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can some non-Christians go to Heaven? Do all angels sin including Michael and Gabriel?
God says yes! In Matthew 25:32-46 and Romans 2:12-16, 1st Timothy 4:9-11, Romans 3:23 answers why and how and that we are commanded to teach it. I will get to why it is important to understand that all angels sin. If we love God, and he commanded us to teach this, then we should obey and teach it.
For now I have to start out telling that the greatest gift of all is love. 1st Corinthians 13:13. If you get doctrine wrong, but you have love you will get a bigger reward.
On judgement day Jesus (not God) will judge gentiles by what they know and not what they don't know.
If you go to way of the master website you click on a 10 commandment test. It says if you have ever told a lie you are a liar and then satan tricks him and his friends to jump to the new testament so they don't have to say "have you ever killed someone, then you are a murderer. If they had just stuck with all the old testament ten commandments or only what Jesus said about them, then they would have seen that a liar loves to lie and a murderer loves the violence Revelation 22:15 and Psalm 11:5
God's standard to be sent to Hell is not all who sin go, only those who love and practice sin go to hell. All sin so all need a savior, someone to pay the price for their sin and Jesus did that. 1st Timothy 4:9-10 You do what you love, if you love God you do good deeds, and if you love sin you do evil deeds. Sin separates us from God like in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were never headed toward hell and they never thought so.
To the meek and humble God gives Grace and Hope. God's loving actions of comfort and promise to make it all better gave them hope so that they told the story to their children and then they passed it on. Adam and Eve met God's standard to receive his love. They were not proud of their sin, but there was one other in the garden, that sinned and he did not feel bad about his sin like Adam and Eve.
The evil and wicked love their sin. Adam and Eve wanted to be saved from sin and trusted God's promise that he would make it happen. Satan had pride in what he had done and loved his sin. God gives grace to the humble. Matthew 3:5&8
All the verses that say God will judge are correct, as in God judged Israel through judges, prophets, angels and other nations. Great news, on judgement day God will judge all people and angels through Jesus. No one can say Jesus, you don't know what it's like and how painful life is. He knows! That being said is this scripture wrong? John 1:3, please understand this, all things were made by God through Jesus and all creations will be judged by God through Jesus.
On judgement day Jesus will divide all gentiles into sheep and goats per Matthew 25:31-46 & Romans 2:12-16. Jesus will look at the intent of their hearts and the fact that they all sin won't even be an issue.
If you think I'm taking these bible verses out of context then let's use God's example of who he will give mercy too and who he will condemn to hell because of the love of sin. Did he send satan and the other fallen angels to hell when they tried to take over Heaven? Did he cast Adam and Eve to hell when they sinned? No, he didn't. Romans 3:23 (people and angels)
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgement unto the son. Now, if you agree that God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ then we can proceed.
Christians are saved, set apart and a chosen people. They have (humbly) accepted Jesus as their Savior and received something never before in all of creation the indwelling Holy Spirit guaranteeing Heaven 2 Corinthians 1:22 and Ephesians 1:14
If you still don't understand that all angels sin & how important that is and they need a Savior too understand God made everything perfect and that means angels and people have free will. God did not make us robots, what makes his love so special is we have to choose love.
Some say we are born sinners going to hell and that's wrong. God made angels perfect and they all sin because they have freedom of choice. If that's hard to understand think of it this way, the only ones who will sin are created beings those who aren't created can't sin.
The angels Michael and Gabriel sin but they have not been cast out of Heaven. If you disagree with that then you are saying God did not create them. The angels who remain in Heaven with God have faith that he knows what is best and satan does not have faith in God. The angels who choose the path of faith in God get to stay in Heaven even though they will sin.
After Adam and Eve sinned, God created people through childbirth. God created angels and they were perfect and they sinned. God created Adam and Eve perfect and they sinned. God creating us through childbirth is no different than creating Adam and Eve, we all have free will through both creations. This is the reason babies and children don't go to hell. Deuteronomy2:39, Isiah 7:15, Proverbs 12:28 and James 1:14 &15, God makes us all with the ability to choose our path. All people and angels can't choose to never sin because only those who were never created can't sin, but at a point in life people and angels can choose which path they want to go.
Like Adam and Eve whey they were tempted, their own desires brought forth sin but their sin did not bring forth death(hell). Adam and Eve hated their sin and chose the path of hope in God.
Satan and all evil people and angels who love to sin choose the path of wickedness. Example: one who loves to lie will practice it and be good at it and become a liar and liars go to hell. Not all who kill are murderers. A person or angel who struggles with sin is lifting up God because they're admitting to themselves that sin is bad. Evil and wicked people and angels love sin and embrace it. Romans 7:14-25
Why am I writing this paper? To proclaim how merciful God really is. God gives mercy to all who humbly ask for mercy. He gave mercy to a non-jew through the prophet Elijah, he showed mercy to a roman soldier and healed his child and when a demon asked for mercy, Jesus gave it.
God could've sent us all to hell and started all over again if sin was the deciding factor. It's the intent of the heart.
