Catholic "Ten" Commandments
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Bazman
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No big trick. Look up "who changed the sabbath to sunday" sometime. They are brazen about the fact.
This doesn't reflect the Catholic Bible at all.
Vulgate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -> "The Nova Vulgata, also called the Neo-Vulgate, is currently the typical Latin edition published by the Holy See for use in the Roman rite."
From the Holy See's website -> Nova Vulgata - Vetus Testamentum
LIBER EXODUS 20:4 Non facies tibi sculptile neque omnem similitudinem eorum, quae sunt in caelo desuper et quae in terra deorsum et quae in aquis sub terra.
Exod 20:4 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
LIBER DEUTERONOMII 5:8 Non facies tibi sculptile nec similitudinem omnium, quae in caelo sunt desuper et quae in terra deorsum et quae versantur in aquis sub terra.
Deut 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, nor the likeness of all things, that is in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that abide in the waters under the earth.
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Bryancampbell
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I have posted something about this exact thing on that Catholic thread, a man told me that the 1st is connected to the 2nd. I argue though, that the first is mentioning no other gods as in anything, whereas the real 2nd commandment is about not making graven images of anything to be used as worship. And it's ridiculous to split the last commandment but ignore the "thou shalt not make graven images" which I find hypocritical or something.
It's in all Catholic churches Matt, according to what the Catholics said here, I saw it at the St. Patrick church too and was wondering.
It's in all Catholic churches Matt, according to what the Catholics said here, I saw it at the St. Patrick church too and was wondering.
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Chinekwu
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Laodicea
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1 Kings 11:7 KJV
(7) Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon.
Notice that this text abomination is idol worship.
Daniel 11:31 KJV
(31) And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
(7) Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon.
Notice that this text abomination is idol worship.
Daniel 11:31 KJV
(31) And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Making a graven image is the breaking of the First Commandment so why would it be a separate command?
1st is no other Gods before me. Exo 20:3 "“You shall have no other gods before Me."
2nd is no graven images. Exo 20:4 "“You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth."
Also, realize that the Protestants don't agree which is which, neither do the Jews. The problem is based in the fact that "chapter and verse" was introduced in the Middle Ages to make copying and memorization easier.
Yet in this picture, they clearly left out "no idols". No matter what order you put it in, that commandment isn't there.
It's no wonder I guess that they left out the commandment to not make graven images and idols seeing that they're such experts at it.
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Graybeard
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Great, and what do you think an idol is? Maybe something you consider as a god to pray too? Just because it's in a separate verse don't make it a second command, you have to read all of it, you know, the chapter, the book to get a full understanding.
And just so you all know my WELS Lutheran is based right off the RCC so if I seem to be a little touchy on the subject of any discrimination of the RCC it's because I'm Christian just like them.
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I understand the sensitivity. I know there are a lot of God-loving people in the RCC, but the institution itself has a lot more flaws and error in it.