British Soldier Murdered by Muslim Terrorists in London.

[HollyLoree]

You may find some peace yet, Stephen. God is good! And His promises are true! He doesn't give us more than we can bear.

 

[HollyLoree]

my book says we love people into the kingdom. not sure what your reading.
Luke 23:34

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

Prodigal, you're making very good points. It is easy to lump everyone together, and yes, we've got skin heads and the Westboro Baptists and even the Klu Klux Clan, and such groups obviously don't represent Christianity in American. (I sure hope not anyway.) Yes, we should always keep these things in mind.

 

[Quickfire]

@holly its the pople who are spreading the conspiracies that are to blame look at the war there causing here i mean they carnt wait to act and they did act befor they even had chance. it was only today that the family gave a live press confrence.

there is such things as human courts of rights and i always wonder if these consiricies are true because of the human courts of rights. because conspiricies like this cause war and thats why i have been patient when i saw the conspiracies on the net.

like the the lord says be patient and still and the truth will be revealed

 

[Quickfire]

i would just like to tell you about the live family press confrence that took place today in england as i feal some people reading this thread will not have seen it.

the family press conference that took place today started out with the wife giving a speech.
she started to give a speech and because she was so upset she coud not talk verry well so the father stepped in and said some words.
he started of with tellng us how brave his son was.
i could see the the sadness on the soilder wifes face as the father gave his memories of his son.

the father then told a funny story he had remembered about his son and half way through it i felt and herd his heart brake and in other parts of the story when the wife was upset she remembered them and and i saw joy in heart quickly come upon her. then she went back to to feeling sad.

this family is verry much in a state of greivence and they need all the prayers and comfort we can give them
please say a prayer for peace and comfort for the soilders family

 

[jkalyna]

Our Father be with this family bring healing to them, restoration, forgivness, peace, health and a new day, take the dark evil cloud and memories away in Jesus name. For Jesus did not shed his blood in vain, we stand in your presence within the holy of the HOly place in prayer, and agree Thank you Lord for surrounding this family with your love and put your hands upon them and heal them in Jesus name we pray. amen

 

[jkalyna]

Our Father be with this family bring healing to them, restoration, forgivness, peace, health and a new day, take the dark evil cloud and memories away in Jesus name. For Jesus did not shed his blood in vain, we stand in your presence within the holy of the HOly place in prayer, and agree Thank you Lord for surrounding this family with your love and put your hands upon them and heal them in Jesus name we pray. amen

Heal them Jesus we ask thee. Thank you for peace about this, amen

 

[Quickfire]

amen and thankyou jkalyna

 

[Miri]

Unfortunately zone it was real. It seems the men initially hit him with there car then jumped out to attack him. Then later dragged him into the road.
I suppose people do act weird in such situations. The event also took place opposite a primary school which had to go into lock down to protect the children from harm and from seeing any of this.

Bystanders later reported that the men were shouting none of the male bystanders could approach them or the soldier without being harmed. But they would let women do this. I think this is why the women went to see if there was anything they could do to help the soldier and to try to calm the
terrorist down.


Its awful to think about and I did wonder what I might av done if I had been there. Do you turn and run, do you worry about the soldier is he still alive.
Or do you wonder if there is anything you can do to prevent more people being harmed. I think the woman who went to see if the soldier was ok and tried to talk the terriorist down deserves a medal.

Its a sad sad world to see a person so completely under the influence of we evil and the destruction caused.

 

[Drett]

good luck to all of you.

you not only scoff at your own heresy stephen, you make light of everything else you have no clue about.

im going to take some time off.
im going to decide what is worth bothering with at this point.

i may or may not come back and do a complete, and thorough expose of the pentecostal movement, as well as all this other stuff.
of course, for the thoroughly deluded, itll just look like this:


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Hope you come back soon. A person who prizes the truth above all is hard to find.

 

[loveme1]

A strange incident indeed.

