This is Watchtower theology. You do not get this definition of death from scripture.
Can deity die?
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This is Watchtower theology. You do not get this definition of death from scripture.
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Psa 115:17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.
Psa 115:18 But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD.
Psa 115:18 But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD.
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2Thewaters
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pagan satan theology says when you die you dont really die but become like gods, a spirit
that is catholic pagan theology
Most churches teach it
that is catholic pagan theology
Most churches teach it
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2Thewaters
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Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Read your bible
it will tell you
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Read your bible
it will tell you
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John 11:20 Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat still in the house.
John 11:21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
John 11:22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee.
John 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
John 11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
John 11:21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
John 11:22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee.
John 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
John 11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
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Jesus ought to know
seriously, the pagan church always taught we have immortal souls this is unscriptural
we are dust and return to the dust
only God is immortal
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seriously, the pagan church always taught we have immortal souls this is unscriptural
we are dust and return to the dust
only God is immortal
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2Thewaters
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We need to say
yes Lord
we come out of babylon
out of confusion
out of satan stories telling us we are immortal
this is non scriptural as is all satan s doctrined
the pagan church EVERY DOCTRINE is a lie
they dont have a single doctrine that is Biblical they all are lies every one
we need to read our bibles
they mind controlled us for 1200 years, time to leave error and read the word
Dont go to any watchtowers whatever they are
even a broken clock is right twice a day.
yes Lord
we come out of babylon
out of confusion
out of satan stories telling us we are immortal
this is non scriptural as is all satan s doctrined
the pagan church EVERY DOCTRINE is a lie
they dont have a single doctrine that is Biblical they all are lies every one
we need to read our bibles
they mind controlled us for 1200 years, time to leave error and read the word
Dont go to any watchtowers whatever they are
even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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1 Tim 6:15 Which in his times he shall show, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1 Tim 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
we learn every day
yes Jesus
we believe
help our unbelief as all our false doctrines are shattered.
1 Tim 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
we learn every day
yes Jesus
we believe
help our unbelief as all our false doctrines are shattered.
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, our doctrine for the church, the body of Christ.
being put to death in the flesh, he was quickened by the Spirit. Five.
To the word and to the testimony. Subject is the doctrine of hypostatic union.
being put to death in the flesh, he was quickened by the Spirit. Five.
To the word and to the testimony. Subject is the doctrine of hypostatic union.
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Not a J.W.by any stretch but...
Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Well, laugh me an explanation of this...
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Satan taught that the soul was immortal, God said they would die. Who you gonna believe?
That is quite an accurate description of the body in the state of death. When the soul is separated from the body, The body has no faculty for thought. It is dead and returns to the earth. It is the soul of man, the inner man that possess the capacity of thought and consciousness. When it separates from the body, the body dies and the soul is then resigned to the ᾅδην - the unseen.
Thessalonians speaks of spirit, soul and body. I know we all know this. Genesis states God breathed into man and he became a "living soul". When we see progressive revelation about the afterlife, we cannot or should not reach for Scripture from behind and apply it to the new creature God says He is currently forming. With that, what Paul reveals is the standard. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, there's good reason for this truth if you know & understand who we are in the household of God.
John, present means present right, present with the Lord.
John, present means present right, present with the Lord.
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This is kind of confusing 
I don't understand what doctrine ur talking of the trinity, oneness, Mormon, or Jehovah belief?
Anyway God is inconceivable and infinite for a reason, we as men could never explain Him, w/o lowering Him to our human minds in some way.
This part of doctrine isn't all that important as we want to make it. Do u believe God is omniscient? Do u believe Jesus died on th cross for ur sins? Do u believe th Holy Spirit lives w/in th saints? If yes is th response to these, I would say it's ok to be in fellowship and such w/ the church. Deity is just another thing that Satan uses to divide th saints... Honestly when I hear debates on this is makes me laugh bcuz it's lik,"ur both proving th same point just with different vocab!" Lol.
I advise reading scripture about this and hearing a variety of opinions, but keep in mind God is infinite, otherwise u will totally get lost, confused and questionable. Confusion is of th devil, God promises peace and sound mind, so when frustration and confusion comes abot stop always at that point. I recommend praying for guidance on what to do next, when u encounter this and trust God to show u what u need to know.
Answers:
1. I want give my opinion because I want u to learn th answer for urself w/ th help of th Spirit
2. It's ok to associate with and be apart of that church
I don't understand what doctrine ur talking of the trinity, oneness, Mormon, or Jehovah belief?
Anyway God is inconceivable and infinite for a reason, we as men could never explain Him, w/o lowering Him to our human minds in some way.
This part of doctrine isn't all that important as we want to make it. Do u believe God is omniscient? Do u believe Jesus died on th cross for ur sins? Do u believe th Holy Spirit lives w/in th saints? If yes is th response to these, I would say it's ok to be in fellowship and such w/ the church. Deity is just another thing that Satan uses to divide th saints... Honestly when I hear debates on this is makes me laugh bcuz it's lik,"ur both proving th same point just with different vocab!" Lol.
I advise reading scripture about this and hearing a variety of opinions, but keep in mind God is infinite, otherwise u will totally get lost, confused and questionable. Confusion is of th devil, God promises peace and sound mind, so when frustration and confusion comes abot stop always at that point. I recommend praying for guidance on what to do next, when u encounter this and trust God to show u what u need to know.
Answers:
1. I want give my opinion because I want u to learn th answer for urself w/ th help of th Spirit
2. It's ok to associate with and be apart of that church
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Greetings, ladies and gentleman!
@LovePink
You say strange things, girl! First off, I'm going to share this link: If God created everything, who created God?
Next, I'm going to copy and paste a post I made on another website and transfer a part of that post to here.
If we would believe that a designer created everything we know and more, we should also believe that science, time, and the laws of physics wouldn't exist before the designer created them. This would mean that the divine creator is outside the influence of our scientific method, and so we cannot directly prove it's existence using science related study, for this creator would be outside of the authority of science and the laws of physics.
Now, if this designer designed everything, who designed that designer? Since this creator designed time itself, it would be outside the authority of time, and so it would not be affected by time. If this designer isn't affected by time, then it wouldn't age or decay.
And to add to this copy and pasted post: If this designer doesn't age or decay, then it will never die. Hence why God must be eternal. Hence, why our divine creator shall never die.
Are you satisfied, LovePink?
@LovePink
You say strange things, girl! First off, I'm going to share this link: If God created everything, who created God?
Next, I'm going to copy and paste a post I made on another website and transfer a part of that post to here.
If we would believe that a designer created everything we know and more, we should also believe that science, time, and the laws of physics wouldn't exist before the designer created them. This would mean that the divine creator is outside the influence of our scientific method, and so we cannot directly prove it's existence using science related study, for this creator would be outside of the authority of science and the laws of physics.
Now, if this designer designed everything, who designed that designer? Since this creator designed time itself, it would be outside the authority of time, and so it would not be affected by time. If this designer isn't affected by time, then it wouldn't age or decay.
And to add to this copy and pasted post: If this designer doesn't age or decay, then it will never die. Hence why God must be eternal. Hence, why our divine creator shall never die.
Are you satisfied, LovePink?