Can someone lose their salvation?

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i never once said God told me that the Throne of David is in England, That is something that i know is True, not something that God has told me is True, but i will be sure to ask Him when the next time He talks with me (yes i am being serious). Jesus is sitting on the Spiritual Throne of David, this is True, but the physical Throne of David is still on the Earth. For more information about the physical Throne of David being in England please click HERE.

"but i will be sure to ask Him when the next time He talks with me"

:rolleyes:
Did you have a chance to ask yet?

What did your g-d say?

word-for-word if you would
 
never once said God told me that the Throne of David is in England, That is something that i know is True, not something that God has told me is True, but i will be sure to ask Him when the next time He talks with me (yes i am being serious). Jesus is sitting on the Spiritual Throne of David, this is True, but the physical Throne of David is still on the Earth. For more information about the physical Throne of David being in England please click HERE.


Reread acts 2...there is an end times delusion and i believe
part of it is this teaching you teach.
 
"but i will be sure to ask Him when the next time He talks with me"

:rolleyes:
Did you have a chance to ask yet?

What did your g-d say?

word-for-word if you would

Please re-read what i said above, i will ask Him when He talks with me. i know not when He will start talking with me, Usually when He does it startles me. For example, when i was 16 driving home from work. i heard in the back seat "David" i almost jumped out of my skin. i looked back to see nobody was there, and knew it was the Lord. i said " i am here" He told me to turn left at the next gravel road. so i did when it came up. 20 minutes later driving on this gravel road in the middle of nowhere i started to have doubts. maybe i was hearing things, i am tired i have school tomorrow this is the opposite direction of my home, it is around 11 pm, i need to go home and get some sleep, what am i doing out here? i decided i was going to turn around the next driveway that i seen. when i came upon a bridge, there was a girl sitting on the bridge, i can tell she was crying. i pulled over and tried to talk with her, she was going to kill herself, apparently her boyfriend and 4 of his friends all raped her, and she was going to kill herself. i tried to do what i always did since 8 years old and talk about God and the Bible, this was a mistake, she got terribly upset with me, yelling at me to leave her alone, she yelled That God allowed this to happen to her and she didn't want to hear anything about God at all. So i was standing there dumbfounded, if i could not talk about God what could i say, that is when i was startled by His voice again "Tell her to join the military" So i approached her and told her "i think you need to join the military, and get away from all this" She told me that was the stupidest thing that she had ever heard, and asked me to leave again. i told her, well that i what she needed to do, and that i was not going to leave her without dropping her off somewhere because i didn't want her death on my conscience, she sat there and cried for another what seemed to me eternity, but then she said "fine, lets go" We drove for another half an hour, me lost to no end where i was at, dropped her off and watched her go inside. i left and that is the last i seen of her ever. two years later i joined the Air Force myself. 3 or 4 years after the incident with girl on the Bridge i get a call one day, it was her on the phone, she said she has been looking for me for many years and that she wanted to thank me for her life, apparently she joined the military the very next day, she is now married with a small child and pregnant with another to a wonderful Christian man who was also in the military with her, and they loved each other dearly and that she wanted to thank me for saving her life. i immediately told her, you are thanking the wrong person, you need to be thanking God, she said she does everyday but felt compelled to tell me thank you. i said don't thank me, God told me to tell you to join the military, it was not me, nor was it from me, i merely repeated what He told me to tell you, i have had conversations with God and He is the one who told me, please thank Him. She thanked me anyway and that is the last i heard from her. This is one of many examples of God speaking with me to do or to say things to others. Other times we would have conversations, and whatsoever question i would ask Him, He would tell me the answer.
So i do not call Him to speak to me, He has always talked with me. i have not heard his voice since 1994 (seriously, i am crying now
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) touchy subject, i don't know why He has not spoken to me since then, and Truthfully it is killing me inside, i don't know why not, why He stopped? It is my hope that He will again someday, but the not knowing why, well it is eating at me, did i do something wrong? Is He done with me? Did i learn all that He has to tell me? Is that not more He wants to say to me? Does he know i want to hear His voice again? Anyways sorry about that, i get real emotional concerning Him not speaking with me any more like He did for years before 1994. Maybe that is my testing of the Faith.

So the next time (i hope) that He speaks with me, i have many other questions to ask Him. The great thing is, like then, i don't have to remember all that i wanted to ask Him, when He starts talking with me, He seem to already know all the questions that i wanted to ask Him without ever asking them. He would merely start answering them for me.

^i^
 
never once said God told me that the Throne of David is in England, That is something that i know is True, not something that God has told me is True, but i will be sure to ask Him when the next time He talks with me (yes i am being serious). Jesus is sitting on the Spiritual Throne of David, this is True, but the physical Throne of David is still on the Earth. For more information about the physical Throne of David being in England please click HERE.


