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Hello saints of the Most High, sorry for taking long time to post again,please can you all forgive me please.
We were talking on Daniel 8 gotten from Mathew 24:15,and how angel Gabriel interpreted the vision for Daniel.
Brethren lets look at Daniel 8:8-9 -And the he-goat magnified himself exceedingly; and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and instead of it there came up the appearance of four horns toward the four winds of heaven. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the beauteous land.And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and some of the host and of the stars it cast down to the ground, and trampled upon them.
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[TD]Brethren take a look at the he-goat,after the great horn was broken,there came four horns and out of one of the four horns,came forth a little horn,which shows that only one horn waxed exceedingly great out of the four .
Brethren please take a look at the host of heaven and stars.So what does the Host Of Heaven means:
The "host of heaven" has two basic meanings and the meaning is determined by the context of the passages used in Scripture. Both heavenly (celestial) bodies -- the sun, moon, stars and angels are referred to as the "host of heaven." These two meanings also often overlap when angels are sometimes also referred to as stars (Judges 5:20; Job 25:5; 38:7, Revelation 1:20.
So if the little horn shall cast down the host of heaven,it means it shall cast down the stars,moon,sun.So we will seat one day and see the stars falling down.
Daniel 8:11- From NIV-It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the Lord; it took away the daily sacrifice from the Lord, and his sanctuary was thrown down
Daniel 8:11-From KJV-Yea, it magnified itself, even to the prince of the host; and from him the continual burnt-offering was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
Brethren looking through the net and i saw this site www. patmospaper.com which talked about Daniel 8:11-[SIZE=+1]And it cast down some of the host and the stars to the ground[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]
[/SIZE] In its new religious sphere, the little horn is described as directing its activities against "the host of heaven." "Stars" in prophecy symbolize angels (Revelation 1:20; Job 38:7; Revelation 12:4). How could the little horn do anything against the inhabitants of heaven? Comparing Daniel 8:10, 11 with Revelation 13:6, it appears that the little horn works to undermine the redemptive work of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary, a work in which all heaven is engaged.
Verse 11 Text
[SIZE=+1]"Yea, he magnified himself"[/SIZE]
This verse is describing the activities of the little horn. We noticed above that the little horn in this chapter represents Rome in its two phases. Phase one occurred under the rule of the caesars and emperors. Phase two represents the rule of the Catholic bishops and popes. The transition to the second phase occurs in verse 10, where the little horn's activities enter the spiritual realm. Verse 11, therefore, portrays the activites of the Roman papacy.
[SIZE=+1]"Even to the prince of the host"[/SIZE]
These are the same Hebrew words translated "captain of the host" in Joshua 5:14, referring to the Son of God.
[SIZE=+1]"And from him the daily sacrifice was taken away"[/SIZE] (margin)
Notice that the word "sacrifice" is italicized in the Authorized Version, indicating that it is a supplied word and was not in the original. So the verse actually says, "from him the daily was taken away." What is the "daily" which was "taken away" from Jesus by the papacy?
The "daily" is mentioned five times in the book of Daniel (8:11, 12, 13; 11:31; 12:11). The Hebrew word is tamid. Tamid is found more than a hundred times in the Old Testament, either as an adjective or an adverb, and is usually translated "continual," "perpetual," "always," or "ever." It is used in connection with every aspect of the sanctuary service. In addition to describing the daily sacrifices (which evidently is what the King James translators had in mind), tamid is also used to describe each of these sanctuary functions.
So whereas the KJV makes it look like the verse is talking about sacrifices being affected by the little horn, the word "sacrifice" is not even in the original Hebrew. The original word is one often used in the Old Testament to describe all the functions of the sanctuary. For this reason, some commentators have suggested a translation such as "the perpetual service" or "continual mediation."
In other words, the little horn has worked to "take away" or to undermine the continual mediatorial work of Christ. That is what the "daily" signifies in the book of Daniel.
[SIZE=+1]"And the place of his sanctuary was cast down"[/SIZE]
The word "place" in the King James Version of Daniel 8:11 is makon, the same word which is italicized in the following verses:
"Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever." Psalm 104:5.
"Justice and judgment are the habitation [or foundation] of thy throne." Psalm 89:14.
"Righteousness and judgment are the habitation [or foundation] of his throne." Psalm 97:2.
The word carries the meaning of "a basis" (Strong's Hebrew dictionary #4349).
The makon of His sanctuary refers to "the basis/foundation of God's sanctuary in heaven. Thus the horn's act involves an interference in the sense of making of no effect the 'foundation' or 'basis' (makon) of the heavenly sanctuary from which issue divine righteousness and justice. . . . In other words, the anti-God horn power attacks the very basis of the intercession of the heavenly sanctuary with its mediatorial and saving activities on behalf of the faithful." (Gerhard Hasel, Symposium on Daniel, Frank B. Holbrook, editor, Daniel and Revelation Committee Series, vol. 2, p. 414.)
Brethren take a look at transgression of desolation in Daniel 8:13 and link it to what JESUS CHRIST said in Mathew 24:15 also see how Mathew 24:15 links to Daniel 11:31 saying -And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate,see how it links to Mathew 24:15.
Thanks brethren for your kind reading,due to limited words for a post,please read part 4,God bless you all.
