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[Dude653]

Back to " I'm leaning on my own understanding and opinion and will not come into fellowship with the one who died for me".

You mistake a personal relationship with Christ for a series of "do this, don't do that's" (religion). Thus walk in darkness without Him, yet He puts people in your path to share His truth with you, and because He is willing to go the extra mile for you there will be no excuse for anyone who does not receive His gifts.
best wishes

Because I'm not interested in opinions. I want to see scriptural references that say we can't study particle physics

 

[shittim]

ALL you are interested in is opinion, hence your fruitless posts.

That is pretty ignorant thing for a person to do, again, relationship with Christ is NOT a series of do this and don't do that. You appear to have no knowledge of this by your posts.

 

[Dude653]

That is pretty ignorant thing for a person to do, again, relationship with Christ is NOT a series of do this and don't do that. You have ZERO knowledge of this by your posts.

You need to get over yourself. I asked a question which you are dodging. Show me in the Bible where it says we can't study particle physics

 

[ZNP]

You need to get over yourself. I asked a question which you are dodging. Show me in the Bible where it says we can't study particle physics

Go ahead, there is no prohibition against studying it, there is no prohibition against building your own particle accelerator, there is no prohibition against opening pandora's box.

You know the commandments, love God with your whole heart and love your neighbor as yourself. If you want to be perfect sell your possessions and give to the poor.

What the Bible does say is at the end of the age all those who worshipped Satan and were part of the Beast system will be destroyed. It also says that the pit of hell will be opened and all those demons and fallen angels locked up there will be released to terrorize the earth.

So stop idolizing these ones who are simply pawns in fulfilling what the Bible has already said will take place and must take place. It is righteous judgement that all those who open Pandora's box will be the same who suffer the ill effects of that decision.

It is also righteous that God would warn against what they are doing and that those who are destined for the slaughter would mock and ridicule that.

 

[shittim]

"It is also righteous that God would warn against what they are doing and that those who are destined for the slaughter would mock and ridicule that. "

Apparently they will look pretty ignorant as they do so.

 

[Dude653]

Go ahead, there is no prohibition against studying it, there is no prohibition against building your own particle accelerator, there is no prohibition against opening pandora's box.

You know the commandments, love God with your whole heart and love your neighbor as yourself. If you want to be perfect sell your possessions and give to the poor.

What the Bible does say is at the end of the age all those who worshipped Satan and were part of the Beast system will be destroyed. It also says that the pit of hell will be opened and all those demons and fallen angels locked up there will be released to terrorize the earth.

So stop idolizing these ones who are simply pawns in fulfilling what the Bible has already said will take place and must take place. It is righteous judgement that all those who open Pandora's box will be the same who suffer the ill effects of that decision.

It is also righteous that God would warn against what they are doing and that those who are destined for the slaughter would mock and ridicule that.

This is another reason why Christianity is on the decline america.
Equating everything scientific with Satan

 

[shittim]

His church is growing and expanding as He continues to pour out His Spirit more and more, phony religion is declining.
From your posts you don't appear to know the difference.

 

[Dude653]

His church is growing and expanding as He continues to pour out His Spirit more and more, phony religion is declining.
From your posts you don't appear to know the difference.

Pew research indicates that Christians will be the minority in America by 2050.
If you want Christianity to grow in America instead of shrink. You can start by not demonizing science

 

[Dude653]

Go ahead, there is no prohibition against studying it, there is no prohibition against building your own particle accelerator, there is no prohibition against opening pandora's box.

You know the commandments, love God with your whole heart and love your neighbor as yourself. If you want to be perfect sell your possessions and give to the poor.

What the Bible does say is at the end of the age all those who worshipped Satan and were part of the Beast system will be destroyed. It also says that the pit of hell will be opened and all those demons and fallen angels locked up there will be released to terrorize the earth.

So stop idolizing these ones who are simply pawns in fulfilling what the Bible has already said will take place and must take place. It is righteous judgement that all those who open Pandora's box will be the same who suffer the ill effects of that decision.

It is also righteous that God would warn against what they are doing and that those who are destined for the slaughter would mock and ridicule that.

None of this is relevant because you still haven't answered my question. What's the link between particle physics and worshiping satan?
If I recall correctly it was Mark Twain who said why would a God give us a brain and expect us to forgo its use
If everyone had your mentality, we would still be in the Dark ages

 

[ZNP]

This is another reason why Christianity is on the decline america.
Equating everything scientific with Satan

The US and then the world will be judged because they worship the creation instead of the creator.

 

[Dude653]

The US and then the world will be judged because they worship the creation instead of the creator.

Okay but first you said they're worshiping Satan I'll ask you a second time. What's the link between particle physics and worshiping satan?
And how is just trying to figure out how stuff works worshiping the creation?
That same logic germ theory would be worshiping the creation
Maybe should all just go back to the Dark ages when the average lifespan was 40

 

[ZNP]

What's the link between particle physics and worshiping satan?

Nope, that is not the question. The question on this thread and that you have asked is what is the link between a particle accelerator and Satan. Two very different things.

The link between CERN and Satan is $4.75 billion. Only the ruler of this age has that kind of money to spend on "studying physics". So the real question is why does Satan think it is so important to build CERN and the other particle accelerators around the world.

But now this, the whole world lies in the Evil one, if Satan didn't see the need for this they never would have gotten $4.75 billion.

 

[shittim]

Pew research indicates that Christians will be the minority in America by 2050.
If you want Christianity to grow in America instead of shrink. You can start by not demonizing science

Pew research doesn't measure Christians, they measure religions.

