Chick-fil-A and Homosexuality

[Daniel94]

I so miss the days when my only concern over eating fast-food was the grease and the calories. Now, I have to consider what political statement I'm making every time I decide to shove something in my mouth? Jeez.

That being said, this doesn't affect me much. I like Chick-Fil-A, but I'm trying to be healthier and to budget my money, so I haven't eaten there in a while. Given the opportunity, however, I will definitely think twice before eating there again. God told us to love everyone, and to leave the judgement to him...I don't think they're representing that message fairly.

I don't think the CEO meant in anyway to deny or judge homosexuals. He was just voicing his opinions as to how he perceives it. There is nothing wrong with that. Honestly, though if your going to not go somewhere because of a statement they made who is being judgmental then? Sounds hypocritical to me. I could understand if a CEO of a company had said they were using their profits for satanic worship or something of the sort, but to just completely deny your patronage to a place based solely on the fact that he has high religious values and holds the Bible as a higher authority then you really need to open your eyes. I am not trying to judge you or anything of the sort I am just voicing my opinion like we are all entitled to do.

PS: Only reason I say not going to somewhere using their profits for satanic worship is because as Christians that would go against everything we believe and that is not being judgmental.

 

[PrettyBelle]

Bigotted I would still say possibly, thi isnt the first time Chick-fil-a has been in the news for its stance on gay rights. They have a pretty strong history of being anti-gay. Which I can understand from a strictly christian viewpoint of the world, however the world isnt christian, i dont even know if christianity is the most popular religion in the world anymore. regardless of your personal beliefs on whether or not homosexuality is wrong they deserve the same rights others enjoy. Like being able to get married. It has nothing to do with religion at this point since marriage is tied in more with the state than anything. No one says you have to approve or even like gay people. But that doesnt mean you should treat them as second class citizens.

Biblical marriage is the only right way to get married. If you read the bible (which is true) then homosexuality and biseuality is a sin. I used to be bisexual and hold a lot of the world's viewpoints on sexual preference. But God delivered me from it and I don't lust after women anymore. Nautilus are you a Christian? If so then why do you support homosexual rights?

As Christians we are supposed to hate sin but love the sinner and stand up for biblical principle. As a Christian I don't support candidates that are for gay marriage, abortion, and other moral hot button topics like that. I wish we could still pray in school, be tax exempt as Christian citizens for our tax dollars to be used for abortions, and hate seperation of church and state for those reasons. But the government includes thses moral topics in legislation and whether I believe in gay marriage and abortion doesn't matter to them. My tax dollars still get used for it. I'm not going to just shut up and take it. It's wrong because the bible says so, so I will not support it.

 

[PrettyBelle]

Plus Chick-fila is awesome and I applaud the CEO for stating his beliefs and not backing down because they are not pc. If I had one close to my work and could afford eating out I would go there everyday!

 

[Nautilus]

I agree if a church does not want to host gay marriages then they should have the free choice not to because it does go against our beliefs. However if people want tot have a purely civil union or whatever you want to call it that should be allowed. Marriage is as much part of the state now as it is part of the church. Most gay couples don't even care about the religious part, they just want the same rights and benefits provided to straight couples. And denying them that, is inhumane. Besides its not like we should be telling two consenting they cant love each other and celebrate it in union like all other couples do. It might not be christian, but look at the world around you, marriage isnt even christian anymore.

 

[betrys]

I don't think the CEO meant in anyway to deny or judge homosexuals. He was just voicing his opinions as to how he perceives it. There is nothing wrong with that. Honestly, though if your going to not go somewhere because of a statement they made who is being judgmental then? Sounds hypocritical to me. I could understand if a CEO of a company had said they were using their profits for satanic worship or something of the sort, but to just completely deny your patronage to a place based solely on the fact that he has high religious values and holds the Bible as a higher authority then you really need to open your eyes. I am not trying to judge you or anything of the sort I am just voicing my opinion like we are all entitled to do.