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Hello saints of the Most High, sorry for taking long time to post again,please can you all forgive me please.
We were talking on Daniel 8 gotten from Mathew 24:15,and how angel Gabriel interpreted the vision for Daniel.
Brethren lets look at Daniel 8:8-9 -And the he-goat magnified himself exceedingly; and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and instead of it there came up the appearance of four horns toward the four winds of heaven. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the beauteous land.And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and some of the host and of the stars it cast down to the ground, and trampled upon them.
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[TD]Brethren take a look at the he-goat,after the great horn was broken,there came four horns and out of one of the four horns,came forth a little horn,which shows that only one horn waxed exceedingly great out of the four .
Brethren please take a look at the host of heaven and stars.So what does the Host Of Heaven means:
The "host of heaven" has two basic meanings and the meaning is determined by the context of the passages used in Scripture. Both heavenly (celestial) bodies -- the sun, moon, stars and angels are referred to as the "host of heaven." These two meanings also often overlap when angels are sometimes also referred to as stars (Judges 5:20; Job 25:5; 38:7, Revelation 1:20.
So if the little horn shall cast down the host of heaven,it means it shall cast down the stars,moon,sun.So we will seat one day and see the stars falling down.
Daniel 8:11- From NIV-It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the Lord; it took away the daily sacrifice from the Lord, and his sanctuary was thrown down
Daniel 8:11-From KJV-Yea, it magnified itself, even to the prince of the host; and from him the continual burnt-offering was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
Brethren looking through the net and i saw this site www. patmospaper.com which talked about Daniel 8:11-[SIZE=+1]And it cast down some of the host and the stars to the ground[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]
[/SIZE] In its new religious sphere, the little horn is described as directing its activities against "the host of heaven." "Stars" in prophecy symbolize angels (Revelation 1:20; Job 38:7; Revelation 12:4). How could the little horn do anything against the inhabitants of heaven? Comparing Daniel 8:10, 11 with Revelation 13:6, it appears that the little horn works to undermine the redemptive work of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary, a work in which all heaven is engaged.
Verse 11 Text
[SIZE=+1]"Yea, he magnified himself"[/SIZE]
This verse is describing the activities of the little horn. We noticed above that the little horn in this chapter represents Rome in its two phases. Phase one occurred under the rule of the caesars and emperors. Phase two represents the rule of the Catholic bishops and popes. The transition to the second phase occurs in verse 10, where the little horn's activities enter the spiritual realm. Verse 11, therefore, portrays the activites of the Roman papacy.
[SIZE=+1]"Even to the prince of the host"[/SIZE]
These are the same Hebrew words translated "captain of the host" in Joshua 5:14, referring to the Son of God.
[SIZE=+1]"And from him the daily sacrifice was taken away"[/SIZE] (margin)
Notice that the word "sacrifice" is italicized in the Authorized Version, indicating that it is a supplied word and was not in the original. So the verse actually says, "from him the daily was taken away." What is the "daily" which was "taken away" from Jesus by the papacy?
The "daily" is mentioned five times in the book of Daniel (8:11, 12, 13; 11:31; 12:11). The Hebrew word is tamid. Tamid is found more than a hundred times in the Old Testament, either as an adjective or an adverb, and is usually translated "continual," "perpetual," "always," or "ever." It is used in connection with every aspect of the sanctuary service. In addition to describing the daily sacrifices (which evidently is what the King James translators had in mind), tamid is also used to describe each of these sanctuary functions.
So whereas the KJV makes it look like the verse is talking about sacrifices being affected by the little horn, the word "sacrifice" is not even in the original Hebrew. The original word is one often used in the Old Testament to describe all the functions of the sanctuary. For this reason, some commentators have suggested a translation such as "the perpetual service" or "continual mediation."
In other words, the little horn has worked to "take away" or to undermine the continual mediatorial work of Christ. That is what the "daily" signifies in the book of Daniel.
[SIZE=+1]"And the place of his sanctuary was cast down"[/SIZE]
The word "place" in the King James Version of Daniel 8:11 is makon, the same word which is italicized in the following verses:
"Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever." Psalm 104:5.
"Justice and judgment are the habitation [or foundation] of thy throne." Psalm 89:14.
"Righteousness and judgment are the habitation [or foundation] of his throne." Psalm 97:2.
The word carries the meaning of "a basis" (Strong's Hebrew dictionary #4349).
The makon of His sanctuary refers to "the basis/foundation of God's sanctuary in heaven. Thus the horn's act involves an interference in the sense of making of no effect the 'foundation' or 'basis' (makon) of the heavenly sanctuary from which issue divine righteousness and justice. . . . In other words, the anti-God horn power attacks the very basis of the intercession of the heavenly sanctuary with its mediatorial and saving activities on behalf of the faithful." (Gerhard Hasel, Symposium on Daniel, Frank B. Holbrook, editor, Daniel and Revelation Committee Series, vol. 2, p. 414.)
Brethren take a look at transgression of desolation in Daniel 8:13 and link it to what JESUS CHRIST said in Mathew 24:15 also see how Mathew 24:15 links to Daniel 11:31 saying -And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate,see how it links to Mathew 24:15.
Thanks brethren for your kind reading,due to limited words for a post,please read part 4,God bless you all.
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