thats not just in America, UK same thing. Im a gypsy okay, if you look at our stats, in Finland gypsies are 0.2% of the population and commit 28% of all roberies. Now THATS a staggering statistic. So is it racist to say that? Or is it true that yes, in Finland gypsies got a major crime issue and are more criminal than other ethnic groups? I can say that being one myself, knowing so many people in our community that yes we are one of the most criminal ethnic groups in this country, and according to statistics also in Bulgaria and other places.

There is a reason for stereotypes you know?

Of course we also play the victim game that we got discriminated against by the government here and we couldnt own land until the 80s and all that. But none of that excuses the crime going on, there is NO justification for crime ever.

Even with you identifying as Gypsy and saying that your ethnic group is more criminal, I can't agree, firstly, because I don't know ANYTHING about Finland (lol) and secondly because one's morality isn't determined by their ethnicity. This is the problem with stats...because if we followed the logic through to its conclusion, to end 28% of robberies in Finland all we need to do is get rid of gypsies from Finland. It also suggests that I'm talking to a potential criminal right now and would be safe to treat you like one.

...But that wouldn't be giving you a fair chance as an individual. See what I mean?

 

[kaylagrl]

lol yeah, you seem really concerned with their plight..

Lol yeah, bout as concerned as you are about anti-Jew sentiment Judge much?!

But secular agenda? I have a biblical agenda I've been "blathering" on about though. I'm not the one who's been down-voting posts that call for us to ignore party affiliations here. seems like you're more aligned with a political party than with the Messiah, but I could be wrong *shrugs*...

Yep, you're wrong. That's what three times? But who's counting. I have already there's nothing wrong with Christians being politically involved. And BLM/ Antifa are politcally involved, you better believe it. If you call yourself a Christian and can support the Dem agenda I'm at a total loss. I don't ignore party affiliation, I stand up for what I believe in. I don't back down and I don't jump on the virtual signalling band wagon to try and prove I'm not an "ism". I know my heart, more importantly God knows my heart. You can follow the PC, virtual signalling, cancel culture crowd like lemmings right off the cliff. I'm good, I know what I believe, I know who I am. You have you a good day.

 

[kaylagrl]

Now I joked with Karlagrl about her "ism" showing because she's doing exactly what most do when they slip into an "ism": make blanketed assumptions and generalizations.

Lol got a mirror? Stats aren't assumptions or generalizations. That's why that are called STATS. Maybe you need to Google that word.

Well, that's the same thing happening when a person says, "Far more black people are killed within their own community by their own community." If we take this statement on its face it doesn't give any context or distinction between upstanding citizens and degenerate criminals in that community, it just groups them all together.

Please oh please stop with the examples. They have absolutely nothing to do with facts. It's getting painful. 374 people killed in Chicago, black on black crime.

Criminal - a person who has committed a crime

Upstanding Citizen- person who has not committed a crime.

Murder -the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

Do we understand now??

[QUOTE="Yahshua, post: 4320846, member: 176016" Compound this with phrases like "black on black" crime, and statements like "the police shouldn't be the most important issue to the black community but rather their own community killing themselves", making no distinction between good and bad people (which every ethnic group possesses), we're consequently saying that "blacks - as an ethnic group - are more criminal than any other ethnic group".We have to be careful we're not making blanketed statements and generalizations.[/QUOTE]

So when did kaylagrl ever intimate that all blacks are criminals, that blacks are "more" criminal that any other group, that cops aren't important to any and all communities. Talk about generalizations and blanket statements. Sheesh!! Pot here's you're kettle.

 

[Nehemiah6]

because one's morality isn't determined by their ethnicity...

Unfortunately, morality seems to be determined by ethnicity, since ethnicity is regulated by culture. And the facts bear this out (whether it is politically correct or not).

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

 

[Yahshua]

Lol yeah, bout as concerned as you are about anti-Jew sentiment Judge much?!

You wouldn't believe how concerned I am about anti-Jew sentiment lol

Yep, you're wrong. That's what three times? But who's counting. I have already there's nothing wrong with Christians being politically involved. And BLM/ Antifa are politcally involved, you better believe it. If you call yourself a Christian and can support the Dem agenda I'm at a total loss. I don't ignore party affiliation, I stand up for what I believe in. I don't back down and I don't jump on the virtual signalling band wagon to try and prove I'm not an "ism". I know my heart, more importantly God knows my heart. You can follow the PC, virtual signalling, cancel culture crowd like lemmings right off the cliff. I'm good, I know what I believe, I know who I am. You have you a good day.

So many buzzwords and labels. *sigh* I'm an eagle's fan if you must know. What does that say about me? These groups and organizations amount to nothing more than sports teams to me.

- I see Team Dem/liberals as "for the poor, but contrary to the faith with a love of the world", thus lawless.

- I see Team Rep/conservatives as "professes the faith, but contrary to the poor with a love of mammon", thus hypocrites.