PS: Only reason I say not going to somewhere using their profits for satanic worship is because as Christians that would go against everything we believe and that is not being judgmental.

This is true, of course. If that were the case, and the CEO simply believed that Homosexuality was wrong, I would continue to eat there happily. I have no issue with his opinion, even if my own differs.
But that is NOT the case, and the CEO uses the money of his company to support anti-gay groups throughout the United States. In 2010, nearly 2 million dollars went to fight gay marriage throughout the United States.

As a CITIZEN, who stands against corporate donations to hate groups and political organizations, I cannot abide by that.

Chick-Fil-A's Anti-Gay Donations Totaled Nearly $2 Million In 2010: Report

 

[Nautilus]

This is true, of course. If that were the case, and the CEO simply believed that Homosexuality was wrong, I would continue to eat there happily. I have no issue with his opinion, even if my own differs.
But that is NOT the case, and the CEO uses the money of his company to support anti-gay groups throughout the United States. In 2010, nearly 2 million dollars went to fight gay marriage throughout the United States.

As a CITIZEN, who stands against corporate donations to hate groups and political organizations, I cannot abide by that.

Chick-Fil-A's Anti-Gay Donations Totaled Nearly $2 Million In 2010: Report

So instead your going to screw over the hourly employees who are the ones that would actually suffer? Dan Cathy isn't going to lose sleep over some peopl boycotting his resaurants the man is set for life financially. Instead he will just lay off employees who are already struggling from working a probably minimum wage job. So unless you're willing to deal with that as well, its about time people put their bleeding hearts away before you start hurting innocent people financially in an already crap economy.

 

[betrys]

So instead your going to screw over the hourly employees who are the ones that would actually suffer? Dan Cathy isn't going to lose sleep over some peopl boycotting his resaurants the man is set for life financially. Instead he will just lay off employees who are already struggling from working a probably minimum wage job. So unless you're willing to deal with that as well, its about time people put their bleeding hearts away before you start hurting innocent people financially in an already crap economy.

Not at all. First, I doubt MY rare visits to Chick Fil A will be missed--I only went there once every other month or so, and even then I never ordered more than a plain chicken sandwich and a lemonade. Second, I am a consumer, and as such I have a right and responsibility to make purchases from companies that a) have the products I desire and b) are ethical. I don't really desire Chick Fil A (like I said, I want to be healthier), and I think the CEO is being unethical.

I'm not JUST making a political statement about the issue. Frankly, I think mixing politics and business is a bad idea, always. I'm making my own personal, moral decision to stop shopping at a place that, in my opinion, hinders progress in our society.
Vegetarians don't SERIOUSLY expect the world to change because of their vegetarianism. They do it because they feel that it is right. This is a less radical version of that

Anyway, if many people do protest, then perhaps the CEO will bow to pressure and stop doing things that keep consumers away. If he chooses to stick to his guns and continues to isolate customers, then he's a bad businessman. That's capitalism.

 

[xXErraticEmilyXx]

The writer only titled it "slammed" to grab attention.

 

[DinoDillinger]

This is true, of course. If that were the case, and the CEO simply believed that Homosexuality was wrong, I would continue to eat there happily. I have no issue with his opinion, even if my own differs.
But that is NOT the case, and the CEO uses the money of his company to support anti-gay groups throughout the United States. In 2010, nearly 2 million dollars went to fight gay marriage throughout the United States.

As a CITIZEN, who stands against corporate donations to hate groups and political organizations, I cannot abide by that.

Chick-Fil-A's Anti-Gay Donations Totaled Nearly $2 Million In 2010: Report

Being against gay marriage makes you a hate group? Are you serious?

 

[Daniel94]

Anyway, if many people do protest, then perhaps the CEO will bow to pressure and stop doing things that keep consumers away. If he chooses to stick to his guns and continues to isolate customers, then he's a bad businessman. That's capitalism.

