Christian Nationalist Movement in the United States

[SilverFox7]

It is in the best interests of the people, however, to always be skeptical of authority. It is "we the people", not "you the State".

Jefferson even went so far as to suggest that a revolution should happen every 20 years or so. (Someone got a more precise quote on that?) Now, I'd never go that far and I disagree with that extreme statement. However, his overall thought should be taken to heart, that people are corrupt, and therefore our institutions are open to morally falling apart as well.

Our government needs a complete overhaul (new blood and most of it needing to be conservative). I've studied organizational behavior and communication for decades, and I would classify the current state of our government as dysfunctional to be nice.

One good thing Trump has done is exposing how broken the judicial system is as well. These trials still dragging on into an election year is ridiculous. And, he is the leading candidate by far at this point. I'm sorry, you might as well just drop the trials, folks, until after Trump is no longer the leading candidate and the president if he is elected.

 

[Susanna]

Trump's home was raided for something that they refuse to go after Biden for. But, you knew that.

Giuliani's home was raided.

James O'Keefe's home was raided.

These are all people who oppose the Leftists. Meanwhile, Joe Biden also has classified docs, but he's not under any charges or indictment. James O'Keefe opposes the Leftists, questions the integrity of the 2020 election, and his home gets raided. Giuliani has a laptop with a journal or diary or something on it by someone attached to a Democrat (forget the details), and for this his home is raided.

In other news, Douglass Mackey writes a meme that gets him thrown into prison for 7 months. Kristina Wong, who did precisely the same thing as Mackey, but towards Republicans, is not even questioned.

People who were invited into, and later broke into the Capitol building (and evidence is mounting that there were at least 200 FBI agents in the crowd instigating them to do so), are STILL being held, three years later. But, people who burned our cities, killing 35 people and causing $2,000,000,000 in property damage are called peaceful protesters and facing nothing.

That this imbalance escapes you speaks volumes to the perspectives you've expressed here. You are obviously listening to your enemies in the media and trusting them. You obviously have liberal-ish leanings (I've seen your posts defending Black History Month). Your perspective is wrong and misguided, and this is truly troubling since you identify as a Christian.

Why don’t you stick to the subject at hand rather than questioning my character? Who gave you the right to do that?

 

[ResidentAlien]

One good thing Trump has done is exposing how broken the judicial system is as well.

You talkin' about the same Trump who just got fined $355 million for fraud and $83 million for sexual assault? That Trump? Maybe it was all a corrupt judicial system's fault. He surely couldn't have done anything wrong.

 

[SilverFox7]

You talkin' about the same Trump who just got fined $355 million for fraud and $83 million for sexual assault? That Trump? Maybe it was all a corrupt judicial system's fault. He surely couldn't have done anything wrong.

All of us know better than that, but these trials should have been addressed and finalized months/years ago.

Now, we're doing these during an election year? Smells bad.

 

[Susanna]

All of us know better than that, but these trials should have been addressed and finalized months/years ago.

Now, we're doing these during an election year? Smells bad.

If Trump and his team of lawyers haven’t done anything to halt the process you’re proven right.

 

[ResidentAlien]

All of us know better than that, but these trials should have been addressed and finalized months/years ago.

Now, we're doing these during an election year? Smells bad.

Yeah, Trump's always full of excuses. What I want to know is if the justice system can work on Fani Willis why is it corrupt when it comes to Donald Trump?

 

[SilverFox7]

Yeah, Trump's always full of excuses. What I want to know is if the justice system can work on Fani Willis why is it corrupt when it comes to Donald Trump?

My criticism is not corruption. It is ineffiency and waste in our justice processes and procedures.

Trump's "witch hunt" rhetoric is ridiculous, too.

 

[ResidentAlien]

And this idea has led many people to have a very wrong understanding of Christianity.

This isn't that far off the mark. I wonder what people from Central America think when they hear the US is a "Christian nation" and try to migrate here to escape horrible living conditions; and when they get here find "Christians" patrolling the border and forcing them to leave.

Now, I'm not advocating for open borders or anything like that; I'm just saying when you say you're a "Christian nation" then act this way it's pretty hypocritical, and gives people a distorted view of what Christianity is about.

 

[HeIsHere]

No, it's true that there's no such thing as an "ideal" communism, e.g., because there cannot be one. People aren't wired that way for such a system to exist for any length of time. Hitler's regime did allow private businesses to exist because socialism wasn't generating wealth (it's not a wealth-generation system, as he soon learned). But, you can rest assured that Volkswagen and others were not the ones barking orders to the regime, but instead had to follow the orders of it. Otherwise, they would have ceased to exist.

I refuse to label fascism as RW because I as a conservative have nothing in common with it. Nothing. Even in my nationalism I am not fascistic, because for the fascist, even nationalism is interpreted differently.

Ideology is not synonymous with "ideal" just like abstract is not concrete.

Anyway the line is correct as per classical political theory.

 

[notmyown]

If Trump and his team of lawyers haven’t done anything to halt the process you’re proven right.

if i get in trouble with the law, i'm in control of the court calendar? cool!

 

[HeIsHere]

Yeah, Trump's always full of excuses. What I want to know is if the justice system can work on Fani Willis why is it corrupt when it comes to Donald Trump?

