Can't See God Correctly

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IamWhoIam said:
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Wow, I never heard this song before. It really touched my heart. Beautiful message, brother IamWhoIam! Thanks for posting it.
 
umm I think saying I'm not really saved BC I feel angst is a bit much. I tried one time and it didn't take. second time it must have BC there's a huge difference in how I was after that...
 
Thank you. I haven't really had discipleship. I've read myself, and I'm a writer so I've read other peoples blogs and such and had to learn that way. it does feel like a kiljoy though. it does seem annoying that were convicted all the time. I know I'm different than most but that's me.
 
flatlinej said:
umm I think saying I'm not really saved BC I feel angst is a bit much. I tried one time and it didn't take. second time it must have BC there's a huge difference in how I was after that...
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No, being angst is often my go-to emotion, so I didn't mean to imply you weren't a believer merely for feeling angst.

But, if you tried to leave the Lord and couldn't, experience (yet again, my experience too) tells me you are a believer. He really doesn't give us a choice once he changes us. Often I don't like going through changing, but ultimately, he makes me better. (Truthfully, I just don't like change. lol)

BTW, something that might help you, so we know who you're talking to. When responding back to one particular post, click "Reply with Quotes" and what they said shows up, so we know who you're replying to.
 
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No, being angst is often my go-to emotion, so I didn't mean to imply you weren't a believer merely for feeling angst.

But, if you tried to leave the Lord and couldn't, experience (yet again, my experience too) tells me you are a believer. He really doesn't give us a choice once he changes us. Often I don't like going through changing, but ultimately, he makes me better. (Truthfully, I just don't like change. lol)

BTW, something that might help you, so we know who you're talking to. When responding back to one particular post, click "Reply with Quotes" and what they said shows up, so we know who you're replying to.
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oh now I see it...lol thanks
 
flatlinej said:
Well this is humiliating but I've had to give up homosexuality. I was gay for fifteen years. Also had to give up my career dreams BC I felt God saying no on them. Its really quite embarrassing about the gay thing BC no one is going to understand how much it hurts to let go after you've been through it.
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Actually that's "a blessing" not "humiliating" to be as God intended for people to be,and yeah overtime if you are "born again" you will "give up things" but if you don't find "joy" doing so then you have "hardly begun" walking with God,once born again one wants to "get rid of" the "garbage and filth" in one's life" as in things such as "homosexuality,idleness,cursing,seeking hurt,vanity,pride,idolatry,lusting,coveting,(wanting things that are not yours)" now granted not all of these will one be able to "give up" but some can be "managed",for example I personally have "given up" cursing/cussing and am glad for it because I actually feel more "joyous and talkative" after giving it up.
You have had many "experiences" and you may still have "doubts" but when you set those "doubts" aside and trust God/Jesus to guide you and seek to serve him,you will find a"joy" like you never found before,and eventually "not want" so much of the "old" of your life,but seek the "bright future" in your "new life".
 
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Once again, the attitude stinks. It even shows in your choice of user name, "flatline". You're not dead, so stop acting like it..I call things as I see them, so I'm not gonna sugar coat stuff for you. If you want to feel bad, then feel bad. BUT if you want to feel GOOD, then try changing your attitude FIRST because otherwise you aren't gonna make any changes to your life. You say I don't know your story, but you don't know mine either, or anyone else's. I suggest you read my testimonies, and ALL the testimonies in the Testimonies forum to gain some perspective on how to deal with your trials and find blessings in them regardless..


flatlinej said:
Its people like you that make me want me want to leave the faith. I'll feel how I want to feel thanks...You don't know my story and don't know how hard it is to write out on a forum
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blue_ladybug said:
Once again, the attitude stinks. It even shows in your choice of user name, "flatline". You're not dead, so stop acting like it..I call things as I see them, so I'm not gonna sugar coat stuff for you. If you want to feel bad, then feel bad. BUT if you want to feel GOOD, then try changing your attitude FIRST because otherwise you aren't gonna make any changes to your life. You say I don't know your story, but you don't know mine either, or anyone else's. I suggest you read my testimonies, and ALL the testimonies in the Testimonies forum to gain some perspective on how to deal with your trials and find blessings in them regardless..
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There's a time to be hard and there's a time to be gentle...