'divide and conquer'

The silent enemy advancing behind "terror"

 

[Graybeard]

=zone;1047286][SIZE=4][B]ARE YOU PEOPLE FOR REAL[/B][/SIZE]

....

let`s see.....

bystanders casually watching; arms folded, nicely sectioned off.
no terror at all....just another day apparently.

most of the people had no idea what actually happened and yes, Iv'e been to plenty accidents and people do tend to gather in a crowd, believe it or not most do keep a distance.

brave brownie pack leader with hands in pockets talks calmly to crazed hatchet-wielding south-african-with-british-accent muslim moments after savage beheading. she then goes to talk to second crazed cleaver wielding jihadist

South African?? you sure about that??..where did you get that information??
He had already established that women were not his targets..and yes, brave woman indeed...they do exist.

no blood around lamp-post.
later, there is blood around lamp post.

not sure where you saw that, but don't you think the guy could have grabbed/touched the lamp post at some time...huh?

women are allowed to comfort the dead man, who was beheaded, then was not beheaded.
other shots show women standing around, one kneeling over butchered man - just as causal as can be.

already covered that, he allowed woman to get close to him and the body..not men.

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“I was just on my way home after a trip to France. I was visiting my children in Plumstead and I had taken a 53 bus to get to Parliament Square where I was going to meet my children and walk to Victoria coach station before getting the coach to Helston in Cornwall.

“I was sitting on the lower deck and the bus stopped. I could clearly see a body in the road and a crashed car. I trained as a first aider when I was a Brownie leader, so I asked someone to watch my bag and then got off to see if I could help.

“I went over to the body where there was a lady sitting there and she said he was dead. She had comforted him by putting something under his back and a jacket over his head. I took his pulse and there was none. I couldn’t see the man’s face but I could see no evidence that suggested someone had tried to cut off his head. I could see nothing on him to suggest that he was a soldier.

“Then a black guy with a black hat and a revolver in one hand and a cleaver in the other came over. He was very excited and he told me not to get close to the body. I didn’t really feel anything. I was not scared because he was not drunk, he was not on drugs. He was normal. I could speak to him and he wanted to speak and that’s what we did.

“I spoke to him for more than five minutes. I asked him why he had done what he had done. He said he had killed the man because he [the victim] was a British soldier who killed Muslim women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was furious about the British army being over there.

“There was blood on the pavement by the car where the man on the ground had been hit by it.”At first there was no blood by the body but as I talked to the man it began to flow which worried me because blood needs a beating heart to flow. But I didn’t want to annoy the man by going back to the body.

Ingrid Loyau-KennettI asked him what he was going to do next because the police were going to arrive soon. He said it was a war and if the police were coming, he was going to kill them. I asked him if that was a reasonable thing to do but it was clear that he really wanted to do that. He talked about war but he did not talk about dying and then he left to speak to someone else.

“I went to speak to the other man who was quieter and more shy. I asked him if he wanted to give me what he was holding in his hand, which was a knife but I didn’t want to say that. He didn’t agree and I asked him: ‘Do you want to carry on?’ He said: ‘No, no, no.’ I didn’t want to upset him and then the other man came back to me. I asked him what he wanted to do next.

“At that point, there were so many people around that I didn’t want him to get scared or agitated. I kept talking to him to keep him occupied.

“Then I saw my bus was moving and I knew that the police would arrive very soon. I asked him if there was anything else I could do for him because my bus was about to leave and he said no.

“I got on the bus and, after 10 seconds, someone came on and told everyone to get down. I saw a police car pulling up and a police man and policewoman getting out. The two black men ran towards the car and the officers shot them in the legs, I think.

“When the shooting started, I was not scared. There was so many women screaming and crying on the bus, it took me a minute to calm them down. I didn’t have a moment to think of myself.

“I could see the man with the black hat on was badly hurt as he was being operated on but both were still moving.”The bus then started to move away. They dropped us in the middle of Lewisham which really annoyed me because I had no idea how to get from there to Parliament Square. “I am just happy that I managed to do something that might have prevented more trouble. I feel fine at the moment but I suppose the shock could hit me later.”

would like to see your source here.