That is a good point.

 

[EszterBH]

This isn't that far off the mark. I wonder what people from Central America think when they hear the US is a "Christian nation" and try to migrate here to escape horrible living conditions; and when they get here find "Christians" patrolling the border and forcing them to leave.

Now, I'm not advocating for open borders or anything like that; I'm just saying when you say you're a "Christian nation" then act this way it's pretty hypocritical, and gives people a distorted view of what Christianity is about.

I get what you say but we cant let all the masses enter and collapse our countries freely. This experiment failed miserably in Western Europe. Now women in countries like Germany or Sweden walk afraid of getting raped in the street and they cant even enter parts of cities that have never been dangerous, and expanding.

As a Hungarian woman Im very happy Orbán prevented this chaos from reaching Hungary. Right now its probably one of the safest countries for women (and men too) in the world.

 

[HeIsHere]

This isn't that far off the mark. I wonder what people from Central America think when they hear the US is a "Christian nation" and try to migrate here to escape horrible living conditions; and when they get here find "Christians" patrolling the border and forcing them to leave.

Now, I'm not advocating for open borders or anything like that; I'm just saying when you say you're a "Christian nation" then act this way it's pretty hypocritical, and gives people a distorted view of what Christianity is about.

Sounds like you are advocating for open borders actually.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I get what you say but we cant let all the masses enter and collapse our countries freely. This experiment failed miserably in Western Europe. Now women in countries like Germany or Sweden walk afraid of getting raped in the street and they cant even enter parts of cities that have never been dangerous, and expanding.

As a Hungarian woman Im very happy Orbán prevented this chaos from reaching Hungary. Right now its probably one of the safest countries for women (and men too) in the world.

I agree we shouldn't give free reign to anyone and everyone who wants to enter. However, it seems to me the Christian thing to do would be to establish a better system for vetting people; figure out the best way to accommodate as many people as possible in a sensible way; look for ways and reasons to let people in instead of looking for excuses to turn them back.

That's the Christian thing to do. But that's not what we see happening. Instead, armed guards stand ready to turn back as many people as possible, period. The reason for this is simple: the US isn't a Christian nation. Even the Christian nationalists who say loudly that the US is a Christian nation are the first ones to shout "kick 'em out!"

 

[HeIsHere]

I agree we shouldn't give free reign to anyone and everyone who wants to enter. However, it seems to me the Christian thing to do would be to establish a better system for vetting people; figure out the best way to accommodate as many people as possible in a sensible way; look for ways and reasons to let people in instead of looking for excuses to turn them back.

That's the Christian thing to do. But that's not what we see happening. Instead, armed guards stand ready to turn back as many people as possible, period. The reason for this is simple: the US isn't a Christian nation. Even the Christian nationalists who say loudly that the US is a Christian nation are the first ones to shout "kick 'em out!"

How about the way immigration was traditionally handled, has the government forgotten the process?

 

[ResidentAlien]

How about the way immigration was traditionally handled, has the government forgotten the process?

I don't know. Clue me in on what you mean by "traditionally handled?"

 

[Gojira]

Our government needs a complete overhaul (new blood and most of it needing to be conservative). I've studied organizational behavior and communication for decades, and I would classify the current state of our government as dysfunctional to be nice.

One good thing Trump has done is exposing how broken the judicial system is as well. These trials still dragging on into an election year is ridiculous. And, he is the leading candidate by far at this point. I'm sorry, you might as well just drop the trials, folks, until after Trump is no longer the leading candidate and the president if he is elected.

Watch for an assassination attempt. Our governmental personnel need an overhaul, but maybe we the people need that, since it is we who put them into power.

 

[Gojira]

Why don’t you stick to the subject at hand rather than questioning my character? Who gave you the right to do that?

Your posts.

And, I most certainly did address your question. To that you failed to respond.

 

[EszterBH]

I agree we shouldn't give free reign to anyone and everyone who wants to enter. However, it seems to me the Christian thing to do would be to establish a better system for vetting people; figure out the best way to accommodate as many people as possible in a sensible way; look for ways and reasons to let people in instead of looking for excuses to turn them back.

That's the Christian thing to do. But that's not what we see happening. Instead, armed guards stand ready to turn back as many people as possible, period. The reason for this is simple: the US isn't a Christian nation. Even the Christian nationalists who say loudly that the US is a Christian nation are the first ones to shout "kick 'em out!"

Im not aware of what the situation looks like in America and if something like what you said could be done there, so I wont comment for this country.

But in Hungary I cant see any alternative that will not risk the survival of the country. Hungary is a small country with a declining population, a high rate of youth emigration and a high mortality rate that will continue increasing as the population ages, and some parts of the country are already having problems with demographic replacement by the gypsy population, which is on the contrary booming and usually unwilling to integrate and prone to crime (neighboring countries also have this problem). So letting the masses in could turn absolutely fatal for Hungary, a civil war could even break out in matter of decades with these demographics. For Hungary and other countries in the region turning them back is our only wise option.

 

[Susanna]

if i get in trouble with the law, i'm in control of the court calendar? cool!

No, but the judge can grant a reasonable postponement and defense lawyers will be motioning for that, especially if the defendant is not in custody.