Reread acts 2...there is an end times delusion and i believe
part of it is this teaching you teach.


The end time delusion are things that are contrary to the Word of God, Have i said anything at all contrary to the word of God?

You are entitled to believe as you will, but i have not failed to tell you what He has told me. NOT TALKING about the Throne of David, but everything else.

^i^
 
"but i will be sure to ask Him when the next time He talks with me"

:rolleyes:
Did you have a chance to ask yet?

What did your g-d say?

word-for-word if you would

There is no shame in your condemnation of others, lord marianna.
 
The end time delusion are things that are contrary to the Word of God, Have i said anything at all contrary to the word of God?

You are entitled to believe as you will, but i have not failed to tell you what He has told me. NOT TALKING about the Throne of David, but everything else.

^i^

David...please be fair here. Not everyone comes into the forums claiming to have had
personal conversations with the Creator of the world then teach very incorrect doctrine
on the same page.

I dont want to just wrangle with you. Not everything you say is wrong. Some of it is right ok?

But you cant come into a room making any claims that will get you special treatment.. ok?

All the body of Christ are special individually and this room is for discussion.
 
There is no shame in your condemnation of others, lord marianna.

Tell me, have you read his papers that he is offering?

Is Davids throne in britain? does it matter?

Does God learn? and not know the future?

Do we read and learn from gnostic gospels?

I can make a new thread for this if its necessary.

But id suggest if you havnt done your homework
maybe stop fending till youve examined the doctrine
 
Tell me, have you read his papers that he is offering?

Is Davids throne in britain? does it matter?

Does God learn? and not know the future?

Do we read and learn from gnostic gospels?

I can make a new thread for this if its necessary.

But id suggest if you havnt done your homework
maybe stop fending till youve examined the doctrine

He is cable of fending himself. My purpoe is not to protect him from onslaugh.

But this is true,

But why not look at the judgement being in play here. Do we not have but one Lord who is Judge of the heart? Have we been giving the role of Lord? Nay I say. We are but workers of the harvest. Let God be God and let us be ligts into the world.
 
He is cable of fending himself. My purpoe is not to protect him from onslaugh.

But this is true,

But why not look at the judgement being in play here. Do we not have but one Lord who is Judge of the heart? Have we been giving the role of Lord? Nay I say. We are but workers of the harvest. Let God be God and let us be ligts into the world.
Oh how religious suddenly.

Is it idolatry to believe in another jesus?
One whose 'descendants' are keeping the throne of david warm in London?

Please Google Christian Identity, as you did with Charismatic.

Then come back and defend the Synagogue of Satan
 
Oh how religious suddenly.

Is it idolatry to believe in another jesus?
One whose 'descendants' are keeping the throne of david warm in London?

Please Google Christian Identity, as you did with Charismatic.

Then come back and defend the Synagogue of Satan
nothing put sarcasm comes from your mouth little lord.
 
David...please be fair here. Not everyone comes into the forums claiming to have had
personal conversations with the Creator of the world then teach very incorrect doctrine
on the same page.

Please would you be so kind as to tell me, and everyone can be a witness to it, what incorrect doctrine i have taught. Now i know full well that what i have taught, you personally disagree with, because it is not your belief. But please show me Scriptures that contradict what i teach so that i may be able to change it, and not teach such incorrect doctrines. Would you help me there, or will you merely accuse me of teaching incorrect doctrine, yet do not reveal that incorrect doctrine that i may correct it, if indeed it is in need of correction. If then you can show me Scriptures that contradict what i teach, i will be more then happy to concede, and correct the website, and start teaching the Truth as you see it, if indeed as you see it, is Scriptural. Please help me in this, if you are going to accuse me of teaching incorrect doctrines, it seems to me that Godly thing to do would be to tell me what that doctrine is. Oh, please do not say as an excuse. i have told you already. i am so sorry, i am forgetful, i seriously do not remember you telling what incorrect doctrine the you believe i was teaching, please be patient with me, and tell me again what incorrect doctrine that i have taught. Thank you in advance, for helping me with this issue.

I dont want to just wrangle with you. Not everything you say is wrong. Some of it is right ok?

i likewise do not wish to wrangle with anyone at all. and i would love to take credit for some of the things that i have said that are considered right in your eyes. But that would be deceiving if i were to do that. i should give credit where credit is due, and that is to God, If then God told me something, and i merely repeat what He has told me, how then can i accept someone saying to me "YOU are right" i'm not right, but He who told me these things is right. Not me. i am so unworthy to be called as He has called me into His service, that i don't even capitalize myself when i refer to myself as "i" Because Truly i am nothing without Him, i am filthy rags, not fit to walk this planet, i have spent most of my life running from God, not to Him, but running from my calling. about a year and half ago, i stopped running. i belong to Him, i only do those things that pleases Him, i have died, the old me is gone, the me that would love to commit sin, the old me that lived in sin, making excuses for them, so that i could continue to live in them and still think i was Heaven bound, deceiving myself. i am not worthy to be a prophet, but i am what He has made me.