 

[Graybeard]

So we are supposed to believe these two men gruesomely beheaded a random stranger in broad daylight and everyone around is calm as can be? And the only blood anywhere to be seen is in the victims hands and on the knife? There is no blood on the victims clothes, no blood on the street, nothing at all, despite the fact that these were supposedly very crude cuts and “gruesome hacking’. And who walks around with meat cleaver? And who in their right mind wants to be seen on as many cameras as possible after committing a horrific murder?

not so fast, look again at other footage, there are a few like the view from a news helicopter shows a mass of blood on the pavement next to the wall where they hacked him, you can also see blood marks from the pool of blood going toward the street when they dragged him, like you always say to others...DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

 

[loveme1]

You know it is not that we can prove either way on these events, but that we are starting to question our feed of news and events.

There was a time i would of took it all without any thought that such games are played at times by worldly authority to advance agenda's.

The problem is that they consider such questions ahead of time and plant much to dilute and discredit genuine concerns.

Trust in the Almighty GOD in all things and fear nothing but remain good and loving.

Proverbs 25

If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:22For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.

 

[SarahM777]

not so fast, look again at other footage, there are a few like the view from a news helicopter shows a mass of blood on the pavement next to the wall where they hacked him, you can also see blood marks from the pool of blood going toward the street when they dragged him, like you always say to others...DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

UMM The issue is why is there no blood in some of the footage yet in later footage you then have blood? That is the point that was being made. Go back and read what she said. She is pointing out the anomalies that should not be there if the footage was pure in the first place and the scene was not altered. (I hate unexplained anomalies)

 

[loveme1]

Consider that even the different footage could of been circulated... giving way for someone to explain them away and assure the people that come to hear of the doubts..

 

[Quickfire]

suerly what i posted about the the soilders loved ones family live press conference was enough
to show it wasnt a conspiricie

why re rope the argument back up ? i feel sick now and i just want to say a prayer for the family .

prodical can you please close this thread and with a prayer please

 

[prodigal]

It is a very sad state of affairs when a disaster strikes and instead of having sympathy and empathy, as we are told to as christians, People put there own agendas and theories first. Then to see that on a christian website. We are told very clearly not to bear false witness. so unless you have factual evidence to go along with your broadcasted opinions i ask you, does this law not apply to you. and if not this commandment then are any off the 10 commandments relevant. You may say we aren't under the law, so lets go thru them 1 by 1 and you tell me which ones its ok for a professing christian not to adhere to. Maybe murders ok, or what about false idols, maybe stealings is ok now.

Father God , i ask that you bring comfort to those who are hurting as a result of this incidence and also the pain that that this thread has caused to some. I ask father that you will teach us to live according to your spirit, being Christlike in our character, first seeking your will in all our actions. Thankyou Father for your love for us,help us to spread that love and by doing so leading the unsaved to the truth and knowledge of you. Lord bring the lost unto salvation,in Jesus name Amen

 

[jerusalem]

this was among the most reprehensible of acts. the villians responsible were so non-chalant afterwards as if they had no concept of what they had really done. we do not all worship the same God. that is why i often write our God. our God has taught us the only way to Him is through His Son. allah has no son and if he did it would not be one that we could follow. the teachings of allah oppose the teaching's of Christ. if you would investigate the teaching's of allah you would soon discover that he is a moon god of ancient times. the goal of islam is to convert the world to islam and to destroy those who will not convert. they openly refer to israel and the united states as satan and little satan and have vowed to destroy both as representative of christianity and judaism. they teach that lying is acceptable when talking to an infidel which to them is anyone not islamic so peace talks with them are a joke. we must not worship our God in their way. these people are being kept in darkness by their leaders. we must bring them the light of Jesus' love to dispel the darkness of their religion of hate. their fruits are the proof of who they really are and it does not match up to their peaceful claims. their own 'holy' book clearly states that judea belongs to the jews and that jerusalem is the holy city of the jews. meecca is their 'holy' city and when they pray their backsides face the dome of the rock and jerusalem a high insult in their own belief system. you tube has video that shows this. we cannot feast at the Lord's table and at the table of demon's too. we are christians. not christian hybrid's

 

[prodigal]

 

[Graybeard]

UMM The issue is why is there no blood in some of the footage yet in later footage you then have blood? That is the point that was being made. Go back and read what she said. She is pointing out the anomalies that should not be there if the footage was pure in the first place and the scene was not altered. (I hate unexplained anomalies)

Ummm...I already addressed that concern about the blood.....go back and read what she said and then what I said....totally plausible.