Flatline,
I see your struggles, I've been a Christian for 10 years and still struggle. The feeling of like I'm hanging off the edge of a cliff by one finger is more often than not. I still struggle with rejection issues that keeps me from God. Prayer, His Word, adoring Him for who He is.
But if it weren't for all this, I may have not learned that what pleases God is faith. Choosing to believe when my feelings, circumstances and world tells me otherwise. Now, it doesn't say that this faith is going to 'feel good'. It's not easy, there's going to be times where we drift through it and other times where it's like we sludge through mud trying to reach.
Another problem I have I find being amongst the Christian community is that people appear so happy all the time, appear so strong. Perhaps they are, most probably just me unfairly comparing myself but I also do know that people can also put on a mask to appear so. So don't worry about others.

If it's any consolation, you will be blessed. You have given up sin for His sake. The devil hates it but God has and will honour it.

It's a promise, it may seem like your looking into darkness but keep going.

Thanks for sharing.
 
I'm not trying to be hard. :) I'm trying to be real. But it starts with her, because her attitude definitely needs to change before she starts seeing any positive changes.. I'm sure her struggles are just as hard as any of ours are..


breno785au said:
There's a time to be hard and there's a time to be gentle...


Flatline,
I see your struggles, I've been a Christian for 10 years and still struggle. The feeling of like I'm hanging off the edge of a cliff by one finger is more often than not. I still struggle with rejection issues that keeps me from God. Prayer, His Word, adoring Him for who He is.
But if it weren't for all this, I may have not learned that what pleases God is faith. Choosing to believe when my feelings, circumstances and world tells me otherwise. Now, it doesn't say that this faith is going to 'feel good'. It's not easy, there's going to be times where we drift through it and other times where it's like we sludge through mud trying to reach.
Another problem I have I find being amongst the Christian community is that people appear so happy all the time, appear so strong. Perhaps they are, most probably just me unfairly comparing myself but I also do know that people can also put on a mask to appear so. So don't worry about others.

If it's any consolation, you will be blessed. You have given up sin for His sake. The devil hates it but God has and will honour it.

It's a promise, it may seem like your looking into darkness but keep going.

Thanks for sharing.
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breno785au said:
There's a time to be hard and there's a time to be gentle...


Flatline,
I see your struggles, I've been a Christian for 10 years and still struggle. The feeling of like I'm hanging off the edge of a cliff by one finger is more often than not. I still struggle with rejection issues that keeps me from God. Prayer, His Word, adoring Him for who He is.
But if it weren't for all this, I may have not learned that what pleases God is faith. Choosing to believe when my feelings, circumstances and world tells me otherwise. Now, it doesn't say that this faith is going to 'feel good'. It's not easy, there's going to be times where we drift through it and other times where it's like we sludge through mud trying to reach.
Another problem I have I find being amongst the Christian community is that people appear so happy all the time, appear so strong. Perhaps they are, most probably just me unfairly comparing myself but I also do know that people can also put on a mask to appear so. So don't worry about others.

If it's any consolation, you will be blessed. You have given up sin for His sake. The devil hates it but God has and will honour it.

It's a promise, it may seem like your looking into darkness but keep going.