But you cant come into a room making any claims that will get you special treatment.. ok?

is that what you have been thinking, that i come into these rooms expecting special treatment? This is not the Truth. i am nobody at all, least among all of you i am sure, but what i know, is that what He told me is the Truth, i teach what He has told me. Yes i understand that many deem me to be self righteous, or arrogant and the such. i KNOW that what He told me is the Truth, and i would stake my life on it in a heartbeat. Now because i KNOW what He has told me is the Truth, when people disagree, they do not disagree with me, they disagree with Him who told me these things, and He is God. This makes me to look high minded, arrogant, self righteous, piety, conceited, and the such. i know what i know and i can't help what i know. If God told you tonight that a comet was going to hit Denver Colorado, and you tried to tell people that a comet is going to hit Denver, they would all ask, how do you know that. When you tell them that God told you, see how fast someone will think that you think you are special because God speaks to you, just because you answered them Truthfully how you know what you know.

All the body of Christ are special individually and this room is for discussion.

i was unaware that i thought otherwise? i concur with you, everyone is special, they are the body of Christ, each having its own purpose in that Body, and i also agree that these rooms are for discussions.

^i^
 
Remember what Christ said, that He knows His sheep and they hear His voice, and follow Him. None are lost, nor shall be taken out of His hand. The only one who has lost salvation is Satan, and you are not Satan. Christ knows our tribulations and temptations while we occupy these flesh bodies here on earth, which is why we are to be forgiven up to 490 times a day if need be. He knows your struggles and understands. Remember this as well, that passed sins that are forgiven are wiped from the slate, the only one who ever brings them up again will be you.
 
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Can someone lose their salvation?

Evidently. Many passages point to this. Here's one to consider...


And you, who once were estranged and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds,
he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and irreproachable before him, provided that you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which has been preached to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.
Col 1:21-23


Maintaining one's salvation to the end appears quite conditional, actually.

That popular "once saved, always saved" gospel is not in the bible.
 
Re:



Evidently. Many passages point to this. Here's one to consider...


And you, who once were estranged and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds,
he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and irreproachable before him, provided that you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which has been preached to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.
Col 1:21-23


Maintaining one's salvation to the end appears quite conditional, actually.

That popular "once saved, always saved" gospel is not in the bible.

Ver. 23. εἴ γε with the indicative expresses the Apostle's confidence that the condition will be fulfilled.-ἐπιμένετε. This abiding in faith is the only, as it is the sure way, to this presentation of themselves κατ. αὐτ. This is directed against the false teachers' assurance that the gospel they had heard needed to be supplemented if they wished to attain salvation. It needs no supplementing, and it is at the peril of salvation that they lose hold of it. -Expositors Greek N.T.

Stressing the importance of holding fast to the (sufficiency of) GOSPEL not our faith.
 
Losing your salvation is easy, the only thing you have to do es ask for tithes from the members of the church, and what you effective doing is trying to revive the laws of moses,,, wich en efect will make you to deny the blood of jesus which will make you an anticrist.

You be stealing from the members of the church and taking the name of GOD in vain.

And you will love money so much that it will be your Idol. But, you will be really rich and have a nice an easy life, you even can found churces and franchise of churches..... enjoy your money!
 
Losing your salvation is easy, the only thing you have to do es ask for tithes from the members of the church, and what you effective doing is trying to revive the laws of moses,,, wich en efect will make you to deny the blood of jesus which will make you an anticrist.

You be stealing from the members of the church and taking the name of GOD in vain.

And you will love money so much that it will be your Idol. But, you will be really rich and have a nice an easy life, you even can found churces and franchise of churches..... enjoy your money!
 
The list of sins in Galatians 5: 19-21 shows you can lose your faith. One can be sober, find Jesus, become an alcoholic, and turn away from Christ. Therefore losing their salvation.
 
The list of sins in Galatians 5: 19-21 shows you can lose your faith. One can be sober, find Jesus, become an alcoholic, and turn away from Christ. Therefore losing their salvation.

Oh So Christ did not die for that sin.. If that true, No alcoholic could ever get to heaven, they could never be forgiven.

Paul is speaking to people who continually do those things, It is their way of life which has never stopped.

Funny you should ignore another quote from paul who speaks of the same thing.


1 cor 6:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[SUP][a][/SUP] nor sodomites, [SUP]10 [/SUP]nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

It does not say they stopped those sins, and that made them holy, It says they were washed, Set apart. and declaired innocent of those sins
 
here is a warning from God..
2 Peter 2:20-22
.20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”