Cant Buy or Sell, how will they implement it?

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Gods Word tells us there will come a time where one will not be able to "buy or sell" if they refuse to receive the "Mark of the Beast" and will be forbidden from participating in the economy, unable to buy food or necessities. Basically a social and economic shutdown aimed at coercing loyalty to this antichrist entity.

Revelation 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Well we had a eye opening enforcement during the Covid19 spread. During the COVID-19 "zero-Covid" lockdowns in China , residents in cities like Wuhan, Xi'an, and Guiyang were put under severe restrictions that prevented them from buying food, medicine, and necessities, or selling goods. During the COVID-19 pandemic, China implemented a nationwide system of color-coded health apps on citizens' mobile phones to control movement and restrict any purchase or selling by the person or persons. These systems functioned as a digital "good citizen certificate" which determined whether an individual could buy goods, use transportation, or enter buildings, so it was a complete social enforcement. Here is some background..

"Wang Yu, hailed by the U.S. as an International Woman of Courage, has already been arrested, imprisoned and harassed by the Chinese Communist Party for her work as a human rights lawyer representing activists, Uyghur scholars and Falun Gong practitioners. Now, her movements within her home country have been restricted by a color-coded app on her phone that’s supposed to protect people from COVID-19.

The app and its color codes have become ubiquitous in China as the country has struggled to contain the coronavirus, pushing the public to a breaking point that resulted in protests over COVID restrictions late last month. The government announced last week that it would discontinue the national color-coded health app, but cities and provinces have their own versions, which have been more dominant. In Beijing last week, restaurants, offices, hotels and gyms were still requiring approved color codes to enter.

Drawing on telecommunications network data and PCR test results, the app is relatively simple. Everyone is assigned a QR code on their phone that switches between green, yellow and red, depending on factors such as whether they’ve been in the same spot as someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 (yellow) or if they themselves have tested positive (red). Only people with green codes can go about normal daily life."

 
The beast kingdom is in the future.

The mark of the beast is the antichrist's solution to have peace on earth the best they can.

It is people's effort to have peace not believing in a personal God.

So the mark has to do with people's technology and devices.

GPS devices use microchips to function, but they are not the same as the "microchips" used for pet identification (RFID tags).

A GPS receiver requires a microchip to calculate location via satellite signals, whereas pet identification chips have no battery, cannot track, and only provide an ID number when scanned.

Microchips can be charged by body heat through thermoelectric technology, which converts the temperature difference between the body and the surrounding environment into electrical power.

RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) chip can be powered by body heat, but it requires a specialized thermoelectric generator to convert that thermal energy into electricity, rather than using the heat directly.

Active GPS tracking devices contain lithium, typically in the form of lithium-ion or lithium-polymer batteries.

These batteries are essential for powering the GPS module and transmitting data over cellular networks.

Pet microchips (used for identification) do not contain lithium, as they have no batteries and are passive devices activated only by a scanner.

An implanted device leaking lithium is a medical emergency that can cause severe tissue damage, chemical burns, and significant health risks due to the caustic electrolyte fluid.

The Global Positioning System (GPS) runs on a network of at least 24 (currently 31) active satellites orbiting Earth, owned and operated by the U.S. Space Force.

The system uses atomic clocks and radio signals for trilateration to provide location and time information to receivers.

They say GPS with an implant under the skin is not very effective now but it could be in the future.

Which the mark of the beast is over 3.5 years away.

GPS- can track, know the exact location and time of a person, lithium in a device,

An RFID cannot track, and only provide an ID number when scanned, contains no lithium.

GPS is the best choice for keeping track of people to reduce crime.

Rev 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

God will cause the device that they trusted to prevent crime and to have peace to break open causing damage to the area.

Making the GPS tracking system seem more realistic.

United Nations Agenda 21 for the 21st century which is a sustainability act.

They want to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people are the police force.

They want to give the people a microchip under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They can watch the people, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under something and since it is given to a person it is stuck under their skin.

The New Age Christ's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind but their technology can help them to deter crime, and have peace.

The antichrist is of the new age which is of the occult and the occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers which they believe will give them more power through nature.

6 is the number of a person, or the soul of a person, so the antichrist has the number 666, a triple 6, which he believes will give him more power to evolve to be spiritual, and establish his kingdom.

666 is the number that exalts people in the occult.

They want to convince the world if they embrace the number 666 they will have the power to evolve, and transform the world.
 
The beast kingdom is in the future.

The mark of the beast is the antichrist's solution to have peace on earth the best they can.

It is people's effort to have peace not believing in a personal God.

So the mark has to do with people's technology and devices.

GPS devices use microchips to function, but they are not the same as the "microchips" used for pet identification (RFID tags).

A GPS receiver requires a microchip to calculate location via satellite signals, whereas pet identification chips have no battery, cannot track, and only provide an ID number when scanned.

