Born Again?

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Born Again?

These verses say that we must be born again, but born again actually means be born of woman (the water is the sack) and be born FROM above. Meaning unless we came from GOD to this flesh age through woman, we cannot return to GOD. It probably also means that fallen angels that never came through woman to this age cannot enter Heaven.

Joh 3:3 JesusG2424 answeredG611 andG2532 saidG2036 unto him,G846 Verily,G281 verily,G281 I sayG3004 unto thee,G4671 ExceptG3362 a manG5100 be bornG1080 again,G509 he cannotG1410 G3756 seeG1492 theG3588 kingdomG932 of God.G2316

G1080
γεννάω
gennaō
ghen-nah'-o
From a variation of G1085; to procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively to regenerate: - bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.

G509
ἄνωθεν
anōthen
an'-o-then
From G507; from above; by analogy from the first; by implication anew: - from above, again, from the beginning (very first), the top.
 
veryelect said:
Born Again?

These verses say that we must be born again, but born again actually means be born of woman (the water is the sack) and be born FROM above. Meaning unless we came from GOD to this flesh age through woman, we cannot return to GOD. It probably also means that fallen angels that never came through woman to this age cannot enter Heaven.

Joh 3:3 JesusG2424 answeredG611 andG2532 saidG2036 unto him,G846 Verily,G281 verily,G281 I sayG3004 unto thee,G4671 ExceptG3362 a manG5100 be bornG1080 again,G509 he cannotG1410 G3756 seeG1492 theG3588 kingdomG932 of God.G2316

G1080
γεννάω
gennaō
ghen-nah'-o
From a variation of G1085; to procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively to regenerate: - bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.

G509
ἄνωθεν
anōthen
an'-o-then
From G507; from above; by analogy from the first; by implication anew: - from above, again, from the beginning (very first), the top.
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All people are born naturally by a woman. But that only fills the natural realm. Christ came so that people born of the flesh can be born of the Spirit, filling the heavenly realm with souls.
 
Adam was born through God and His earth, and I do believe the earth is called a woman in the Bible...but dont quote me on that.
 
veryelect said:
Born Again?

These verses say that we must be born again, but born again actually means be born of woman (the water is the sack) and be born FROM above. Meaning unless we came from GOD to this flesh age through woman, we cannot return to GOD. It probably also means that fallen angels that never came through woman to this age cannot enter Heaven.

Joh 3:3 JesusG2424 answeredG611 andG2532 saidG2036 unto him,G846 Verily,G281 verily,G281 I sayG3004 unto thee,G4671 ExceptG3362 a manG5100 be bornG1080 again,G509 he cannotG1410 G3756 seeG1492 theG3588 kingdomG932 of God.G2316

G1080
γεννάω
gennaō
ghen-nah'-o
From a variation of G1085; to procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively to regenerate: - bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.

G509
ἄνωθεν
anōthen
an'-o-then
From G507; from above; by analogy from the first; by implication anew: - from above, again, from the beginning (very first), the top.
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by your own understanding.....a man is born already...through a water sack as you put it....someone tells him he must be born AGAIN of water and the spirit...why on earth would you think he is referring to the water sack he was already born with???did you not see born AGAIN .....you need to think things through.....Jesus never mentioned fallen angels...he said if YOU are not born of water and the spirit YOU cannot enter the kingdom...
 
A description of one who is born again...

Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Born at the resurrection to spirit life...

1Co 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
1Co 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
1Co 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

So, how many have been BORN again?

ONE!

Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

When are we born again? At the resurrection...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
 
Dont want to rain on your parade , but your falling for the same trick ( trying to dissect to the nth degree..losing hold on the point ! )( swallowing a camel and choking on a gnat ...) born AGAIN ..bit of a hint..

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? (natural thinking )

5 Jesus answered, Verily (truly ), verily ( truly ), I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water ( baptism , mentioned over and over in scripture ) and of the Spirit (Holy Ghost rom 8v9), he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see (perceive , understand )the kingdom of God.

be careful with the ever learning stuff or you may wind up with the same outcome...

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
 
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