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homwardbound said:
I am sorry your name fits you rewriter
God just loves us all, otherwise Son would not have gone to that cross at all willingly, you think, I know God loves us all
Thank you Father and Son as Won for usb all to choose to rely 100% on you
Thank you
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I admit to one bad habit, that is when a supposedly mighty entity speaks with a booming voice and a lot of smoke and tells me not to look behind the curtain, I get awfully curious as to why such a mighty entity is worried about me looking behind a curtain. Sometimes looking behind the curtain reveals that things are different than a supposed mighty entity wants people to believe.

Do you look behind the curtain, or do you obey the voice that tells you not to?
 
rewriter said:
Having teachers is not the same as having insight. Nothing in scripture denies Jesus as having had teachers, just that he, at age 12, had not had the formal training which would be unlikely at age 12, no matter how wealthy. Billionair's children do not get into Harvard or MIT at age 12 unless they are very unusual, so one would not expect them to have that kind of knowledge.

That other people contributed to Jesus's ministry likewise says nothing. You are assuming that if his family had money that Jesus would rely on it, yet Jesus taught that one should give away surplus, so to be consistent, He would have dispensed of His excess wewalth and then need others to support Him.

You are letting your assumptions dictate your responses rather than thinking things through. Scripture does not tell us the full facts, but it does give some hints. Ignoring those hints because it does not fit with what you want is not helpful to anyone.
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It’s more like you’re assuming things that Scripture doesn’t elude to, and twisting to fit an ill narrative.

John 7 states that He was not schooled in letters. By this chapter, He is a Rabbi.

* "Now about the middle of the feast Jesus went up into the temple and taught. And the Jews marveled, saying, "How does this Man know letters, having never studied?"
Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority."
John 7:14-17 NKJV
 
TruthDefender said:
It’s more like you’re assuming things that Scripture doesn’t elude to, and twisting to fit an ill narrative.

John 7 states that He was not schooled in letters. By this chapter, He is a Rabbi.

* "Now about the middle of the feast Jesus went up into the temple and taught. And the Jews marveled, saying, "How does this Man know letters, having never studied?"
Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority."
John 7:14-17 NKJV
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Are you relying on the English translation or are you looking at the original Greek language? In Greek I find the passage referring to Jesus teaching something not taught as opposed to not having an education. Einstein came up with things not taught even though he had had an education.
 
rewriter said:
Are you relying on the English translation or are you looking at the original Greek language? In Greek I find the passage referring to Jesus teaching something not taught as opposed to not having an education. Einstein came up with things not taught even though he had had an education.
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Of course I’m reading the NKJV, which always has that version stamped at the end of my quotes. Have you never noticed?!?
 
rewriter said:
Are you relying on the English translation or are you looking at the original Greek language? In Greek I find the passage referring to Jesus teaching something not taught as opposed to not having an education. Einstein came up with things not taught even though he had had an education.
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Of course I’m reading the NKJV, which always has that version stamped at the end of my quotes. Have you never noticed?!? I’m not just pulling it out of a rabbit hole!

I don’t speak first century koinet (sp?) Greek. I feel that you dismiss verses that prove your ideas are incorrect.

Anyway, I’m done discussing something that really doesn’t matter as much. Moving on….

What matters is the gospel, and that narrow road that we are supposed to be hiking on.
 
rewriter said:
I admit to one bad habit, that is when a supposedly mighty entity speaks with a booming voice and a lot of smoke and tells me not to look behind the curtain, I get awfully curious as to why such a mighty entity is worried about me looking behind a curtain. Sometimes looking behind the curtain reveals that things are different than a supposed mighty entity wants people to believe.

Do you look behind the curtain, or do you obey the voice that tells you not to?
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Temptation is from satan. God is not tempted or tempts anyone, thanks
Every person's relationship is either God Father and risen Son for them or of the self or of some other flesh leading them. As no other flesh and blood will ever please God Father after Son has done that once for all. Romans 8:1-3

God stands in loving us all first. proven in Son as risen for us all to believe or not, to me anyways. I hope the same for all
Because God loved us first as said in 1 John 4. We love because God loved us first. This love is for all, not just those we might choose, because they were good to us, This love includes all, even those that have done wrong one to another.
I saw one day I wanted to accuse another, that had done me wrong. I heard God ask me why? I said did you not see what that other person has done to me?
God said as I have seen you have done the same to others too! I put my hand over my mouth, was stopped cold in my tracks. Now I see what this love for all really is. I see I have no right ever to accuse, abuse or excuse anything anymore

Thanking God for the risen Son Jesus for us all 1 John 2:1-27. I still hate wrong, do not ever care to do any wrong to, anyone, yet I have as in Romans 2:1-4, Romans 14:1-4 I see new from Father through risen Son given me to just continue to love in mercy and truth as God has done for all since day one in the first Adam deeply in Son John 13:34
 
I believe as scripture supports that Jesus was led by the Holy Spirit into all the interactions he addressed.
Jesus said he says nothing but what the father tells him, and does nothing but what the father does.
There were often times Jesus had to experience the limitations of man as in not all healings took place.
Jesus never took action of his own but only that which was directed by the father.
Being taught the traditions and customs of the Jewish culture and celebrations keeping Gods word for the right reason to worship and bring thanksgiving and glory to the father.
His knowledge grew as his obedience to the father increased to total surrender.
All are a example to us as our walk should be as his was.
Jesus lived day by day being led by the spirit giving no anxious thoughts for tomorrow. Depending on the father only.
 
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God-fearing said:
I believe as scripture supports that Jesus was led by the Holy Spirit into all the interactions he addressed.
Jesus said he says nothing but what the father tells him, and does nothing but what the father does.
There were often times Jesus had to experience the limitations of man as in not all healings took place.
Jesus never took action of his own but only that which was directed by the father.
Being taught the traditions and customs of the Jewish culture and celebrations keeping Gods word for the right reason to worship and bring thanksgiving and glory to the father.
His knowledge grew as his obedience to the father increased to total surrender.
All are a example to us as our walk should be as his was.
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A fact poured out in the final sacrifice of shed blood, reading Hebrews 10 clears it up for me
I and my Father require mercy over sacrifices
The literal Law, physically, steals, kills and destroys, where as the risen Son brings new life in Daddy's, Father's Spirit and Truth for us too. All that choose to believe God, between God and them in their own prayer closets. God takes in and trains each new in the love and mercy of Son given first. thank you

1 John 4:17-19
 
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