Christian Nationalism (This deserves it's own thread)

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ResidentAlien said:
When we talk about the US being founded as a Christian nation, we have to keep something important in mind. Native Americans lived in this land for thousands of years before the Europeans showed up. When people say the US was founded as a Christian nation, they mean brutal and violent Europeans calling themselves "Christians" stole the land from the natives, killed off the buffalo, and founded their new nation here. If that makes the US a Christian nation then I guess it is.
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Is that what you meant when you referred to America as a Christian nation (here <= link)?
 
In a nutshell, Christian nationalism is a reaction (overreaction really) to perceived threats to the US, primarily in the form of LGBTQ+ rights and the trans agenda. The problem: A satanic agenda designed to destroy the USA and bring down the wrath of God. The solution: Force people to shape up and turn to the gospel through the political and judicial processes.

There you have it.
 
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daisyseesthesun said:
I am confused about where all this talk of globalists comes from?
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In 2020 the WHO, an arm of the UN declared a worldwide emergency and shut down businesses and travel worldwide. In 2021 they pushed an experimental vaccine on the world. In 2023 they passed Agenda 2030, a 7 year covenant with 17 Sustainable Development Goals that were taken from the Paris accords. The whole world agreed to it then but no one has lived up to their pledge, so Agenda 2030 strengthens the agreement with a provision for a one world digital currency so they could monitor and control the buying of selling of everyone in the world. The provision is there but will not be enacted until there is a crisis. Then in 2024 they passed the Pact for the Future. This gives the UN supreme authority over every nation's government in the event of a crisis.

At this moment in the event of the crisis, and they are quite broad in their description of what that possible crisis might look like, in that event the UN will be that one world government.

You might reasonably think they can't do that! Or this is huge news, it should be on the front page of every paper! True, but the Lord told you the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night, creeping up in the dark. They don't want to put a spotlight on this, which some UN delegates described as the single biggest covenant ever made by the UN.
 
Christian nationalism is neither constitutional nor biblical. The Constitution makes it clear that there is not to be any one official state religion and nowhere in the Bible does it say Christianity is to be enforced by law.

As for globalism, it's not really a thing. We're not in the 1800s anymore. It's a global economy
 
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"Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to another episode of Is This Christian Nationalism? A show where a bunch of lunatics argue about a concept that has absolutely no functional definition whatsoever"

SonJudgment said:

Time for our favorite gameshow.
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ResidentAlien said:
In a nutshell, Christian nationalism is a reaction (overreaction really) to perceived threats to the US, primarily in the form of LGBTQ+ rights and the trans agenda. The problem: A satanic agenda designed to destroy the USA and bring down the wrath of God. The solution: Force people to shape up and turn to the gospel through the political and judicial processes.

There you have it.
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Ever heard of the Constitution?
It expressly says that there is not to be any one official state religion, which means you can't legally Force someone to follow Christianity.
You also can't force someone to believe something as that's not the way beliefs work.
It would be like someone threatening to beat me up. If I don't believe he's 47 ft tall. You can beat me up, but I still don't believe you

Also, nowhere in the Bible does it say Christianity is to be enforced by law?
 
SonJudgment said:
"Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to another episode of Is This Christian Nationalism? A show where a bunch of lunatics argue about a concept that has absolutely no functional definition whatsoever"
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Wasn't it later on suggested to; "build faith"?
 
Christian nationalists want politicians and laws that they believe will favor them, and not their perceived enemies. But there's a big problem with that: The politicians and the laws in the US are supposed to represent all Americans, not just those of one religious persuasion.
 
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Dude653 said:
Ever heard of the Constitution?
It expressly says that there is not to be any one official state religion, which means you can't legally Force someone to follow Christianity.
You also can't force someone to believe something as that's not the way beliefs work.
It would be like someone threatening to beat me up. If I don't believe he's 47 ft tall. You can beat me up, but I still don't believe you

Also, nowhere in the Bible does it say Christianity is to be enforced by law?
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You're preaching to the choir.
 
ResidentAlien said:
Christian nationalists want politicians and laws that they believe will favor them, and not their perceived enemies. But there's a big problem with that. The politicians and the laws in the US are supposed to represent all Americans, not just those of one religious persuasion.
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Right. And then they pretend to be persecuted when they don't get the privilege they want.
 
Dude653 said:
Also, nowhere in the Bible does it say Christianity is to be enforced by law?
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It is my understanding that nowhere does it say uniform Christianity is to be enforced by law since His people are to coexist and walk among the unbeliever (Phil 2:15). What it also does not say is that we conversely are to assume a posture of retreat in the face of present-day "evil" (Rm 13:4).
 
"Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, 'Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.' " Romans 12:19
 
"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you not to resist an evil person." Matthew 5:38-39
 
JTB said:
Yes, we were warned thousands of years ago that the world would move in this direction.

We should not act surprised to see it happening.
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Christians have never been the majority worldwide. Currently. It's about 31%
 
With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy...
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If you want Jesus to be President, you might be a Christian Nationalist.

If you want the Bible to be the codified law of the land, you might be a Christian Nationalist.

If you think all Americans should be forced to believe as you do, you might be a Christian Nationalist.

If you think those who believe differently than you should be silenced and jailed, you might be a Christian Nationalist.

If you think God would appoint someone who is the antithesis of His Ways to usher in Christian rule, you might be a Christian Nationalist.

If you think you can vote your way out from under future prophesy, you might be a Christian Nationalist.

If you think the Cross and the American flag belong together, you might be a Christian Nationalist.

If you think Jesus wore an "I love the USA" t-shirt, you might be a Christian Nationalist.

If you are looking for an earthly ruler to fix a spiritual problem, you might be a Christian Nationalist.
 
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ZNP said:
In 2020 the WHO, an arm of the UN declared a worldwide emergency and shut down businesses and travel worldwide. In 2021 they pushed an experimental vaccine on the world. In 2023 they passed Agenda 2030, a 7 year covenant with 17 Sustainable Development Goals that were taken from the Paris accords. The whole world agreed to it then but no one has lived up to their pledge, so Agenda 2030 strengthens the agreement with a provision for a one world digital currency so they could monitor and control the buying of selling of everyone in the world. The provision is there but will not be enacted until there is a crisis. Then in 2024 they passed the Pact for the Future. This gives the UN supreme authority over every nation's government in the event of a crisis.

At this moment in the event of the crisis, and they are quite broad in their description of what that possible crisis might look like, in that event the UN will be that one world government.

You might reasonably think they can't do that! Or this is huge news, it should be on the front page of every paper! True, but the Lord told you the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night, creeping up in the dark. They don't want to put a spotlight on this, which some UN delegates described as the single biggest covenant ever made by the UN.
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ZNP,
I don't understand all these conspiracy theories. I guess you can call me a simple person, but I see no profit in knowing what the globalists/antichrist(s) are doing on this earth. We all see the signs, and we all know Jesus is coming back soon. Now, somewhere in the bible, it says it's evil to want to ask for more time on this earth when God has other plans. Who are we to fight the globalist/antichrist (s). The bible doesn't say anything about fighting the government. '"1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God. 2Consequently, whoever resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves " Romans 13:1-2


How does knowing what the antichrist is going to do change anything? These people you guys listen to have the idea that you are going to fight this politically. But what does the Bible say: ' if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it. ' Jeremiah 18:8 We need a Revival
 
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