To me, both teams contradict the Messiah's ways is one way or another.

Please oh please stop with the examples.

But...it wasn't an example...was exactly what you said, word for word. "Far more black people are killed within their own community by their own community." That's a fact. You don't remember? I'm just going by what you literally said.

You seem upset. Seems like it's rapid-fire round now. Hey and I thought you said have a good day??

 

[garee]

The land belongs to the Jews. Biblically and historically. No one has been kicked off their land. Israel sits on 1% of the land in the ME and the world can't even allow them that. It is their homeland, they have 3000 yrs of history in the land. Palestinians were offered land and refused it because they hated the Jews so badly they didn't want to share the land. They don't get to turn around now and cry about it.

The eternal land not of here belongs to God. God is not a man No land belongs to mankind .They did not create it .God's name is Jealous .He owns all things. He will not a share his glory with the corrupted things seen

His kingdom comes not be observation. We use as stewards of the good things of God the temporal things seen, History mixing it with faith to give us the unseen spirutl understanding hid from the lost Jews and gentiles (mankind). Its not about the flesh of corrupted mankind . What we see the (temporal) must be mixed with faith.(eternal) Or we receive no rest from our own works like unrighteous Cain .The mark of Cain 666 the restless wanderer

No rightly dividing the parables. No gospel .

Where there is no vision there is no law of faith . Faith revels the unsen wil that works in us.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

 

[soggykitten]

Maybe we should clarify something else in this discussion to this point. Maybe it is what I've heard termed, a distinction without a difference? May be wrong about that though.
We're now reading that someone is to be correct in their point of view on this topic because they've categorized the criminal element under discussion as sinners, and gangs, and immoral people. See post 307.
I would think we would agree from the first posting in this discussion that what we're talking about are immoral people, sinners. While gang affiliation is the occupation of a particular group of immoral sinners. Those , gangs, come in all colors too.

This discussion is particular to the evidence that Black Lives Matter provides as to their membership committed to sin and immoral conduct.

I think when we're speaking of those behaviors it is a distinct group of persons under discussion. It is not the entire black community itself. Because that would be presuming all black people are immoral sinners with gang affiliation and members of BLM.
That is what would be making a sweeping blanket implication against the entire community of blacks in America. That is not what is happening here to this point.

 

[soggykitten]

You wouldn't believe how concerned I am about anti-Jew sentiment lol



So many buzzwords and labels. *sigh* I'm an eagle's fan if you must know. What does that say about me? These groups and organizations amount to nothing more than sports teams to me.

- I see Team Dem/liberals as "for the poor, but contrary to the faith with a love of the world", thus lawless.

- I see Team Rep/conservatives as "professes the faith, but contrary to the poor with a love of mammon", thus hypocrites.

To me, both teams contradict the Messiah's ways is one way or another.



But...it wasn't an example...was exactly what you said, word for word. "Far more black people are killed within their own community by their own community." That's a fact. You don't remember? I'm just going by what you literally said.

You seem upset. Seems like it's rapid-fire round now. Hey and I thought you said have a good day??

Just to toss in here that the statistics show the numbers for black on black violent crime that far exceeds black on any other race crime, or vice versa.

Again too, making statements about black on black crime and all that, isn't making a blanket statement about the entire black community. It's a statement that directly relates to those who are criminals within the black community and who prey on the members of their black community.

The statistics mean that while we opine about the levels of crime in the black community, the criminals there are fully and solely responsible for making the statistics tally to reflect criminal behavior. I think you'd realize that if you spent time on the tables that have been posted pertaining to violent crime statistics that cover all races.

I don't think playing the antagonist role against all evidence to the contrary is very gracious of you.

 

[HolyPolitics]

Don't kneel to anyone ever.
The "black or dark Christ" is Baal, Baal was an African idol/demon worshiped by pagans, this same demon in Egypt was worshiped in the form of Seth, Anubis, etc.
See the Wikipedia article on Baal, and you will see that the gesture of the outstretched arm and closed hand is the same as done by the statue of Baal, as do the Black Lives Matter, communists, Afro groups, etc., all of whom love this same demon.
As is known, the Hebrews were light-skinned, and Jesus certainly also was light-skinned, although I do not believe he had light brown/blond hair and blue eyes, it is very likely that he looked like a typical Jewish and Syrian today, see the appearance of Solomon :
"My beloved [is] white and pink; he is the first among ten thousand.
His head [is like] the most refined gold, his hair is curly, black as a raven."
Song of Solomon 5:10-11

Yes brother, the BLM is certainly satanic.
They support sodomites (LGBT), Muslims, and many other forms of degenerates.
These filthy pro-crime individuals worship Satan, and they will burn in hell for eternity unless they repent.

On the topic of Jesus's skin color, you are also correct.
He had typical white/tanned middle eastern skin, like the average Hebrew.

 

[kaylagrl]

You wouldn't believe how concerned I am about anti-Jew sentiment lol

Really because I don't find some of your claims and comments about the Jews funny at all.