Are you sure you are a Christian?

Do you think God would appreciate him caving in to what society wants? As if, we are here to please God not man so don't play that game cause you clearly lose. Also do you think God would want him as a Christian to just sit on his money and not do anything with? As long as the anti-gay groups are not trying to physically or emotionally harm a member of the gay community I see no problem. Also I don't think his business will fail unless God wants it to so as long as he follows God he has nothing to worry about.

I guess that is also the problem with Christians today we act like we don't sin and none of us can hardly ever agree on anything. I would like to put an end to this all right now by saying God knows what is in each of our hearts and how we truly feel about something and whether these feelings are good or bad. So on that note I think it is time we agree to disagree because if we are true Christians we wouldn't be arguing about this anyways.

Honestly, people make such big deals out of stuff anymore. It is getting ridiculous. :/

 

[DinoDillinger]

Are you sure you are a Christian?

Do you think God would appreciate him caving in to what society wants? As if, we are here to please God not man so don't play that game cause you clearly lose. Also do you think God would want him as a Christian to just sit on his money and not do anything with? As long as the anti-gay groups are not trying to physically or emotionally harm a member of the gay community I see no problem. Also I don't think his business will fail unless God wants it to so as long as he follows God he has nothing to worry about.

I guess that is also the problem with Christians today we act like we don't sin and none of us can hardly ever agree on anything. I would like to put an end to this all right now by saying God knows what is in each of our hearts and how we truly feel about something and whether these feelings are good or bad. So on that note I think it is time we agree to disagree because if we are true Christians we wouldn't be arguing about this anyways.

Honestly, people make such big deals out of stuff anymore. It is getting ridiculous. :/

She's not christian according to her profile.

 

[Ugly]

Who is judging? They are Christians and made a public pronouncement of their faith and biblical understanding that homosexuality is a sin.

 

[betrys]

She's not christian according to her profile.

I admit, I wasn't a Christian when I first made this profile years ago. Since then, I've found God, and I've never been happier. Thanks, though, for dismissing my argument completely because you thought I differed from you spiritually. I TOTALLY appreciate that.

And I do believe anti-gay groups, at least many of them, are hate groups. To knowingly and gleefully oppress a group of people who simply want to LOVE one another is wrong. And even if you believe that being "anti-gay" isn't hateful, the rhetoric and tactics used by many of those groups ARE hateful.

My stance on this issue is thus because I REJECT the notion that homosexuality is a sin at all. There are six passages in the Bible that refer in some way to same-sex behavior. When taken in context, NONE of them condemn gay marriage and homosexuality (at least, not in any way that is different from the Bible's warnings against heterosexual lust and adultery).

And if there's anything that frustrates me more than bigotry and hate where there should be acceptance and love, it's cherry-picking Scripture. Plucking verses from the Bible that SEEM to prove your point without reading deeper into it is theological laziness of the worst degree.

If you don't believe me, I welcome you to watch this video: (Yes, it's long, but you should watch it anyway and please, please approach it with an open mind)

The Gay Debate: The Bible and Homosexuality - YouTube

 

[Helloimandrewyo]

^ Thank you.

 

[djness]

I admit, I wasn't a Christian when I first made this profile years ago. Since then, I've found God, and I've never been happier. Thanks, though, for dismissing my argument completely because you thought I differed from you spiritually. I TOTALLY appreciate that.

If I showed up at the million man march forgetting to take off my for KKK outfit and telling them I supported their movement I would expect that to send mixed messages. I wouldn't be offended that they said ''According to your outfit you do not support our movement''. How would they know I did? So yah..according to the one of the main identifiers on this site, you still are not christian. Should we all just assume everyone is cause they joined a christian site?

My stance on this issue is thus because I REJECT the notion that homosexuality is a sin at all. There are six passages in the Bible that refer in some way to same-sex behavior. When taken in context, NONE of them condemn gay marriage and homosexuality (at least, not in any way that is different from the Bible's warnings against heterosexual lust and adultery).