Microchips can be charged by body heat through thermoelectric technology, which converts the temperature difference between the body and the surrounding environment into electrical power.

RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) chip can be powered by body heat, but it requires a specialized thermoelectric generator to convert that thermal energy into electricity, rather than using the heat directly.

Active GPS tracking devices contain lithium, typically in the form of lithium-ion or lithium-polymer batteries.

These batteries are essential for powering the GPS module and transmitting data over cellular networks.

Pet microchips (used for identification) do not contain lithium, as they have no batteries and are passive devices activated only by a scanner.

An implanted device leaking lithium is a medical emergency that can cause severe tissue damage, chemical burns, and significant health risks due to the caustic electrolyte fluid.

The Global Positioning System (GPS) runs on a network of at least 24 (currently 31) active satellites orbiting Earth, owned and operated by the U.S. Space Force.

The system uses atomic clocks and radio signals for trilateration to provide location and time information to receivers.

They say GPS with an implant under the skin is not very effective now but it could be in the future.

Which the mark of the beast is over 3.5 years away.

GPS- can track, know the exact location and time of a person, lithium in a device,

An RFID cannot track, and only provide an ID number when scanned, contains no lithium.

GPS is the best choice for keeping track of people to reduce crime.

Rev 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

God will cause the device that they trusted to prevent crime and to have peace to break open causing damage to the area.

Making the GPS tracking system seem more realistic.

United Nations Agenda 21 for the 21st century which is a sustainability act.

They want to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people are the police force.

They want to give the people a microchip under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They can watch the people, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under something and since it is given to a person it is stuck under their skin.

The New Age Christ's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind but their technology can help them to deter crime, and have peace.

The antichrist is of the new age which is of the occult and the occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers which they believe will give them more power through nature.

6 is the number of a person, or the soul of a person, so the antichrist has the number 666, a triple 6, which he believes will give him more power to evolve to be spiritual, and establish his kingdom.

666 is the number that exalts people in the occult.

They want to convince the world if they embrace the number 666 they will have the power to evolve, and transform the world.

So he is not a person with a name?
 
I think the mark goes to loyalty/worship to the little horn that has eyes of a man that speaks great blasphemy. It is such a serious thing to avoid that an angel of the Lord will go around the world warning that anybody who takes the mark is going to be sent to eternal damnation. So it is something more than a QR code. We can see from the scripture that it states it will be a capitalist economy, and something that is physically on a man or woman, not anything like a phone that one can just use and discard. I think it is a ways off, but every Christian will know what it is during the tribulation.
 
The beast kingdom is in the future.

The mark of the beast is the antichrist's solution to have peace on earth the best they can.

It is people's effort to have peace not believing in a personal God.

So the mark has to do with people's technology and devices.

GPS devices use microchips to function, but they are not the same as the "microchips" used for pet identification (RFID tags).

A GPS receiver requires a microchip to calculate location via satellite signals, whereas pet identification chips have no battery, cannot track, and only provide an ID number when scanned.

Microchips can be charged by body heat through thermoelectric technology, which converts the temperature difference between the body and the surrounding environment into electrical power.

RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) chip can be powered by body heat, but it requires a specialized thermoelectric generator to convert that thermal energy into electricity, rather than using the heat directly.

Active GPS tracking devices contain lithium, typically in the form of lithium-ion or lithium-polymer batteries.

These batteries are essential for powering the GPS module and transmitting data over cellular networks.

Pet microchips (used for identification) do not contain lithium, as they have no batteries and are passive devices activated only by a scanner.

An implanted device leaking lithium is a medical emergency that can cause severe tissue damage, chemical burns, and significant health risks due to the caustic electrolyte fluid.

The Global Positioning System (GPS) runs on a network of at least 24 (currently 31) active satellites orbiting Earth, owned and operated by the U.S. Space Force.

The system uses atomic clocks and radio signals for trilateration to provide location and time information to receivers.

They say GPS with an implant under the skin is not very effective now but it could be in the future.

Which the mark of the beast is over 3.5 years away.

GPS- can track, know the exact location and time of a person, lithium in a device,

An RFID cannot track, and only provide an ID number when scanned, contains no lithium.

GPS is the best choice for keeping track of people to reduce crime.

Rev 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

God will cause the device that they trusted to prevent crime and to have peace to break open causing damage to the area.

Making the GPS tracking system seem more realistic.

United Nations Agenda 21 for the 21st century which is a sustainability act.

They want to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people are the police force.

They want to give the people a microchip under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They can watch the people, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under something and since it is given to a person it is stuck under their skin.

The New Age Christ's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind but their technology can help them to deter crime, and have peace.

The antichrist is of the new age which is of the occult and the occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers which they believe will give them more power through nature.

6 is the number of a person, or the soul of a person, so the antichrist has the number 666, a triple 6, which he believes will give him more power to evolve to be spiritual, and establish his kingdom.

