Christian Metal

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Lynx

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The answers about ANYTHING musical are all over the place. Music is very subjective.

Maybe it doesn't sound very metal to me because the Christian metal in my collection is "harder" than that. Maybe some people think of it as metal.

All I know is, he said perhaps it sounds like metal so I thought I'd offer an opinion about whether it is metal or not.

It did sound interesting though.
 

Subhumanoidal

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They sound metal enough to me :unsure::giggle: Curious about what defines them as being distinctly different,
I looked it up:
what separates metal from rock in music? The answers were kind of all over the place :LOL:

Ozzy Osbourne is often called the godfather of heavy metal.
Part of this issue is more of a modern viewpoint. In the 80s and 90s hair bands, for example, were considered metal without question. Younger people now don't think of such bands as metal because they don't view them as heavy enough as modern bands have pushed heaviness to its limits.
So that is likely at least part of the discrepancy in definition.
 

ChrisTillinen

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Trying to define what exactly makes a piece of music metal or not is definitely above my paygrade if it can even be done. Perhaps it's more like that one American judge's comment about pornography: "I can't define it exactly, but I know it when I see it" (or something like that, I don't know the exact quote). So perhaps one will just know it when hearing it in this case. Or perhaps one just has to accept some generally agreed-upon paradigm examples or what constitutes "metal" and then compare others to them.
 

Subhumanoidal

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Trying to define what exactly makes a piece of music metal or not is definitely above my paygrade if it can even be done. Perhaps it's more like that one American judge's comment about pornography: "I can't define it exactly, but I know it when I see it" (or something like that, I don't know the exact quote). So perhaps one will just know it when hearing it in this case. Or perhaps one just has to accept some generally agreed-upon paradigm examples or what constitutes "metal" and then compare others to them.
You'll find people that lean more towards rock, or are more casual listeners of rock/metal tend to use the term metal more loosely than people more invested. Metal heads in particular nitpick the distinctions as they don't want rock classified as metal. Metal heads also tend to be more genre focused, wanting to make the distinctions, even among closely related sub genres. At times you'll even see debates over whether a band is X genre or Y genre of metal.
 

Lynx

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Part of this issue is more of a modern viewpoint. In the 80s and 90s hair bands, for example, were considered metal without question. Younger people now don't think of such bands as metal because they don't view them as heavy enough as modern bands have pushed heaviness to its limits.
So that is likely at least part of the discrepancy in definition.
Did you just say I'm young?

*Lynx brushes a tear from his eye.

Thank you sir. (sniff) God bless you.
 

Lynx

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You'll find people that lean more towards rock, or are more casual listeners of rock/metal tend to use the term metal more loosely than people more invested. Metal heads in particular nitpick the distinctions as they don't want rock classified as metal. Metal heads also tend to be more genre focused, wanting to make the distinctions, even among closely related sub genres. At times you'll even see debates over whether a band is X genre or Y genre of metal.
Maybe it's like snow. We southerners just say "EEEK! SNOW!" and hide indoors. The Inuits know snow so well that they have different words for different kinds of snow.

Or like the French and their different words for different kinds of pride...

Maybe different sections of music are like that. All I know about country is "Twang!" "That's country music" but maybe people who are really into country argue about different subcategories.
 

ChrisTillinen

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Sabaton is not a Christian band, but at least one of the members has played in a Christian metal band before, and the song is about Christmas, so perhaps this is close enough to post here.

 
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Its not a Christian band but i find the song and it's lyrics really nice

There's a fire at the horizon
Infernal and divine

Majestic as a sunset
Burning in an orange line

The world will burn hard
In a withering fire

And will come to an end in a funeral pyre

The fiery father will come out of the sky
He shall strike upon us who were born to fry
Out of despair into a mass genocide
Souls swept away by his nuclear tide

A dark wind blows
Over this land of death

Pounding everything
Into a black smoking mess

The fury of flames
Inside our wounds

All that we pray for
Is death to come soon

The fiery father will come out of the sky
He shall strike upon us who were born to fry
Out of despair into a mass suicide
Souls swept away by his nuclear tide

Our gods are dethroned
By a mushroom cloud

Dead but dreaming
Alone in a crowd

Reduced to ashes
Naked and cold

In the not too distant future
 

ChrisTillinen

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Finnish Christian hymns arranged in metal:



There's also this concept of "Metallimessu" where they are actually played during church services:


While I like good Christian metal, I don't personally feel the need to have it played in a church. But I'm not really against it either.