Christians and suicide

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Also, Matthew 10:22 is not Doctrinally for the Church Age, but rather it is for the time of Jacob's trouble.

Mat 10:1 Jesus called together his twelve disciples. He gave them the power to force out evil spirits and to heal every kind of disease and sickness.

The whole chapter is addressed to his disciples and what they did. There is no mention of Jacob whatsoever and there was no disciple named Jacob.
 
Those Scriptures which I gave (Eph. 1:13 & 4:30) do prove the eternal security of the born again believer. Therefore all Christians have Eternal Salvation.

Eph 1:13 in whom also you, hearing the Word of Truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also believing you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed to the day of redemption.

Where does it say anything about eternal security? it says we are sealed with the Holy Spirit but as we know seals can be broken or opened. That is what happens when we don't endure to the end.

Apart from the fact that you don't build a doctrine on one or two verses of scripture. You take the whole counsel of God and then decide what is being said, which you have not done.

To say this is what God says and then to ignore the scriptures that say the opposite is not exegesis, it is eisegesis and shows a fear of allowing the spirit of God to speak to you his full revelation about a topic.
 
I know I cant do anything like that, have to stick around for my wife and others, got to trust God, but I can completely understand why some people just give up, you get to the point where everything is always going wrong, with no end, and you can't see a way out, it feels like God has abandoned you, and you want it to stop before you go crazy. I'm glad I have God there and others because I might have checked out a long time ago. I've been there, it sucks, really really bad, but I have reasons to be around now. I think spending all these years searching for my daughter,only to have her say she hates me and never wants to speak to me again, that would have pushed me over the edge, thats the most horrible feeling in the world, makes you feel your life is worthless
 
I would never wish for anyone to be at that point, you have to have faith to keep you going, so when those storms hit, you can weather them, because you never know. If anyone has found this page by searching suicide, like the song says DON"T GIVE UP!! all suicide does is make sure things never get better. please listen to this song. I feel tonight someone will come here who needs to hear it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtSKzHxVqxQ
 
Hear ME! You have it all! You forever! Your eternity. You love happiness! You are with God forever always God has you with him.
 
ok ... this is a bit to much here
i will tale you my point of view

the bible clearly says : no murderer will enter the kingdom of god no ?
ok so people if they comit suicide , that means they murder their own body wich is the same thing as murder!

trust me i know people that comited suicide and i am very sorry for them because they will be in hell for eternity.
it is very sad that some people do this. christian or not christian is the same.
why do you deceive yourselfs ? it is clearly writen in the bible : no lier , adulterr , murderer or blasphemer will enter the kingom of god !.

How can you repent of your sin if you are already dead ?
Some think that if you sin , is ok you are still forgiven .... this is where many are wrong .
If you sin .. YES you have a sin but you have to repent
If you do not repent of that sin and you die then you go to hell
This is the sad truth .
This is not to scare some people or to start a flame war . This is the reallity of what is going on
So many people even christian say : oh don`t worry ... god will forgive , god will be mercyful , but i tale you : do not be deceived by the devil who wants you to do that thing and take you to hell.
God is a loving god but he must judge sin !
How can a sinner that just died 1 minute ago and did not repent of that sin go to heaven ?
It is clearly said in the bible : no sinner will enter the kingdom of god !
YOU cannot repent after death.
YOU cannot ask for god to forgive you of sins after you died
Repenting of sin is here and now while still alive
There it will be TO LATE

thank you
 
Many theologians and religions adamantly have long dismissed any suggestion that the resurrection of the unrighteous may include those who commit suicide. As far as the ones who took their own lives, we humans cannot judge as to whether he will get a resurrection or not. I am only aware of four instances-in the Bible-where suicide is mentioned: 1 Samuel 31:17; 2 Samuel 17:23; 1 Kings 16:8-20; Matthew 27:5. As for Judas, we can discern that there will be no resurrection hope. See Mark 14:21; John 17:12; Hebrews 10:26.

Life is a gift from God, not something to be abused or to end at one’s own hand. (James 1:17) Hence, the Scriptures encourage us to see ourselves, not as immortal souls, but as valuable creations of the God who loves us, who treasures our being alive, and who looks forward with joy to the time of the resurrection. (Job 14:14, 15) Jehovah, having paid “a ransom in exchange for many,” is within his right to extend mercy, even to some self-murderers, by resurrecting them and giving them the precious opportunity to “repent and turn to God by doing works that befit repentance.”-Acts 26:20.

Granted, one who takes his own life deprives themselves of the opportunity to repent of their self-murder. But who can say whether one driven to suicide might have had a change of heart had his fatal attempt failed? Some notorious murderers have, in fact, changed and earned God’s forgiveness during their lifetimes. (2 Kings 21:16; 2 Chronicles 33:12, 13) They, like us, will still need the “ransom” to lift ourselves to perfection; and, judgment will be determined by what we do after the resurrection is complete.-1 John 4:8-10.

While suicide is never righteous and cannot be justified, it is comforting to remember that the future prospects of our loved ones rest with a God who fully understands that weaknesses and frailties such as mental illness, extreme stress, depression, and genetic defects could push one to such desperate action. He “well knows the formation of us, remembering that we are dust.” (Psalm 103:11-14) God alone searches “all hearts and every inclination of the thoughts.” (1 Chronicles 28:9) But we may be confident that “the Judge of all the earth is going to do what is loving, just, and right!”-Genesis 18:25.

The apostle Paul did hold out a beautiful hope for even some unrighteous ones. As he told a Roman court of law: “I have hope toward God…that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.”-Acts 24:15.