 

[Dude653]

Nope, that is not the question. The question on this thread and that you have asked is what is the link between a particle accelerator and Satan. Two very different things.

The link between CERN and Satan is $4.75 billion. Only the ruler of this age has that kind of money to spend on "studying physics". So the real question is why does Satan think it is so important to build CERN and the other particle accelerators around the world.

But now this, the whole world lies in the Evil one, if Satan didn't see the need for this they never would have gotten $4.75 billion.

You should be at yoga instructor because that was a pretty impressive stretch
4.75 billion isn't even that much when several countries are pitching in to pay for it
That's pocket change just compared to America's annual military budget

 

[Dude653]

America's fans 30 million a year just putting people in prison for nonviolent drug crimes but God forbid we spend a few dollars on something scientific

 

[ZNP]

You should be at yoga instructor because that was a pretty impressive stretch
4.75 billion isn't even that much when several countries are pitching in to pay for it
That's pocket change just compared to America's annual military budget

$4 billion was too much to pay for a wall across our Southern border. Now consider that, 40% of that money would come back to the US as tax, so the real cost to us would have been $2.6 billion. Then everyone agrees that a border wall would reduce the number of people coming across, perhaps dramatically. We have already spent $2.6 billion feeding, housing, and transporting the illegal immigrants all over the country as well as pay for interdiction and all the other border security measures. It is a simple thing to prove that over a 5 year period that $4 billion would have paid for itself and improved our security. Would it be perfect, no, but would it have saved us $4 billion elsewhere as well as reducing Fentanyl deaths, and human trafficking and gang violence? Yes, without a doubt. The Cartels now make more money from human trafficking than they do from drugs.

So why was it that they claimed "it was too expensive"? Because it didn't serve Satan's purposes.

On the other hand sending $140 billion to Ukraine in money that is not audited, that promotes all the corruption that even they admit, that promoted the FTX fraud, that is pushing us to the brink of WWIII is not even up for debate. How do you explain that? Simple, Satan is all for it.

 

[Dude653]

$4 billion was too much to pay for a wall across our Southern border. Now consider that, 40% of that money would come back to the US as tax, so the real cost to us would have been $2.6 billion. Then everyone agrees that a border wall would reduce the number of people coming across, perhaps dramatically. We have already spent $2.6 billion feeding, housing, and transporting the illegal immigrants all over the country as well as pay for interdiction and all the other border security measures. It is a simple thing to prove that over a 5 year period that $4 billion would have paid for itself and improved our security. Would it be perfect, no, but would it have saved us $4 billion elsewhere as well as reducing Fentanyl deaths, and human trafficking and gang violence? Yes, without a doubt. The Cartels now make more money from human trafficking than they do from drugs.

So why was it that they claimed "it was too expensive"? Because it didn't serve Satan's purposes.

On the other hand sending $140 billion to Ukraine in money that is not audited, that promotes all the corruption that even they admit, that promoted the FTX fraud, that is pushing us to the brink of WWIII is not even up for debate. How do you explain that? Simple, Satan is all for it.

You still haven't shown the connection between particle physics and Satan
Also I have said this multiple times on other threads but I'll say it again here. The war on drugs is a self-defeating idea.
Criminalize drugs
Cartels have Monopoly on criminalized drugs
Cartels make more money to bring in more drugs.
Just take about 30 billion dollars a year and flush it down the toilet. You will get the same result

 

[maxwel]

I wouldn't recommend getting too worked up by a "pop science" video that loosely mixes scientific data with speculation, and then fails to invite any experts with contrary views or rebuttals.


A.) This video is very interesting, but it's also full of unsubstantiated claims... and I don't find anything in this video worrisome, in any way, to a Christian.

B.) I'm far more concerned about the daily price of eggs, than some anonymous channel on youtube, from some completely anonymous source, with neither accountability nor credentials, claiming wholeheartedly we now live in an infinite set of temporally fractured universes... with, of course, no actual verification of that.... and with no experts allowed to speak to the contrary.

C. And if we don't have time to study out the science... more Bible study will clear up a fair number of these issues.
God does not only give us metaphysical and theological truths, but he even gives us rational methods for study.




Interesting video, and interesting topic... and although it's fun to discuss these things, I don't think Christians need to worry about them.
Take care everyone, and have a lovely week.

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[Dude653]

I wouldn't recommend getting too worked up by a "pop science" video that loosely mixes scientific data with speculation, and then fails to invite any experts with contrary views or rebuttals.


A.) This video is very interesting, but it's also full of unsubstantiated claims... and I don't find anything in this video worrisome, in any way, to a Christian.

B.) I'm far more concerned about the daily price of eggs, than some anonymous channel on youtube, from some completely anonymous source, with neither accountability nor credentials, claiming wholeheartedly we now live in an infinite set of temporally fractured universes... with, of course, no actual verification of that.... and with no experts allowed to speak to the contrary.

C. And if we don't have time to study out the science... more Bible study will clear up a fair number of these issues.
God does not only give us metaphysical and theological truths, but he even gives us rational methods for study.




Interesting video, and interesting topic... and although it's fun to discuss these things, I don't think Christians need to worry about them.
Take care everyone, and have a lovely week.

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That's exactly my point. Why would God give us intelligence to try to figure things out and then expect us not to use said intelligence?

 

[shittim]

those are all carnal, worldly, concerns when focus should be on the Lord and our eternal home