Christianity, the most offensive, confusing, violent, hypocritical, faith of all.

[atwhatcost]

Christianity, the word derives from to be christ like has been the most offensive religion the world has ever known. From bombing abortion clinics, to taking up arms to fight isis in the name of Christ. From the crusades to anti semitisim Christianity is by far the hardest religion to understand. I am a christian and though I take no part in any of the above I ask God to forgive those that do, regardless of what is true and holy saints these are our roots. No wonder our effects on this world are becoming null and void. Not that we should ever give up but the body of Christ needs Christ more than ever before. If we were given the privilege of the great commission, to have stewardship untill the master comes back then we need to repent and ask forgiveness. We need to return to our first love and stop fighting among ourselves. We have become to arrogant, shallow, but most importantly we do not love as we should. Love is the most powerful message we could ever send to this fallen world. I think one of the most important stories in the bible is when Mary, Joseph, and Jesus went to the temple and they lost Jesus......ya see even though they were doing what God had asked and what was good ...their eyes were off Jesus.

Saints let us pray without ceasing for the body of Christ. Peace

Okay, I admit it. I was so shocked by your post I had to go away to cool off.

Here's how I see it. (And this is cooled off.)

So you pray for the Crusaders, those who will fight ISIS, and those who will physically fight abortionists? Well aren't you something special? But why? The crusaders have been dead a very long time now. Those fighting tyranny embarrass you? Yikes! Those who fight for the right to live for those who can't fight for themselves embarasses you? That's so sad.

I'm really wondering if you're missing the whole point of the great commission and are, instead, replacing it with Americanism?

I do admit being considered as part of the KKK doesn't thrill me, but I also know it's not true. That's just simply the junk the world piles in front on us to pretend were all that nuts.

In truth, I get why the world does that. They hate God, therefore hate us for loving God.

That doesn't explain to me why you hate other Christians though. It really doesn't make you special. It makes you seem like you've fallen for the American propaganda of what a christian is supposed to be.

 

[JFSurvivor]

Christianity, the word derives from to be christ like has been the most offensive religion the world has ever known. From bombing abortion clinics, to taking up arms to fight isis in the name of Christ. From the crusades to anti semitisim Christianity is by far the hardest religion to understand. I am a christian and though I take no part in any of the above I ask God to forgive those that do, regardless of what is true and holy saints these are our roots. No wonder our effects on this world are becoming null and void. Not that we should ever give up but the body of Christ needs Christ more than ever before. If we were given the privilege of the great commission, to have stewardship untill the master comes back then we need to repent and ask forgiveness. We need to return to our first love and stop fighting among ourselves. We have become to arrogant, shallow, but most importantly we do not love as we should. Love is the most powerful message we could ever send to this fallen world. I think one of the most important stories in the bible is when Mary, Joseph, and Jesus went to the temple and they lost Jesus......ya see even though they were doing what God had asked and what was good ...their eyes were off Jesus.

Saints let us pray without ceasing for the body of Christ. Peace

I honestly love what you are saying and I get it. The only thing I don't understand is why do you think fighting isis is bad?

 

[atwhatcost]

You false christian! How dare you come to a christian site and talk “bull”. you claim to be a christian but yet you portray the true religion as an offensive, confusing, violent and hypocritical religion. only a fool who is hell bound will listen to you. FYI... those that were involved in the crusades and those other violence you mentioned are false Christians sects and false christians like you. no true christian will live by the sword. the bible says in Matthew 26:52“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
Matthew 5:39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.

Who's doing the face slapping here, if not you?

I, at least, give bondservant the benefit of a doubt, and assumed the title was an attention seeking ploy.

 

[JFSurvivor]

Okay, I admit it. I was so shocked by your post I had to go away to cool off.

Here's how I see it. (And this is cooled off.)

So you pray for the Crusaders, those who will fight ISIS, and those who will physically fight abortionists? Well aren't you something special? But why? The crusaders have been dead a very long time now. Those fighting tyranny embarrass you? Yikes! Those who fight for the right to live for those who can't fight for themselves embarasses you? That's so sad.