God wants all to become Christians, but that is impossible because of where we are born and when. Some countries weren't even discovered back in Jesus's day. Ephesians 2:8&9 For it's by the grace of God that you are born in a place and a time to become a Christian. By Grace you get the indwelling Holy Spirit on earth and become a Christian. All others will stand before Jesus and be divided into sheep and goats. The sheep will receive the Holy Spirit and get eternal life in Heaven, and the goats will be cast into hell and this will occur on the day when God will judge the hearts of men through Jesus on judgement day.
The Holy Spirit is called the comforter. The Gospel should comfort, the truth will eight set you free or harden your heart, but our job is to tell the world how great God's love is and what he did through Jesus.
If I met a person dying on the side of the road from a car wreck and he told me he wasn't a Christian and he was worried about his sins, I would tell him that after he dies he will see Jesus who knows what he went through and will judge him fairly and so be of good cheer, because he is love and mercy. If you hate sin and feel bad you are the type person he will invite into Heaven. To all out there who say you have to be a Christian to go to Heaven, the scriptures say differently.
You can't convert everyone to Christianity because of situations, but you can give them hope like Jesus gave the humble thief on the cross. He couldn't make him into a Christian because the indwelling Holy Spirit had not come yet, but he comforted him and gave him hope that he would be with him in paradise.
God is good. How good? How Holy? All the stuff about forgiveness and mercy he tells us to give to others, he does and more. He is the example of love and mercy to all who asks and are humble and meek. Sin does not equal hell, sin equals punishment. Loving sin equals hell.
My favorite example is Moses. God was going to kill him because of a sin and another of his sins punishment was for him not to enter the promised land, but he was never ever bound for hell, he was always headed to the ultimate promised land.
I'm very frustrated that many preachers claim Moses was a murderer, Moses killed a man who was beating a fellow jew. Exodus 2:11&12. Moses killed him, he did not murder him. I would've done the same thing if I was in Moses's shoes. Any police officer or soldier or even someone who kills someone to protect their family is not a murderer and you wouldn't call them one would you? Someone who commits suicide has killed themselves, not committed murder.
Moses was the most humble person of his time. Numbers 12:3 and God never called him a murderer. Moses defended the man's life and God is proud of anyone who defend's another's life. Murder is in your heart and it wasn't in the heart of Moses.
There are plenty of churches that do a lot of good that God is pleased with, but if those churches teach that God and Jesus are more about wrath than mercy then they need to repent.
When you read the book of Revelation did you notice that the first thing God did was tell the churches to repent not the unsaved. He spoke of what good they did but that if they did not change he would take away their lampstand (aka church building) Telling others how wonderful God's love and mercy is should be our first love.
God says yes! In Matthew 25:32-46 and Romans 2:12-16, 1st Timothy 4:9-11, Romans 3:23 answers why and how and that we are commanded to teach it. I will get to why it is important to understand that all angels sin. If we love God, and he commanded us to teach this, then we should obey and teach it.
For now I have to start out telling that the greatest gift of all is love. 1st Corinthians 13:13. If you get doctrine wrong, but you have love you will get a bigger reward.
On judgement day Jesus (not God) will judge gentiles by what they know and not what they don't know.
If you go to way of the master website you click on a 10 commandment test. It says if you have ever told a lie you are a liar and then satan tricks him and his friends to jump to the new testament so they don't have to say "have you ever killed someone, then you are a murderer. If they had just stuck with all the old testament ten commandments or only what Jesus said about them, then they would have seen that a liar loves to lie and a murderer loves the violence Revelation 22:15 and Psalm 11:5
God's standard to be sent to Hell is not all who sin go, only those who love and practice sin go to hell. All sin so all need a savior, someone to pay the price for their sin and Jesus did that. 1st Timothy 4:9-10 You do what you love, if you love God you do good deeds, and if you love sin you do evil deeds. Sin separates us from God like in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were never headed toward hell and they never thought so.
To the meek and humble God gives Grace and Hope. God's loving actions of comfort and promise to make it all better gave them hope so that they told the story to their children and then they passed it on. Adam and Eve met God's standard to receive his love. They were not proud of their sin, but there was one other in the garden, that sinned and he did not feel bad about his sin like Adam and Eve.
The evil and wicked love their sin. Adam and Eve wanted to be saved from sin and trusted God's promise that he would make it happen. Satan had pride in what he had done and loved his sin. God gives grace to the humble. Matthew 3:5&8
All the verses that say God will judge are correct, as in God judged Israel through judges, prophets, angels and other nations. Great news, on judgement day God will judge all people and angels through Jesus. No one can say Jesus, you don't know what it's like and how painful life is. He knows! That being said is this scripture wrong? John 1:3, please understand this, all things were made by God through Jesus and all creations will be judged by God through Jesus.
On judgement day Jesus will divide all gentiles into sheep and goats per Matthew 25:31-46 & Romans 2:12-16. Jesus will look at the intent of their hearts and the fact that they all sin won't even be an issue.
If you think I'm taking these bible verses out of context then let's use God's example of who he will give mercy too and who he will condemn to hell because of the love of sin. Did he send satan and the other fallen angels to hell when they tried to take over Heaven? Did he cast Adam and Eve to hell when they sinned? No, he didn't. Romans 3:23 (people and angels)
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgement unto the son. Now, if you agree that God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ then we can proceed.
