Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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I have met people from "reformed" churches they were lovely until their system was questioned.. then a different person emerged.
Some people say, "Well I must be right because everyone is against my doctrine, look it is right here in black and white in scripture."
other say "Hmm, why all the backlash and they investigate further, learn and by the prompting of Gods Spirit leave."
The latter is rare, most double and triple down, but in the end some became angry people, that is my experience, you cannot hold that
view of God without personal consequence.
Some people say, "Well I must be right because everyone is against my doctrine, look it is right here in black and white in scripture."
other say "Hmm, why all the backlash and they investigate further, learn and by the prompting of Gods Spirit leave."
The latter is rare, most double and triple down, but in the end some became angry people, that is my experience, you cannot hold that
view of God without personal consequence.
Did you read this part of the reporting guidelines?
In all seriousness, might I suggest you head off to the threads you said you find friendlier? Go through some other Biblical Discussion threads. What you're finding to be so offensive is mild in comparison to the general tone of this part of the forum. I wish it weren't, but as you've said my will isn't free to affect others (or something like that). Nor does it seem God's will is free in this respect. His kids can be quite nasty. Maybe He's letting their free will work and has always known what He'd have to put up with for a time in order to have what He freely wills in the end.
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In all seriousness, might I suggest you head off to the threads you said you find friendlier? Go through some other Biblical Discussion threads. What you're finding to be so offensive is mild in comparison to the general tone of this part of the forum. I wish it weren't, but as you've said my will isn't free to affect others (or something like that). Nor does it seem God's will is free in this respect. His kids can be quite nasty. Maybe He's letting their free will work and has always known what He'd have to put up with for a time in order to have what He freely wills in the end.
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Expecting delusional people to behave in a rational or sane manner may be asking a bit much, keep in mind. GWH is touted to being a pretty nice guy but I can only suppose that is by people who have not had him come against them with his repeated lies, misrepresentations, and false accusations... lies for which he then expects YOU to seek peace with him over. That is my experience with him, and in the midst of him claiming I should be seeking peace with him after he told a slew of lies about me and what I believe, he then repeated some of his lies. You never see all these people who claim to love peaceful interactions speaking up when such reprehensible behaviour is on display from one of their buddies. Nope. Silence rules the day, and they will continue to support their friends even when they say the most ridiculous things about what Scripture teaches.