I'm really wondering if you're missing the whole point of the great commission and are, instead, replacing it with Americanism?

I do admit being considered as part of the KKK doesn't thrill me, but I also know it's not true. That's just simply the junk the world piles in front on us to pretend were all that nuts.

In truth, I get why the world does that. They hate God, therefore hate us for loving God.

That doesn't explain to me why you hate other Christians though. It really doesn't make you special. It makes you seem like you've fallen for the American propaganda of what a christian is supposed to be.

What are you talking about? I think the main point of his post was that Christians have fallen away from the original message of the Gospel and replaced it with this false, violent, politically charged Christianity. I think the main point is that Christians don't love like they used to and that it's a tragedy.

Why is it every time a post like this comes up we all start pointing fingers instead of looking at ourselves and how we can be better. The ones who do the finger pointing are the ones who need this message the most.

 

[Galahad]

Nominal Christians are Christians in name only. They do not possess real faith. The crimes that were the topic of the initial post were perpetrated largely by nominal Christians. I think the rest of the post made my meaning clear.

Sparkman,
I am a bit surprised. Really.

And whose post are you defending? Yours or the OP? Please choose one. One at a time. Either defend the blasphemy or defend your obscurity. There's a third choice.

Words. Christian. Follower of Christ. Christianity, a religion established by Christ, a following of Christ's teaching.

I won't repeat the first sentence of the OP again. I've reported it.

Are you so loose in your thinking and so hooked on contemporary attitudes that you can't recognize blasphemy against Christ.
The OP blasts Christ, His teaching, His followers. Blast one of those, you do the same to the others.

You've added an adjective to Christianity. Why? A dodge.

Absurd. If I weren't reading it, I wouldn't believe it.

Let me see, What's my religion? Christian.
What does that mean? Oh, it means I follow Christ.
And it means I belong to the most _______ _________ religion the world has ever known.

That's asinine of asinine.

 

[Galahad]

I honestly love what you are saying and I get it. The only thing I don't understand is why do you think fighting isis is bad?

Can you explain what you get?

What is it about the first statement that you LOVE? Please try to include some information beyond fluff. Looking for definition of words.

Do you agree or disagree with this: "I am both a Christian and Muslim?" Can you explain your answer?

The only thing you don't understand is why bonds thinks fighting isis is bad. You understand the rest of the post, but not that.

That prepares me.

 

[Yonah]

want to know the root of the problem with any faith that has adopted error as part of truth? Jer 6:16
Thus said יהוה, "Stand in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths, where the good way is, and walk in it; and find rest for yourselves. But they said, ‘We do not walk in it.’

 

[MarcR]

Christianity, the word derives from to be christ like has been the most offensive religion the world has ever known. From bombing abortion clinics, to taking up arms to fight isis in the name of Christ. From the crusades to anti semitisim Christianity is by far the hardest religion to understand. I am a christian and though I take no part in any of the above I ask God to forgive those that do, regardless of what is true and holy saints these are our roots. No wonder our effects on this world are becoming null and void. Not that we should ever give up but the body of Christ needs Christ more than ever before. If we were given the privilege of the great commission, to have stewardship untill the master comes back then we need to repent and ask forgiveness. We need to return to our first love and stop fighting among ourselves. We have become to arrogant, shallow, but most importantly we do not love as we should. Love is the most powerful message we could ever send to this fallen world. I think one of the most important stories in the bible is when Mary, Joseph, and Jesus went to the temple and they lost Jesus......ya see even though they were doing what God had asked and what was good ...their eyes were off Jesus.

Saints let us pray without ceasing for the body of Christ. Peace

I think that part of the problem is that not that labels itself Christian really is Christian.

If I walk into a garage and call myself a car; I still cant run down a freeway at 65MPH.

ANYTHING that by doctrine or action consistently does things contrary to Biblical teachings is not Christian; regardless what it calls itself.

They who did or do the things you speak of are not Christian ( except for opposing ISIS)

 

[oldthennew]

yes,
satan will rail through many of which he has a-hold -
they will be quite bold in the critizing - but they will be blind in realizing
Who is pulling their strings......

