Christians take up arms against Muslim Jihadists.

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It's called self-defense, not revenge, which is an entirely legitimate biblical use of force. The spiritual integrity, courage, and heart of these 600 shame the typical nominal "Christian" in the West who's more concerned with what restaurant they're going to eat in after the church service is finished.

The Obama Administration won't help them. He's busy helping the other side with your tax dollars.

"Do not be far from me, for trouble is near and there is no one to help." - Psalm 22:11

"Blessed be the Lord my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under me." - Psalm 144:1-2

"In you I trust, O my God. Do not let me be put to shame, nor let my enemies triumph over me" - Psalm 25:2

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crossnote said:
I don't think this is our call unless...

Muslims Rape Christian Women - 600 Christians Take Up Arms And Make One Final And Heroic Stand Against Muslim Jihadists : Freedom Outpost
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crossnote said:
I don't think this is our call unless...

Muslims Rape Christian Women - 600 Christians Take Up Arms And Make One Final And Heroic Stand Against Muslim Jihadists : Freedom Outpost
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I am sorry, but to be very clear.....It is one thing to give your head to the (charger) for the cause of Christ as John did.....but...It is an entirely different thing when a gang of bloody, deceitful men are raping a woman in front of you because she is Christian.....ALL I can say is I hope the Muslim men are 223 proof!
 
Definitely NOT .223 proof. That's a good thing.

dcontroversal said:
I am sorry, but to be very clear.....It is one thing to give your head to the (charger) for the cause of Christ as John did.....but...It is an entirely different thing when a gang of bloody, deceitful men are raping a woman in front of you because she is Christian.....ALL I can say is I hope the Muslim men are 223 proof!
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It really gets my goat when people say most Muslims aren't violent, hateful people. Excuse me! Tell that to the millions of persecuted Christians around the world! They'll tell you otherwise.
 
Tintin said:
It really gets my goat when people say most Muslims aren't violent, hateful people. Excuse me! Tell that to the millions of persecuted Christians around the world! They'll tell you otherwise.
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Here is where I will disagree with you. I spent a few months in the middle east back in 2007. Most of the people, who would self identify as muslim, treated me well, were extremely hospitable, and the worst I can accuse them of doing to me is being overly insistent and attentive when trying to sell me something.

Now the two facts we need to acknowledge are

1) that much of the religiously motivated violence done involves Muslims usually as the aggressors (statistics will bear this out and I will hunt some down if anyone wants to argue the point).

2) Islam is a massive religion with over 1 billion people. If only 1% of them become violent murderous terrorists that is 10 million terrorists. It's huge in terms of numbers (especially if they are scattered across the world in groups of 50 to 100) but the fact would be that even with 10 million muslim terrorists only 1% of Muslims are violent terrorists. So 99% of Muslims would not be terrorists.

Please note that most of my numbers are made up for illustrative purposes only. The point is to illustrate how there could both be many peaceful want to get on with their own lives and not bother anyone Muslims and yet still so much violence perpetrated in the name of Islam. That is not to in any way validate the claims that Islam is a peaceful religion since violence, spreading the faith by force, and jihad are all well supported by the Koran and it is used to defend such actions. But just as many in the West who call themselves Christian do not live it out, so many who call themselves Muslims are not actively involved in acts of terrorism (why don't they oppose them? Because the terrorists are their next door neighbors and not much money is spent to protect fellow Muslims from terrorists. Also if the Koranically based arguments are solid, they look like bad Muslims for being opposed).
 
Okay, maybe not most, but certainly many are. I read Barnabas Prayer devotionals and the absolute vast majority of persecution for Christians is committed by Muslims. Yes, Islam has many followers, but it's far more than 1% or even 10% that are committing such evils. I'm not saying all Muslims are like that, but it seems those who properly follow the Qur'an definitely are. In the Western World, even the false religions are watered-down to mean almost nothing.
 
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Except that your percentage is wrong. Polling shows that the percentage of Muslims engaged in terrorist activities and those who directly support them in the commission of those activities are 15% of the aggregate Muslim demographic. Those who feel Islamic violence is justified to spread Islam is over half. We've posted the studies, polls, and data here at CC many times.

Now there are 1.6 billion Muslims not 1 billion and they represent about 23% of the world's population. 15% of 1.6 billion equals 240 million. The reason for the large number of Muslims that support or condone violence to further/defend Islam has to do with violence (and slavery) being justified in Islamic religious epstemology including even aggressive violence solely to further the spread of Islam.

