Cant Buy or Sell, how will they implement it?

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Well we had a eye opening enforcement during the Covid19 spread. During the COVID-19 "zero-Covid" lockdowns in China , residents in cities like Wuhan, Xi'an, and Guiyang were put under severe restrictions that prevented them from buying food, medicine, and necessities, or selling goods. During the COVID-19 pandemic, China implemented a nationwide system of color-coded health apps on citizens' mobile phones to control movement and restrict any purchase or selling by the person or persons. These systems functioned as a digital "good citizen certificate" which determined whether an individual could buy goods, use transportation, or enter buildings, so it was a complete social enforcement. Here is some background..

"Wang Yu, hailed by the U.S. as an International Woman of Courage, has already been arrested, imprisoned and harassed by the Chinese Communist Party for her work as a human rights lawyer representing activists, Uyghur scholars and Falun Gong practitioners. Now, her movements within her home country have been restricted by a color-coded app on her phone that’s supposed to protect people from COVID-19.

The app and its color codes have become ubiquitous in China as the country has struggled to contain the coronavirus, pushing the public to a breaking point that resulted in protests over COVID restrictions late last month. The government announced last week that it would discontinue the national color-coded health app, but cities and provinces have their own versions, which have been more dominant. In Beijing last week, restaurants, offices, hotels and gyms were still requiring approved color codes to enter.

Drawing on telecommunications network data and PCR test results, the app is relatively simple. Everyone is assigned a QR code on their phone that switches between green, yellow and red, depending on factors such as whether they’ve been in the same spot as someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 (yellow) or if they themselves have tested positive (red). Only people with green codes can go about normal daily life."

 
Mathew 6:25 “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes?

Matthew 6:31
So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

This inability to buy and sell will test our faith. When the mark of the beast is imposed, will we truly believe God will provide for us and refuse the mark?

That's why we need to build up our faith now in Christ to endure.

We need Holy Spirit strength to say "no" to the mark and the same powerful faith to believe God will provide for us.

And eventually, be strong enough to be martyred resisting allegiance to the antichrist.

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I do not believe anyone can choose to either take the mark or refuse it. God hasn't left His children up to that task. It's Him who saves, not us. If you look at 2 Thessalonians, which speaks of the coming son of perdition (god of this world), you'll notice in verse 10 that there are those that perish "because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved". That's the comforter, the Holy Spirit. You received it when you believed, "ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise". The Holy Spirit is "truth".

All that aren't saved will worship the beast. God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

In verse 14, again the Lord speaks of receiving the comforter, "obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ". He said, "I will come to you" in John. He came to me in 2015, 45 years after I was baptized in water.

2 Thessalonians 2
King James Version
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
 
I do not believe anyone can choose to either take the mark or refuse it. God hasn't left His children up to that task. It's Him who saves, not us. If you look at 2 Thessalonians, which speaks of the coming son of perdition (god of this world), you'll notice in verse 10 that there are those that perish "because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved". That's the comforter, the Holy Spirit. You received it when you believed, "ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise". The Holy Spirit is "truth".

All that aren't saved will worship the beast. God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

In verse 14, again the Lord speaks of receiving the comforter, "obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ". He said, "I will come to you" in John. He came to me in 2015, 45 years after I was baptized in water.

2 Thessalonians 2
King James Version
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.


I'm not sure what you mean about whether we don't get to choose to take the mark or refuse it?

Can you elaborate? I know God will strengthen His people not to take the mark.


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I'm not sure what you mean about whether we don't get to choose to take the mark or refuse it?

Can you elaborate? I know God will strengthen His people not to take the mark.


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It's not going to be a choice. If you have been born again, you won't be deceived. If you haven't, God will send you strong delusion to believe a lie. That's what God says. 2 Thessalonians 2 couldn't be any clearer concerning the coming of the Lord and our gathering together unto Him. That explains "all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him....." No choice involved, God does it.

Revelation 13:8​

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean about whether we don't get to choose to take the mark or refuse it?

Can you elaborate? I know God will strengthen His people not to take the mark.


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God won't ever forsake His children. As Matthew 24 says, "if it were possible".

Matthew 24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
 
I don't know how it will look in it's final diabolical form, but I know the first step is eliminating physical money.
When I travel, many places now are refusing to take cash, and the 'cashless society' seems to be the 'latest craze'....
 
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Oh my is that really an issue
How can I gain victory over the ego
Or as Paul puts it
The flesh
That's what's important
Buy and sell until your heart's content
But that's a misnomer
The heart really needs something more
I hope I'm not being too heavenly
 
When I travel, many places now are refusing to take cash, and the 'cashless society' seems to be the 'latest craze'....
In the First Testament God always gave his people the opportunity to repent before He sent calamity. The righteous will also take the time to prepare.
 
It's not going to be a choice. If you have been born again, you won't be deceived. If you haven't, God will send you strong delusion to believe a lie. That's what God says. 2 Thessalonians 2 couldn't be any clearer concerning the coming of the Lord and our gathering together unto Him. That explains "all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him....." No choice involved, God does it.

Revelation 13:8​

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


I understand now what you mean! Thanks!


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Well we had a eye opening enforcement during the Covid19 spread. During the COVID-19 "zero-Covid" lockdowns in China , residents in cities like Wuhan, Xi'an, and Guiyang were put under severe restrictions that prevented them from buying food, medicine, and necessities, or selling goods. During the COVID-19 pandemic, China implemented a nationwide system of color-coded health apps on citizens' mobile phones to control movement and restrict any purchase or selling by the person or persons. These systems functioned as a digital "good citizen certificate" which determined whether an individual could buy goods, use transportation, or enter buildings, so it was a complete social enforcement. Here is some background..

"Wang Yu, hailed by the U.S. as an International Woman of Courage, has already been arrested, imprisoned and harassed by the Chinese Communist Party for her work as a human rights lawyer representing activists, Uyghur scholars and Falun Gong practitioners. Now, her movements within her home country have been restricted by a color-coded app on her phone that’s supposed to protect people from COVID-19.

The app and its color codes have become ubiquitous in China as the country has struggled to contain the coronavirus, pushing the public to a breaking point that resulted in protests over COVID restrictions late last month. The government announced last week that it would discontinue the national color-coded health app, but cities and provinces have their own versions, which have been more dominant. In Beijing last week, restaurants, offices, hotels and gyms were still requiring approved color codes to enter.

Drawing on telecommunications network data and PCR test results, the app is relatively simple. Everyone is assigned a QR code on their phone that switches between green, yellow and red, depending on factors such as whether they’ve been in the same spot as someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 (yellow) or if they themselves have tested positive (red). Only people with green codes can go about normal daily life."

Given: it is going to happen somehow because the Bible says it will happen.

Given: people are always trying to guess how a prophecy will happen, and they are never, ever, ever right. We spent centuries trying to figure out how the nation of Israel would metaphorically reform, because nobody seriously believed that it would actually become a literal physical nation again. Then one day we woke up and there it was! So any theories about this are probably wrong too. Maybe not definitely wrong, but almost certainly wrong.

Given: there's nothing I can do to speed it up or slow it down. Like the old hemphills song says, you can't rush it / you can't stop it. It might be a very exciting time for christians. It might be very uncomfortable. But there's nothing I can do about it.

Resolved: there's no use worrying about it. I might as well do something else instead.