 

[Galahad]

Here it is. I should have copied and pasted it to begin with: Christianity, the most offensive, confusing, violent, hypocritical, faith of all.

That statement comes from one who identifies himself as Christian!

All you've done Bonds is darken the name of Christ.

Attributing evil to the following of Christ, sickening.

 

[Siberian_Khatru]

Kind of depends on which religion we're talking about.

We might take umbrage to a particular religion (or two, or three...) because it goes against our values, but it's more or less the practices that are exercised that offend. Religion is just the word we give to a set of beliefs and observances as a way of identifying with them. There are plenty of offensive brothers and sisters in Christ, just as there are plenty of them that are absolutely delightful.

I believe it's subjective to the individuals, not the collective.

 

[JFSurvivor]

Can you explain what you get?

What is it about the first statement that you LOVE? Please try to include some information beyond fluff. Looking for definition of words.

Do you agree or disagree with this: "I am both a Christian and Muslim?" Can you explain your answer?

The only thing you don't understand is why bonds thinks fighting isis is bad. You understand the rest of the post, but not that.

That prepares me.

I like how you can see that Christianity is about more than this politically charged agenda that the church is pushing on us. I like how you see that there is something very wrong because there is. I also like how you can see that love is essential and that Jesus is so needed.

I can't see how you can be a Christian and a Muslim at the same time. Muslims believe in Allah and Christians believe in God. They are not the same. God sent his son to die on the cross Allah did not. If you look at the Koran it is kind of like a backwards Bible. In the Koran Jesus is supposed to come back with some other guy. This reminds me of the False prophet and the anti-Christ for one example. Another example is in the Koran there will be two bad guys who come and try to thwart Allah's plans and in the Bible there are two witnesses that are going to be killed for their faith. In both books these witnesses breathe fire.

 

[Willie-T]

Willie,
He did. The blasphemy lies within the word Christianity. What is Christianity? The following of Christ.

Christ created Christianity.

Here's his statement: Christianity, the word derives from to be christ like has been the most offensive religion the world has ever known.

I will restate it: The word Christianity derives from this To Be Christ Like. Christianity has been the most offensive religion the world has ever known.

That's blasphemy. It speaks evil of the way of Christ.

Even what you quoted here shows his point... that we have adoped a name Jesus never used... making ourselves a new religion, to which we have added rule after rule, and often made into an exclusionary club.... and His intention was never to start yet another "religion" for us to make the object of worship.

What we moderns clamor after and protect as being somehow "sacred", is just a convoluted, and nearly "lost" form of what Jesus meant for us to live..... the church community of the late 1800's and the early to mid 1900's. Seriously... if we were to describe "the Christian church", we all know we would NOT describe the original Apostolic church. We would envision our parent's or grandparent's style of meeting house religion. (And people from Jesus' time would not even recognize THAT as anything near how they worshiped.)

 

[Galahad]

What are you talking about? I think the main point of his post was that Christians have fallen away from the original message of the Gospel and replaced it with this false, violent, politically charged Christianity. I think the main point is that Christians don't love like they used to and that it's a tragedy.

Why is it every time a post like this comes up we all start pointing fingers instead of looking at ourselves and how we can be better. The ones who do the finger pointing are the ones who need this message the most.

Christians don't love like they used to and that it's a tragedy.
That's what happens when you defend stupidity.

But let's see.
Here's a statement from the OP: From bombing abortion clinics, to taking up arms to fight isis in the name of Christ. From the crusades to anti semitisim.

So Christians don't love like they used to!

Christians don't love like they used to. How do you know this? What evidence do you have to support this statement?

The ones who do the finger pointing are the ones who need this message the most.
Again, you defend stupid, you become.

Finger pointing! Let me point your attention right back to the OP!

 

[atwhatcost]

What are you talking about? I think the main point of his post was that Christians have fallen away from the original message of the Gospel and replaced it with this false, violent, politically charged Christianity. I think the main point is that Christians don't love like they used to and that it's a tragedy.