Thanks for sharing.
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This is very nice thank you. yes, other Christians to appear perfect when their not and actually gets to me a lot I see it all the time.
 
blue_ladybug said:
I'm not trying to be hard. :) I'm trying to be real. But it starts with her, because her attitude definitely needs to change before she starts seeing any positive changes.. I'm sure her struggles are just as hard as any of ours are..
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I don't know what your problem is,but if I have an attitude its my right. if you don't like it,vthen quit acting self righteous and mean. do you realize you are nowhere near being Christ like when you act this way? if I have an attitude its BC I've had it up to here with people "who don't want to sugarcoat" things. enough is enough.
 
flatlinej said:
I don't know what your problem is,but if I have an attitude its my right. if you don't like it,vthen quit acting self righteous and mean. do you realize you are nowhere near being Christ like when you act this way? if I have an attitude its BC I've had it up to here with people "who don't want to sugarcoat" things. enough is enough.
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Nah you got it all wrong,blue lady bug,"trys to help" but can come across as "mean" but she's not,besides,"Enduring" is part of "being a Christian".
 
I don't have a problem. I'm just trying to get you to see that before anything in your life will change, the attitude needs to be the first.. How can you see God, when your attitude is in the way? I'm not trying to be mean. I'm sorry. :) All I'm saying is, if you don't like how your life is, do something to change it. It starts with YOU to change, cuz God won't help you if you're not willing to help yourself..

flatlinej said:
I don't know what your problem is,but if I have an attitude its my right. if you don't like it,vthen quit acting self righteous and mean. do you realize you are nowhere near being Christ like when you act this way? if I have an attitude its BC I've had it up to here with people "who don't want to sugarcoat" things. enough is enough.
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You DO know that Jesus was harsh sometimes, right? He yelled, got mad, called people names, and brandished a whip in front of the money changers in the temple..


flatlinej said:
I don't know what your problem is,but if I have an attitude its my right. if you don't like it,vthen quit acting self righteous and mean. do you realize you are nowhere near being Christ like when you act this way? if I have an attitude its BC I've had it up to here with people "who don't want to sugarcoat" things. enough is enough.
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flatlinej said:
I really don't know how to say it, but I'll try. I've been born again for two years, its been the hardest two years ever. I've read a lot of my Bible, pray, I even tell God my frustrations, even though I'm embarrassed by them. truth is, I'm not feeling it. after reading tons of stuff, I'm so weary of hearing that dying to self is a good thing, we can't have our dreams come true, etc. God has made me give up a large number of things, how can I not be upset? when I think about leaving this faith behind, I think to myself: I can't. He would punish me, even take my life if he had to, I'm stuck. so that's how I feel lately, and a lot..stuck with Him, not feeling good about it. I'm tired of christian cliches, and guilt trips,cookie cutter nonsense, phrases like..its not about you, your a horrible sinner, etc. these things don't help people feel better about themselves. I try to notice everything he does, I'm thankful for little things. I just feel helpless. I'm trying to write out my feelings more, but this will take time. I've prayed often for Him to give me a better perception of him, for months now, and he never has. I don't know why I'm putting myself out to be beaten up, but I'll try anyway. What can you do if you feel flatline? if when you read his promises, there's nothing there? you live a miserable existence, a trial that's extended an entire year, and no breaks in between? its hard to look at God and not be upset.
If my views can't get better I'll be in a bad place.
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[video=youtube;EsWaFBq8cm0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWaFBq8cm0[/video] I hope this song melts your heart like it did mine.
 
One positive thing you can do is to make a list of everything that you're thankful for. And another list of things that prove to you that God exists. And another list of all your blessings in the midst of your trials.. You say yours has lasted a year or so.. Many here who have trials, theirs has gone on for DECADES. My trials started when I was 5 years old, up to this very day and ongoing. If WE managed to persevere through, so can you. :)

There is a season for everything and God says "this too shall pass". Life isn't supposed to be easy. If it were, we'd be in paradise..
 
blue_ladybug said:
You DO know that Jesus was harsh sometimes, right? He yelled, got mad, called people names, and brandished a whip in front of the money changers in the temple..
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True indeed,

IMO I believe Jesus swung the wip at them, more than likely leaving afew welts on some.
 
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