But...it wasn't an example...

To quote your own words

"For example, if I were to say, "If women weren't so irrational and emotional our society would be a less chaotic place", how would a woman most likely respond? Would they say:

A) "lol you're right! And it's my job - as a woman - to help solve this problem for my gender as a whole. Society demands it."
OR
B) "That's an extremely *sexist* statement to make. It's a blanketed statement made about all women that assume we're all irrational and overly emotional. You can't assume the problems in society are directly attributed to all women."

was exactly what you said, word for word. "Far more black people are killed within their own community by their own community." That's a fact. You don't remember? I'm just going by what you literally said.

Tap, tap,tap is this thing on? Last time. I said there is an issue in the black community with black on black crime. Black on black crime kills far more black people than white cops do, that is what we call a fact. Now, what I did NOT say is that blacks are criminals. I did NOT say police aren't important in black, or any, communities. I did NOT say all black lives don't matter. Everybody hear that in the back?! Good! Now drop it!

You seem upset..

I'm not upset, but I'm not going to let you go on about things I didn't say. Air is clear, problem solved.

Seems like it's rapid-fire round now. Hey and I thought you said have a good day??

Yes, I'm direct, does that stop you from having a good day? Hope not. Just a discussion board. BDF is always rough.

 

[HolyPolitics]

This is ridiculous. BLM is neither a terrorist organization, nor does it have anything whatsoever remotely to do with Baal worship.

PLUS: this THREAD has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Bible.

Doesn't the BLM destroy peoples property? Spray painting, smashing windows, damaging cars, etc?
I would define that as a terrorist organization.
Also this thread does have something to do with the bible, it literally mentions Baal worship which is spoken of in the bible...
Oh and if you deny that the BLM are inherently satanic you're likely some form of degenerate.

 

[HolyPolitics]

Jesus was a Jew, olive skinned Jew. And it does matter because God chose the Jewish people as the bloodline of Christ. What will help the situation is not to let BLM / Antifa and cancel culture to take over the country.

On the topic of race, he's a Israelite 100%, I would also say he is tanned.
Though Israelite's, like Jesus, are considered white.
Here's a picture of an average Israelite.

 

[Hevosmies]

...But that wouldn't be giving you a fair chance as an individual. See what I mean?

True. We have to take everyone as an individual and give them a chance, but im not offended if people act suspicious around a 6 ft 2 240pound tatted from head to toe gypsy LOL. Thats just common sense.

As Nehemiah pointed out above: Its largely by culture, and our culture is heavily based on respect....... FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE. So we are very careful about how we treat our parents and how we speak to them, we cant even live above them in a building (dont ask why, we got a ton of weird rules, like if you drop a fork on the ground, you cant wash it, throw it away its done for) and we have to talk in "ye" (plural) when talking to our elders, they get to eat first and all that.

BUT thats where it stops, we are taught to respect OUR people, but when its the general population we dont give a HOOT about the general population, and that is why the crime rate is so high, thats why gypsies are the only group in Finland that doesnt even graduate 9th GRADE, because they just dont care about society at large. Its just our own little world.

In America id say the issue is hip hop culture at large as was pointed out by two others here, thats what really caused a huge downfall, because if you look at the 60s, the black communities werent like this. People werent using n-word and b-word every other word.

I was just thinking about how MUSIC has destroyed all cultures, and its done so for whites here in Finland too, many people are "metalheads" and SURPRISE SURPRISE we got record numbers of suicide and depression and mental health problems, people cutting themselves, dropping out of life basically living on welfare. Clearly listening to demonic music with depressing tones and lyrics has done its job. Its madness to think music has no impact on people. IT CERTAINLY DOES.

 

[Nehemiah6]

That is what would be making a sweeping blanket implication against the entire community of blacks in America. That is not what is happening here to this point.

If an honest poll were taken of all black people in America, the majority would agree that BLM is actually THE ENEMY of the black population, since they are using the race card to sow discord and hatred while promoting Marxist/Communist ideology, which is NOT the ideology of the majority of blacks.

The ones who are decent, law-abiding citizens simply want to be left alone to have a life for themselves and their families. And huge numbers of blacks are regenerated Christians, who have no use for hatred. But black politicians -- the Black Caucus -- are the enemies of blacks. All the black mayors in US cities are the enemies of blacks. And so was Obama when he was in office. They did not give a hoot about the welfare of their black brethren.

The evil Democrats and their black self-serving politicians have been using the black community to further their own selfish interests for decades -- the destruction of America. Senile Joe Biden had the gall to publicly state that if any blacks did not vote for him "they ain't black". In other words, they are not slaves to the evil Democrats (as back in the days of slavery).

But now it is time for law-abiding black citizens to be outraged, and ask that all these BLM traitors be locked up and the key thrown away. And black Sheriff David Clarke should have been put in charge of dealing with all anarchists (of whatever color).