Do those six passages condone homosexuality or they just in there as filler because the author needed to hit a 250 word essay cap? When taken in context they are listed along side several other sins, is that just done because the author says ''Of these sins ye shall not partake but homosexuality is perfectly alright, you do love the guy or gal after all and that is totally cool with me I'm not judging at all, BUT HELL FIRE TO THE REST OF YOU DIRTY SINNERS, AMEN!""
According to your parentheses you disagree with yourself anyway.

And if there's anything that frustrates me more than bigotry and hate where there should be acceptance and love, it's cherry-picking Scripture. Plucking verses from the Bible that SEEM to prove your point without reading deeper into it is theological laziness of the worst degree.

Plucking verses from the Bible that SEEM to prove your point without reading deeper into it is theological deception of the worst degree.
Yeah..I juxtaposed your sentence.

Disclaimer: I have never been affiliated with the KKK. It was just an example!!!
Also, I wouldn't boy-cot Chic-fil-a...not sure I even spelled the name of the store correctly. That's how little I got there anyway. Taco bell!!!!

 

[betrys]

\You're right that I should have changed that sooner. To be honest, I didn't even realize it was listed on there. I never spent much time perusing through the profiles of others, and I guess it slipped my mind. That being said, equating agnosticism with the KKK is, if not a false analogy, a pretty outrageous one. Anyway, that is a topic for another day.

I could give you a run through of each individual passage, but the video does so very well. Did you watch it? I am not being deceptive. My interpretation of the Scripture leads me to believe that homosexuality in and of itself is not a sin. And my humanity forces me to respect all individuals and love them, regardless of their sexual orientation.

I challenge you to watch the video. There IS a BIBLICAL argument for homosexuality, whether you choose to accept that or not.

As for the boycotting Chick-Fil-A thing (you know, what the thread is actually about?) I did mention in my first post that all of this is rather silly, and that I'd rather NOT make a political statement through my food. My decision to abstain from Chick-Fil-A is a personal one based on both my health and my morals. I don't expect or require others to do the same.

 

[djness]

\You're right that I should have changed that sooner. To be honest, I didn't even realize it was listed on there. I never spent much time perusing through the profiles of others, and I guess it slipped my mind. That being said, equating agnosticism with the KKK is, if not a false analogy, a pretty outrageous one. Anyway, that is a topic for another day.

I could give you a run through of each individual passage, but the video does so very well. Did you watch it? I am not being deceptive. My interpretation of the Scripture leads me to believe that homosexuality in and of itself is not a sin. And my humanity forces me to respect all individuals and love them, regardless of their sexual orientation.

I challenge you to watch the video. There IS a BIBLICAL argument for homosexuality, whether you choose to accept that or not.

As for the boycotting Chick-Fil-A thing (you know, what the thread is actually about?) I did mention in my first post that all of this is rather silly, and that I'd rather NOT make a political statement through my food. My decision to abstain from Chick-Fil-A is a personal one based on both my health and my morals. I don't expect or require others to do the same.

You didn't get my example at all.....

 

[Nautilus]

And my humanity forces me to respect all individuals and love them, regardless of their sexual orientation.

Absolutely correct.

 

[betrys]

Which one, Djness? The essay analogy? To be frank, I didn't address it because I didn't find it compelling in the slightest. You still didn't answer MY question, though. Did you watch the video?

 

[djness]

Which one, Djness? The essay analogy? To be frank, I didn't address it because I didn't find it compelling in the slightest. You still didn't answer MY question, though. Did you watch the video?

Watched 7 minutes. I don't need to watch the whole hour and some odd minutes to know what the bible says.

The bible does not at any point condone homosexuality.

As for the analogy I was referring to it was of the man wearing an outfit at a rally that did not match his vocalized stance.