Can Catholics be saved?

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Praying to one makes one out to be a (false) god. Hence why Paul condemns praying to angels. There is only one mediator between man and God - God incarnate, Jesus Christ.
Jesus is mediator in obtaining the atonement!

1 tim 2:5-6
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

read the next verse

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

and verse 1

2 tim 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

anyone in the communion of saints can pray and make intercession!

James 5:16
...The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

none more holy than Mary and the saints in glory!

rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Hebrews 12:1-3
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses...
the saints are not dead!

God of the Living!

Matthew 22:32
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Jn 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

thks
 
all Catholics are born again, most as infants.

thks
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
 
Faith, I follow Jesus Christ and HIM ONLY

I keep the same days as Christ, the same Commandments --- the same Torah
It is the FEW that follow Christ and are His, I am of the few and not of the MANY that Christ does not know!
Him alone?

mt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Lk 10:16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.

according to your proud boast you despise Jesus Christ?

that's a question not an accusation

thks
 
100 percent???

Catholic dogma!
91. The Son of God became man in order to redeem men.
92. Fallen man cannot redeem himself.
93. The God-Man Jesus Christ is a High Priest.
94. Christ offered Himself on the Cross as a true and proper sacrifice.
95. Christ by His Sacrifice on the Cross has ransomed us and reconciled us with God.
96. Christ did not die for the predestined only.
97. Christ’s Atonement does not extend to the fallen angels.
98. Christ, through His Passion and Death, merited reward from God.
99. After His Death, Christ’s soul, which was separated from His Body, descended into the
underworld.
100. On the third day after His Death Christ rose gloriously from the dead.
101. Christ ascended Body and Soul into Heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father.

Satan is a master of mixing truth with his lies
I do not agree with many of your list like 101
 
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Nobody cares about your worthless politics.
There doesn't need to be a revolt and there doesn't need to be a 'catholic' church, just a congregation of people who appreciate the Word of God. That is the true church, and we're assembled by our faith whether we're in a building or not.
what is the word of God and how do you know?

thks
 
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
Adding these verses because I love God’s word and how He shows us pictures of what real repentance is. It’s not man made rules and requirements or based on our own righteousness. God is good!!
And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’ I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
— Luke 18:9-14
 
this is exactly why I want zero to do with Rome.
cos I demand my own covenant, my own religion, my own church, my own beliefs according to my personal private judgement!

1 Peter 5:5
...for God resisteth the proud, and giveth graceto the humble.

the very definition of REBELLION!

I will not obey or submit to Christ and His authentic ministers in His apostolic church!

thks
 
cos I demand my own covenant, my own religion, my own church, my own beliefs according to my personal private judgement!

1 Peter 5:5
...for God resisteth the proud, and giveth graceto the humble.

the very definition of REBELLION!

I will not obey or submit to Christ and His authentic ministers in His apostolic church!

thks


Christ would not have picked the fellows you folks have as priests ---

under threat of death I would not will not obey --- your church or your priest or your pope

I wonder why there is no mention of the 300 ? popes, not even one and Christ told the 12 they will each rule a tribe of Israel and David will be king --

but no mention of even one pope, maybe they will clean out stables

Sorry, I know what is coming from Rome -- it will destroy the world and then Christ will destroy it for ever.
 
Praying to one makes one out to be a (false) god. Hence why Paul condemns praying to angels. There is only one mediator between man and God - God incarnate, Jesus Christ.
that is itself a misunderstanding we pray to God thru the intercession of the angels and saints!

anyone in the communion of saints can pray and intercede for one another 1 tim 2:1

Christ is the only mediator on the level of redemption and atonement not supplications

1 tim 2:5-6
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1 tim 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

prayer is connected to the sacrifice of Christ!

rev 5:6-8

6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

James 5:16 ...The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

How much more the holy saints in glory!

Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation.

thks
 
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
infants can't be sanctified? how about unborn babies?

thks
 
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
where is this n scripture?

thks
 
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
By the grace of justification received by faith and baptism we have union with God thru Christ, in the communion of saints, empowered by grace and life in the spirit to attain to eternal salvation on glory!