Why is it every time a post like this comes up we all start pointing fingers instead of looking at ourselves and how we can be better. The ones who do the finger pointing are the ones who need this message the most.

Which part of what he wrote am I to compare myself with?

Christianity, the word derives from to be christ like has been the most offensive religion the world has ever known. From bombing abortion clinics, to taking up arms to fight isis in the name of Christ. From the crusades to anti semitisim Christianity is by far the hardest religion to understand. I am a christian and though I take no part in any of the above I ask God to forgive those that do, regardless of what is true and holy saints these are our roots. No wonder our effects on this world are becoming null and void. Not that we should ever give up but the body of Christ needs Christ more than ever before. If we were given the privilege of the great commission, to have stewardship untill the master comes back then we need to repent and ask forgiveness. We need to return to our first love and stop fighting among ourselves. We have become to arrogant, shallow, but most importantly we do not love as we should. Love is the most powerful message we could ever send to this fallen world. I think one of the most important stories in the bible is when Mary, Joseph, and Jesus went to the temple and they lost Jesus......ya see even though they were doing what God had asked and what was good ...their eyes were off Jesus.

Saints let us pray without ceasing for the body of Christ. Peace

He's embarrassed about this past he speaks of. He is embarrassed to think any Christian will ever fight a crusade, attack ISIS or bomb an abortion clinic. He thinks these actions are a stain on Christ. He thinks he is above this and that christianity is to be reduced to going along to get along. He asks God to forgive those people because they miss what God is saying. Exactly what part of this am I supposed to examine myself about? I am not embarrassed that Christians fought against false religions, fight against tyranny, and fight to save an unborn baby's life.

He's certainly not talking about falling away from the gospel. He's talking about fitting into the world's standards. Sorry. Not gonna. Not ever by the strength of God in me.

 

[notuptome]

Well Christians are certainly not perfect but what would you suggest as better? Islam? The government? One of the Eastern religions? There must be something which the OP sees as better?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Willie-T]

Well Christians are certainly not perfect but what would you suggest as better? Islam? The government? One of the Eastern religions? There must be something which the OP sees as better?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Jesus..........

 

[Willie-T]

You know how this forum attacks Catholics about defending "their religion?"

Well, just listen a little......... It's a similar song I'm hearing right now.

 

[Galahad]

Even what you quoted here shows his point... that we have adoped a name Jesus never used... making ourselves a new religion, to which we have added rule after rule, and often made into an exclusionary club.... and His intention was never to start yet another "religion" for us to make the object of worship.

What we moderns clamor after and protect as being somehow "sacred", is just a convoluted, and nearly "lost" form of what Jesus meant for us to live..... the church community of the late 1800's and the early to mid 1900's. Seriously... if we were to describe "the Christian church", we all know we would NOT describe the original Apostolic church. We would envision our parent's or grandparent's style of meeting house religion. (And people from Jesus' time would not even recognize THAT as anything near how they worshiped.)

Willie
What are you referring to in this -
Even what you quoted here shows his point... that we have adoped a name Jesus never used...

(Have to sign out. Will respond later. Thank you.)

 

[JFSurvivor]

Which part of what he wrote am I to compare myself with?

He's embarrassed about this past he speaks of. He is embarrassed to think any Christian will ever fight a crusade, attack ISIS or bomb an abortion clinic. He thinks these actions are a stain on Christ. He thinks he is above this and that christianity is to be reduced to going along to get along. He asks God to forgive those people because they miss what God is saying. Exactly what part of this am I supposed to examine myself about? I am not embarrassed that Christians fought against false religions, fight against tyranny, and fight to save an unborn baby's life.

He's certainly not talking about falling away from the gospel. He's talking about fitting into the world's standards. Sorry. Not gonna. Not ever by the strength of God in me.

Yes abortion is bad. Exscuse me, I mean MURDER is bad just like bombing abortion clinics which ultimatly results in DEATH! If you want to protest abortion go pray outside a clinic.

Jesus is more than politics. Jesus is more than looking at us and our flaws. He looks at us and says "that's my child" so why do most Christians, if we are children of God with a perfect parent, act like spoild brats?