666 is the number that exalts people in the occult.

They want to convince the world if they embrace the number 666 they will have the power to evolve, and transform the world.
As soon as he conquers without war, as he has an arrow with no bows, he won't be able to enact peace, as the following rider takes away peace and causes wars, which I think God intended beforehand to put stumbling blocks in his way. Followed my famines or plagues, all to show those who are on the fence that a 'humanist' approach to governing and being united like the days of the building of the tower of babel will not work.
 
I see things much simpler. I say it has to be a physical mark to control the economy
The phrase "can't buy or sell" refers to a prophecy in Revelation 13:17 concerning the final days before the second coming of Jesus. It is a future time of intense religious persecution where those who refuse to follow a "mark of the beast" identified as the forced observance of Sunday as a holy day rather than the seventh-day Sabbath will be economically restricted from participating in society especially normal commerce for daily living.
 
The phrase "can't buy or sell" refers to a prophecy in Revelation 13:17 concerning the final days before the second coming of Jesus. It is a future time of intense religious persecution where those who refuse to follow a "mark of the beast" identified as the forced observance of Sunday as a holy day rather than the seventh-day Sabbath will be economically restricted from participating in society especially normal commerce for daily living.

while i do not agree with you, i appreciate your honesty.

over the years, there have been s d a 's here, and they refused to admit or even denied that ya'll think sunday worship is the mark....
 
I'm old enough to remember when it was the barcode.
Gradualism is how the devil works. He doesn't want to scare off a somewhat biblically literate generation. Few pastors teach this topic any more. The ones who do consistently, 7th Day restorationists, get it wrong by a mile.
 
while i do not agree with you, i appreciate your honesty.

over the years, there have been s d a 's here, and they refused to admit or even denied that ya'll think sunday worship is the mark....
Why deny what the apostate church of Rome boasts about it and history shows it...

Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.'' Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.

"Protestants ... accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made the change... But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that ... in observing Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the Church, the pope." Our Sunday Visitor, February 5th, 1950. This Rock


Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.

Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday. -Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50


Q. Should not the Protestant doubt when he finds that he himself holds tradition as a guide?
A. Yes, if he would but reflect that he has nothing but Catholic Tradition for keeping the Sunday holy; ... Controversial Catechism by Stephen Keenan, New Edition, revised by Rev. George Cormack, published in London by Burns & Oates, Limited - New York, Cincinnati, Chicago: Benzinger Brothers, 1896, pages 6, 7.

"The Church, on the other hand, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath, or seventh day of the week, to the first, made the Third Commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord's Day. The Council of Trent (Sess. VI, can. xix) condemns those who deny that the Ten Commandments are binding on Christians." The Catholic Encyclopedia, Commandments of God, Volume IV, © 1908 by Robert Appleton Company, Online Edition © 1999 by Kevin Knight, Nihil Obstat - Remy Lafort, Censor Imprimatur - +John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York, page 153.

''The [Roman Catholic] Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her founder, Jesus Christ. The Protestant claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday. In this matter the Seventh-day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant.'' The Catholic Universe Bulletin, August 14, 1942, p. 4.

"All of us believe many things in regard to religion that we do not find in the Bible. For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath Day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the Church outside the Bible." The Catholic Virginian, "To Tell You The Truth,” Vol. 22, No. 49 (Oct. 3, 1947).

"... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify." The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.

"But since Saturday, not Sunday, is specified in the Bible, isn't it curious that non-Catholics who profess to take their religion directly from the Bible and not the Church, observe Sunday instead of Saturday? Yes, of course, it is inconsistent; but this change was made about fifteen centuries before Protestantism was born, and by that time the custom was universally observed. They have continued the custom, even though it rests upon the authority of the Catholic Church and not upon an explicit text in the Bible. That observance remains as a reminder of the Mother Church from which the non-Catholic sects broke away - like a boy running away from home but still carrying in his pocket a picture of his mother or a lock of her hair." The Faith of Millions


"Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was changed from Saturday to Sunday. "The Day of the Lord" (dies Dominica) was chosen, not from any directions noted in the Scriptures, but from the Church's sense of its own power. The day of resurrection, the day of Pentecost, fifty days later, came on the first day of the week. So this would be the new Sabbath. People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become 7th Day Adventists, and keep Saturday holy." Sentinel, Pastor's page, Saint Catherine Catholic Church, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995

'If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.' Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920.

'It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.'Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ on March 18, 1903. This Rock


'Of course these .. quotations are exactly correct. The Catholic Church designated Sunday as the day for corporate worship and gets full credit or blame ' This Rock,The Magazine of Catholic Apologetics and Evangelization, p.8, June 1997


'The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church.' Monsignor Louis Segur, 'Plain Talk about the Protestantism of Today';, p. 213.

And they go on and on..........
 
1 Corinthians 1:22-24
King James Version
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.