Jesus died for all. How is limiting salvation serving faith as you understand it?
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Jesus died for all. How is limiting salvation serving faith as you understand it?
I think, according to your question here, that you are jumping to contusions. Note I did not say conclusions.
That, is not a leap of faith. I really do not know what you are on about.
Need to watch very carefully or these idiomatic expressions and what they meant to the original audience.
It was an act by God that Lydia paid attention to what was being stated.. and she responded positively and became a believer.
Yes, those who have believed.
I am not sure how exactly mean this, but regeneration never precedes faith.
Belief/Faith is the condition/responsibility God requires of people to receive the gift.
It is a good faith offer, the gift of salvation, to all who hear the Gospel, otherwise Christ Jesus is a liar.
Yes, doesnt faith cometh by hearing Rom 10:17
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
and you spelt hearing wrong
That's correrct. It is false to say the Spirit of God regenerated and gives faith prior to salvation. False and a grave error that ignores Jesus and steps right over Him.
The Holy Spirit convicts of sin....He does not excuse it. Who died for sinners? I should let you know, that if you have not accepted Christ as the one who was crucified and rose again, then you are not saved.
Do you believe Christ died for you or not? This is a life and death question that you need to answer for your own sake.
Why arent all saved then ? Because the all is limited to only the saved. Do you contend Jesus died for them lost in their sins ?
He regenerates first then the regenerated one believes that Christ saved them
FWers say such things as everyone hears when Jesus let us know everyone does not hear.
But some rewrite the words of Jesus also to suit their heretical beliefs.
Having ears to hear is something they do not seem to understand.
I keep picturing a cartoon of the wolf approaching Little Red Riding Hood.
In this story though.
Little Red is surrounded by a legion of angels that the wolf can not see, but Little Red knows are there.
Unlike the Calvinist, I believe that we are free to accept or reject salvation. The Holy Spirit does present Christ, but He does not take the place of Christ nor does He save from sin.
Read scripture. The Holy Spirit CONVICTS of sin; He does not excuse it.
It is not limited atonement. That is your understanding which, you would not have, if you were not mistakenly convinced of the
non-scriptural ideas you have come to believe.
Well you keep saying that. Where is the scripture to reference what you say? I have not seen any scripture from you wherein
it shows what you say.
So, let's see the scripture.
I think I am finally tiring of this merry - go - round, what I am really taking note of is that those who do NOT adhere to TULIP are
individuals with individual unique ways and ideas to present the same truth.
TULIP adherents/proponents not so much, same probing questions over and over and same defense over and over.
And there is it once again... you do not agree, you have CDS!
Too true hear. I'm not familiar with all the dogam battle lingo. What is CDS that you seem to think I have?
Why did Christ command the gospel to be preached to every creature if no one can hear it?
Why does God command all men everywhere to repent if He has already decided on limiting how many do?
Why does God command all men everywhere to repent if He has already decided on limiting how many do?
I have seen two people converted on CC by another wolf years ago, that was a sad thing to see happen.
But I will say he was a staunch Calvinist and very forthright, no mind games.
I like the last picture you painted .. yes for those grounded in the truth of Christ Jesus.
Well you keep saying that. Where is the scripture to reference what you say? I have not seen any scripture from you wherein
it shows what you say.
So, let's see the scripture.
We require regeneration in order to be equipped to comprehend Bible doctrine.
The natural man can not comprehend Bible teachings that follow regeneration.
But, even the natural man can be shown, and know that God is real.
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men,
who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them,
because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities
—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been
made, so that they are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Romans 1:18-21
She was already an OT believer. That means she was declared righteous because of her faith, just like Abraham. But she can only receive those promises of salvation "In Christ" (Hebrews 11:39-40).
Acts 16:14 Now a certain woman named Lydia heard us. She was a seller of purple from the city of Thyatira, who worshiped God. The Lord opened her heart to heed the things spoken by Paul.
We see God's predestination at work, just like with Cornelius and His family, which were all 'God fearers'. This is providence.
Acts 10:2 (Cornelius) a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to God always.
Acts 10:5-6, 32 Now send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter. He is lodging with Simon, a tanner, whose house is by the sea. He will tell you what you must do.".......Send therefore to Joppa and call Simon here, whose surname is Peter. He is lodging in the house of Simon, a tanner, by the sea. When he comes, he will speak to you.'
Acts 11:12-18 Then the Spirit told me to go with them, doubting nothing. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered the man's house. And he told us how he had seen an angel standing in his house, who said to him, 'Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon whose surname is Peter, who will tell you words by which you and all your household will be saved.' And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning. Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, 'John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.' If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?" When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, "Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life."
Being born again is the result of believing the Gospel, I agree, but it is not the result of true OT believers when they believe. They were owed that Promise. They had to wait for it. We see that promise being delivered to whom it was owed in Acts. First, true OT believers those who already heard and belied the Gospel, like these in John 7:38-39. And those, like Lydia and Cornelius who had not yet heard the Gospel, but were true OT believers.
Dave
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