Be glad that many Muslims are nominal and the residual Imago Dei still resides in the unregenerate or it would be MUCH worse.




cinder said:
2) Islam is a massive religion with over 1 billion people. If only 1% of them become violent murderous terrorists that is 10 million terrorists. It's huge in terms of numbers (especially if they are scattered across the world in groups of 50 to 100) but the fact would be that even with 10 million muslim terrorists only 1% of Muslims are violent terrorists. So 99% of Muslims would not be terrorists.
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AgeofKnowledge said:
Except that your percentage is wrong. Polling shows that the percentage of Muslims engaged in terrorist activities and those who directly support them in the commission of those activities are 15% of the aggregate Muslim demographic. Those who feel Islamic violence is justified to spread Islam is over half. We've posted the studies, polls, and data here at CC many times.

Be glad that many Muslims are nominal and the residual Imago Dei still resides in the unregenerate or it would be MUCH worse.
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Thank you for the accurate statistics. My original point was that there are many nominal muslims who are not violent or hateful (at least not more than your average person). To imply that most are violent and hateful is simply not accurate. I said before and I will reiterate that I am not defending Islam as a philosophy or religion, just wanting to keep us from putting up barriers to loving our Muslim neighbors as ourselves (and to anyone who wants to argue that they are enemies not neighbors, well Jesus told us to love our enemies as well).
 
Sure, I understand what you are saying. The false religious cult of Islam is irreparable but those deceived by it need God's salvation in Christ as much as any lost person does. They are a mission field.

It's just that they are a mission field that identifies with a false religious system that teaches it's adherents that submitting the world of non-Muslims to the non existent deity they call Allah and their fabricated oppressive stone-age sharia legal system through political, religious, and violent means is OK as is human slavery.

The latter point means they need to be defended against as well as evangelized.


cinder said:
Thank you for the accurate statistics. My original point was that there are many nominal muslims who are not violent or hateful (at least not more than your average person). To imply that most are violent and hateful is simply not accurate. I said before and I will reiterate that I am not defending Islam as a philosophy or religion, just wanting to keep us from putting up barriers to loving our Muslim neighbors as ourselves (and to anyone who wants to argue that they are enemies not neighbors, well Jesus told us to love our enemies as well).
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"Fears are growing for the 300 Yazidi women reportedly kidnapped by Islamic State fighters last week amid claims they would be used to bear children to break up the ancient sect's bloodline.

The minority group is originally Aryan and has retained a fairer complexion, blonde hair and blue eyes by only marrying within the community.

But in a furious bid to convert all non-Muslims, ISIS jihadists have vowed to impregnate the hostages.

Some 45,000 Yazidi refugees have finally been able to escape from Mount Sinjar after U.S. air strikes and a fightback by Kurdish forces appeared to have broken the ten-day siege by Islamic militants.

However, as the women remain trapped, Kurdish militia are calling on Western forces to give them arms rather than plotting rescue missions.

Addressing the kidnapping, Adnan Kochar, chairman of the Kurdish Cultural Centre in London, told MailOnline: 'The Kurds and Yazidis are originally Aryans. But because the Yazidis are such a closed community they have retained a fairer complexion, blonder hair and bluer eyes. They don't marry non-Yazidis."

'ISIS want to impregnate Yazidi women and smash our blond bloodline': Fears grow for the 300 women kidnapped from Sinjar | Mail Online
 
Tintin said:
Okay, maybe not most, but certainly many are. I read Barnabas Prayer devotionals and the absolute vast majority of persecution for Christians is committed by Muslims. Yes, Islam has many followers, but it's far more than 1% or even 10% that are committing such evils. I'm not saying all Muslims are like that, but it seems those who properly follow the Qur'an definitely are. In the Western World, even the false religions are watered-down to mean almost nothing.
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There's a saying these days, ''most Muslims may not be terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims''...these days mind you.
 
crossnote said:
I don't think this is our call unless...

Muslims Rape Christian Women - 600 Christians Take Up Arms And Make One Final And Heroic Stand Against Muslim Jihadists : Freedom Outpost
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dcontroversal said:
I am sorry, but to be very clear.....It is one thing to give your head to the (charger) for the cause of Christ as John did.....but...It is an entirely different thing when a gang of bloody, deceitful men are raping a woman in front of you because she is Christian.....ALL I can say is I hope the Muslim men are 223 proof!
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That's why I ended the sentence with ...'unless'.
 
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