Christians are saved, set apart and a chosen people. They have (humbly) accepted Jesus as their Savior and received something never before in all of creation the indwelling Holy Spirit guaranteeing Heaven 2 Corinthians 1:22 and Ephesians 1:14
If you still don't understand that all angels sin & how important that is and they need a Savior too understand God made everything perfect and that means angels and people have free will. God did not make us robots, what makes his love so special is we have to choose love.
Some say we are born sinners going to hell and that's wrong. God made angels perfect and they all sin because they have freedom of choice. If that's hard to understand think of it this way, the only ones who will sin are created beings those who aren't created can't sin.
The angels Michael and Gabriel sin but they have not been cast out of Heaven. If you disagree with that then you are saying God did not create them. The angels who remain in Heaven with God have faith that he knows what is best and satan does not have faith in God. The angels who choose the path of faith in God get to stay in Heaven even though they will sin.
After Adam and Eve sinned, God created people through childbirth. God created angels and they were perfect and they sinned. God created Adam and Eve perfect and they sinned. God creating us through childbirth is no different than creating Adam and Eve, we all have free will through both creations. This is the reason babies and children don't go to hell. Deuteronomy2:39, Isiah 7:15, Proverbs 12:28 and James 1:14 &15, God makes us all with the ability to choose our path. All people and angels can't choose to never sin because only those who were never created can't sin, but at a point in life people and angels can choose which path they want to go.
Like Adam and Eve whey they were tempted, their own desires brought forth sin but their sin did not bring forth death(hell). Adam and Eve hated their sin and chose the path of hope in God.
Satan and all evil people and angels who love to sin choose the path of wickedness. Example: one who loves to lie will practice it and be good at it and become a liar and liars go to hell. Not all who kill are murderers. A person or angel who struggles with sin is lifting up God because they're admitting to themselves that sin is bad. Evil and wicked people and angels love sin and embrace it. Romans 7:14-25
Why am I writing this paper? To proclaim how merciful God really is. God gives mercy to all who humbly ask for mercy. He gave mercy to a non-jew through the prophet Elijah, he showed mercy to a roman soldier and healed his child and when a demon asked for mercy, Jesus gave it.
God could've sent us all to hell and started all over again if sin was the deciding factor. It's the intent of the heart.
God wants all to become Christians, but that is impossible because of where we are born and when. Some countries weren't even discovered back in Jesus's day. Ephesians 2:8&9 For it's by the grace of God that you are born in a place and a time to become a Christian. By Grace you get the indwelling Holy Spirit on earth and become a Christian. All others will stand before Jesus and be divided into sheep and goats. The sheep will receive the Holy Spirit and get eternal life in Heaven, and the goats will be cast into hell and this will occur on the day when God will judge the hearts of men through Jesus on judgement day.
The Holy Spirit is called the comforter. The Gospel should comfort, the truth will eight set you free or harden your heart, but our job is to tell the world how great God's love is and what he did through Jesus.
If I met a person dying on the side of the road from a car wreck and he told me he wasn't a Christian and he was worried about his sins, I would tell him that after he dies he will see Jesus who knows what he went through and will judge him fairly and so be of good cheer, because he is love and mercy. If you hate sin and feel bad you are the type person he will invite into Heaven. To all out there who say you have to be a Christian to go to Heaven, the scriptures say differently.
You can't convert everyone to Christianity because of situations, but you can give them hope like Jesus gave the humble thief on the cross. He couldn't make him into a Christian because the indwelling Holy Spirit had not come yet, but he comforted him and gave him hope that he would be with him in paradise.
God is good. How good? How Holy? All the stuff about forgiveness and mercy he tells us to give to others, he does and more. He is the example of love and mercy to all who asks and are humble and meek. Sin does not equal hell, sin equals punishment. Loving sin equals hell.
My favorite example is Moses. God was going to kill him because of a sin and another of his sins punishment was for him not to enter the promised land, but he was never ever bound for hell, he was always headed to the ultimate promised land.
I'm very frustrated that many preachers claim Moses was a murderer, Moses killed a man who was beating a fellow jew. Exodus 2:11&12. Moses killed him, he did not murder him. I would've done the same thing if I was in Moses's shoes. Any police officer or soldier or even someone who kills someone to protect their family is not a murderer and you wouldn't call them one would you? Someone who commits suicide has killed themselves, not committed murder.
Moses was the most humble person of his time. Numbers 12:3 and God never called him a murderer. Moses defended the man's life and God is proud of anyone who defend's another's life. Murder is in your heart and it wasn't in the heart of Moses.
There are plenty of churches that do a lot of good that God is pleased with, but if those churches teach that God and Jesus are more about wrath than mercy then they need to repent.
When you read the book of Revelation did you notice that the first thing God did was tell the churches to repent not the unsaved. He spoke of what good they did but that if they did not change he would take away their lampstand (aka church building) Telling others how wonderful God's love and mercy is should be our first love.