1) we do not have eternal salvation

Mk 10:30 mk 13:13 mt 24:13 rev 2:10

2) we have the grace of justification

3) grace can be increased by good works

mt 7:7 mt 7:14 mt 26:41
2 pet 3:18

4) grace can be lost by deadly sin

Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1-4
gal 5:19-21
gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20
2 cor 4:7
1 tim 5:12
rev 21:8
rev 21:27
rom 8:1

thks
 
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
even born again christians can reject Christ or faith

we born again by the spirit alone?
Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

scripture says water and the spirit?

thks
 
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
Ez36:25-27

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Rom 5:5
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

1 cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

thks
 
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
who administers this spirit only new birth?

thks
 
There are no requirements in scripture to baptize infants in order to make them born again. They are infants so they clearly can’t understand what sinful life they are leaving behind to proclaim Christ as Lord and Savior and become washed of their sins and be reborn in the spirit. When children grow up and are at the age of accountability, knowing they are sinners and needing forgiveness of sins then they are free to come to repent and free to accept the gift of salvation for themselves. When a believer comes to faith in Christ they receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism is an outwardly sign of our coming to faith in Christ Jesus. We are not born again because our parents had us baptized. My friend was baptized Catholic and he is not a believer in Christ.
Infant Baptism!
Acts 2:38-39 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Promise is to you’re children! Vs 39

This promise made in ez 36
A promise from God is a sacred oath, and a sacred oath is a sacrament!

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.

Acts 16:15 entire household baptized! Does not say adults only or except infants!

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness.

(It does not say adults only or except infants!)
(Scripture does not say anywhere “do not baptized infants”)

Baptism is the Christian initiation sacrament of the new covenant for all men. Matt 28:19 Jn 1:29 Jn 3:16

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (It does not say except infants!) (but it does say “all”)!

Lk 1:10-11 all people including infants

Thee faith is required for adult baptism.
Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

If it’s not possible (as in the case of infants) it’s not required.

But the promise of the parents to raise and educate the child in the faith is required, then the child is confirmed in thee faith at the age of reason.

Repentance is required for adult baptism. Acts 2:38

If there is no personal sin to repent of (as in the case of infants) then it’s not required.

For two thousand years the church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles has always baptized infants!

Acts 1:8
Witness of Augustine!

It is this one Spirit who makes it possible for an infant to be regenerated . . . when that INFANT is brought to baptism; and it is through this one Spirit that the infant so presented is reborn. For it is not written, "Unless a man be born again by the will of his parents" or "by the faith of those presenting him or ministering to him," but, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit." The water, therefore, manifesting exteriorly the sacrament of grace, and the Spirit effecting interiorly the benefit of grace, both regenerate in one Christ that man who was generated in Adam (Letters 98:2 [A.D. 408]).

“The sacrament of baptism is most assuredly the sacrament of regeneration” (ibid., 2:27:43).

“Baptism washes away all, absolutely all, our sins, whether of deed, word, or thought, whether sins original or added, whether knowingly or unknowingly contracted” (Against Two Letters of the Pelagians 3:3:5 [A.D. 420]).

“This is the meaning of the great sacrament of baptism, which is celebrated among us: all who attain to this grace die thereby to sin—as he himself [Jesus] is said to have died to sin because he died in the flesh (that is, ‘in the likeness of sin’)—and they are thereby alive by being reborn in the baptismal font, just as he rose again from the sepulcher. This is the case no matter what the age of the body. For whether it be a newborn infant or a decrepit old man—since no one should be barred from baptism—just so, there is no one who does not die to sin in baptism. Infants die to original sin only; adults, to all those sins which they have added, through their evil living, to the burden they brought with them at birth” (Handbook on Faith, Hope, and Love 13[41] [A.D. 421]).

thks
 
all Catholics are born again, most as infants.

thks

Well, baptism does not save a person. We are to be baptized as adults in order to show we identify with Jesus. It is symbolic. It represents His death, immersion, and the resurrection...coming up out of the water. We are sayig we are dead to ourselves but alive in Christ.

Faith in Jesus, believing that he was crucified for us, on our behalf, so that our sins would be forgiven if we believe, is salvation. Salvation is through faith in the only begotten Son of God and nothing we can do of ourselves can obtain salvation.

I was baptized as a child in the Lutheran church, but when I acccepted Christ, I asked to be baptized in the church my family was now attending. An infant does not know what is going on. They are not cognizant of sin or the possibility of forgiveness through Christ of that sin.

I understand Catholicism very well. I was brought up where Catholicism was the norm and my dad was Catholic but when he came to understand salvation from a biblical perspective, he accepted Jesus and was then baptized.
 
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Faith, I follow Jesus Christ and HIM ONLY

I keep the same days as Christ, the same Commandments --- the same Torah
It is the FEW that follow Christ and are His, I am of the few and not of the MANY that Christ does not know!

So you do not adhere to anything past the gospels, with the possible exception of Acts?
 
MOB, are we on the same side on this one?

The Catholic Church is a wicked organization. And only fools defend such trash.

I don't think being rude to Catholics is very helpful. Does it make you a better Christian? Don't think so. I don't agree with Catholicism, but calling Catholics fools is not going to help.

but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, I Peter 3:15