Can you lose the Holy Spirit?

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I was just doing a study on the word 'seal' and was going to do a thread but I might as well post my info here since it does pertain to the topic.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed [or having believed] ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise.

2 Co. 1:21,22 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

I am going to just stay with the definition of 'seal' as a verb since that is how the word is used in the above verses. I found an exhaustive list of definitions at AudioEnglish.com and I may comment on a few so as not to have a mile long post!: 1) close with or as if with a seal 2) make tight; secure against leakage 3) decide irrevocably 4) affix a seal to 5) cover with varnish 6) hunt seals

I would like to look at specifically - 'decide irrevocably' - It was God's decision to 'seal' those that were his with holy Spirit. This definition is really neat because it says to 'decide irrevocably' - the decision is irrevocable - meaning that the decision for God to seal his people with holy Spirit cannot be retracted or revoked. Maybe that's what it means in 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin because he is born of God. That holy Spirit is 'sealed' closed up within us - it is sealed against leakage LOL; nothing can get out and nothing can get in!

Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology [BibleStudyTools.com] "A seal, in biblical times as today, is used to guarantee or indicate ownership. Ancient seals were often made of wax, embedded with the personalized imprint of their guarantor." . . . . "The significance of the act of sealing is dependent on the importance of the one doing the sealing." . . . "The Holy Spirit 'seals' those who trust in Christ. The Spirit's presence is God's guarantee that believers are owned by him and secure in him." . . . . "A believer is a secure member of God's family, NOT because he or she is "holding on", but because the Spirit is applying the promises about Christ." "His sealing merely comprises the initial down payment that anticipates the future, full redemption of God's 'marked possession'."

"personalized imprint of their guarantor" - hmmm - so I looked up guarantor - A guarantor is he who makes a guaranty - a person or entity that agrees to be responsible for another's debt or performance under a contract, if the other fails to pay or perform. Now God has sealed us with holy Spirit - God is responsible for our salvation, our being sealed even if we fail to perform. And then look - "The significance of the act of sealing is dependent on the importance of the one doing the sealing." God does the sealing and He is of utmost importance so the significance of our being sealed with holy spirit is stupendouse! We are God's 'marked possession' - marked or sealed by holy Spirit!

Vine's Concise Dictionary of the Bible - definition d) ownership and security together with destination . . . conveyed in Eph. 1:13 in the metaphor of "sealing" of believers by the gift of holy Spirit upon believing (i.e. at the time of their regeneration, not after a lapse of time in their spiritual life, "having also believed" not as KJV "after that ye believed"; the aorist participle marks the definiteness and completeness of the act of faith) The idea of destination is stressed by the phrase "the holy Spirit of promise" (also v14) so Eph. 4:30 "ye were sealed unto the day of redemption"; so in 2 Cor. 1:22 where the middle voice intimates the special interest of the Sealer in His act.

That seal will remain unbroken until the day of redemption - Eph. 4:30 This was a pretty interesting word study - I enjoyed it and hope it will bring edification.
 
prove-all, to me, it makes sense this verse, for when someone loose his salvation, and go back in sinning , the demons can enter the man, and become worst than how he / se was,, but I don't think a Christian can get demonized..... I seriously doubt it..
 
peacefulbeliever, nice study!!, my questions is when do we get this seal??

At salvation?
At baptism?
or At Baptism in the Holy Spirit?

Thanks and God Bless you
 
tono77 said:
peacefulbeliever, nice study!!, my questions is when do we get this seal??

At salvation?
At baptism?
or At Baptism in the Holy Spirit?

Thanks and God Bless you
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Thank you tono and God bless you!

After we hear the word, have put our trust in Jesus Christ, in whom we believed - we are sealed with the Holy Spirit. [Eph. 1:13]

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. [Romans 10:9]

Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of Holy Spirit. [Acts 2:38]

Scripture tells you specifically when you were sealed in Ephesians 1:13.
 
ok I kind of wonder about this, one, because Ephesians 1:13 says once we heard the gospel, and believed, we were sealed, with the Holy Spirit. however, many in the Book of acts, some didn't even know about the Holy Spirit,

Acts 19:
1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7And all the men were about twelve.
 
I don't believe we lose the Holy Spirit.

What I believe is that when we sin, or fall away we grieve the Holy Spirit and that the Holy Spirit will continue to work in us to bring us back to repentance and to the Lord.

Some however will refuse that guidance.
 
tono77 said:
ok I kind of wonder about this, one, because Ephesians 1:13 says once we heard the gospel, and believed, we were sealed, with the Holy Spirit. however, many in the Book of acts, some didn't even know about the Holy Spirit,

Acts 19:
1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7And all the men were about twelve.
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They hadn't been taught regarding the Holy Spirit. Paul laying his hands on them did not give them the Holy Spirit but by laying hands on them, Paul received revelation as to why they had not received; then I am sure that Paul spent some time expounding the subject of holy Spirit to them. I know the scripture doesn't go into this but the Bible would be a very big book if every single event and explanation of said event was written within. If Ephesians - says we receive once we hear the gospel, and believe then we are sealed - then another scripture cannot contradict that.
 
tono77 said:
ok I kind of wonder about this, one, because Ephesians 1:13 says once we heard the gospel, and believed, we were sealed, with the Holy Spirit. however, many in the Book of acts, some didn't even know about the Holy Spirit,

Acts 19:
1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7And all the men were about twelve.
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That is because he also said....
Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
 
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