Cohabitation

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And such some of you "were". We are saved from all kinds of things. Our modern word pornography is derived from the Greek word Pornea. this is true. Unfortunately we cannot work in reverse to state that the Biblical word included pornography any more than we can state that the modern word for gas powered, pneumatic, applies to the Holy Spirit. The word pneuma is used. TO draw a corollary, to ask what size compressor powers the Holy Spirit, or how long His hose is, is what we could do if we took our modern meanings and worked backwards.

From the statements from the word of God, pornea, or fornication is Adultery, homosexual sex, premarital sex, bestiality ... all forms of unlawful intercourse. Nothing more, nothing less. We should seek out the meaning God intended, and not make up meanings that fit our modern words, unless you are of the opinion that the Holy Spirit is powered by a giant compressor, that is.
 
Out of everything you said emeth, I got nothing... So if your going to say something on the matter, make it something of substance.
 
By the way, God saved me....even though I wasn't married.
God doesn't ask you about that. God says to put on Christ today, and that means to know all of Christ we can to know, we are as Christ creates us today. Then we turn our backs on what happened yesterday, and Christ wipes that clean as snow like the old hymn says. We have all of Christ, now, our life is filled with it. If we are in an ungodly marriage, we make it a Godly one. Our past sins are completely gone, over. We are new in Christ, forgetting yesterday and going forward to tomorrow. We accept the forgiveness and cleansing God has done for us, accept it completely so guilt is gone. We have only tomorrow. We live tomorrow in Christ.
 
Have sex? I have a family brother... And your right God does know your heart.
My sons 2 and a half that I watch daily all of his life, I believe my actions speak by the way I live ..not a ring
but do want the money for all that...brother

I don't mean to sound judgmental, but surely if you can afford to bring a child into this world then you can afford to get married.
 
If God saves you today, you can be freed from physical strongholds in your life and your friends, entertainment, music, drugs, your thought, heart, will changes no doubt, He's not going to dump a million dollars in your pocket for you to live perfectly the way you want to. There's a fight, there's a struggle, it's a mountain and life's not going to be easy, God never said it would, it's something you work at to be "perfect" like Christ. You will never be perfect, no christian is perfect period ...only God is perfect, don't follow me, follow Christ, I bring a message of peace, love, and forgiveness, If you want to shun me and call me this or that, so be it, let the ones who read it, let their hearts judge if I sound from a good place, because I know my God.

by the way you want to check out sinners, go read about king David. He still loves David till this day.
 
We are to obey the "law of the land" as long as it doesn't infringe on God's doctrines. In this case it does.

Fornication is one of many sins that will keep you out of heaven.

I agree as i believe in God's word , over any other whosoever it be , jesus said my sheep will hear my voice , and spoke of seperating the hoats from the sheep and who are His sheep those that listen to the shepperds voice (God's Word
 
Scripture is fairly clear that "marriage" is important.............

[h=1]1 Corinthians
7[/h]
1 .) Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 .) Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 .) Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 .) The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5 .) Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
6 .) But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
7 .) For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 .) I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
9 .) But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
10 .) And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
11 .) But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
12 .) But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 .) And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 .) For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 .) But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
16 .) For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?

[h=4]Colossians 3:18-19[/h]Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.

[h=4]Hebrews 13:4-7[/h]Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." So we say with confidence, "The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?" Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.
 
I don't put these kind of things before God, as for fornicating?... You don't know me, so don't get to personal, unless you want to tell everyone what's happening under your sheets. I might marry with a neckless ring :)
 
I don't put these kind of things before God, as for fornicating?... You don't know me, so don't get to personal, unless you want to tell everyone what's happening under your sheets. I might marry with a neckless ring :)

Have no idea who you posted this in response to...........but if the Scriptures I posted bother you, then that's your problem not mine........Scripture is just that......understand it, accept it or don't. Your choice.
 
Have no idea who you posted this in response to...........but if the Scriptures I posted bother you, then that's your problem not mine........Scripture is just that......understand it, accept it or don't. Your choice.

Nothing you say bothers me :) ...just truth to be written for all eyes. I believe if anyone is in the situation I'm in, your ok, God still loves you, He knows your heart. I'll be sure when I get the "neckless ring" I'll post a picture of it,
I know God will love it hopefully some of you others will to.

so you have nothing on the pagan ring?
 
Nothing you say bothers me :) ...just truth to be written for all eyes. I believe if anyone is in the situation I'm in, your ok, God still loves you, He knows your heart. I'll be sure when I get the "neckless ring" I'll post a picture of it,
I know God will love it hopefully some of you others will to.

so you have nothing on the pagan ring?

Good, because all I did was post Scripture...........don't know about your situation, and, honestly, don't care......just quoted what Scripture said about marriage..........

Why on earth would I have any interest in "pagan ring?" I'm not pagan...........
 
Good, because all I did was post Scripture...........don't know about your situation, and, honestly, don't care......just quoted what Scripture said about marriage..........

Why on earth would I have any interest in "pagan ring?" I'm not pagan...........
Get that from scripture to? Where's the love in your heart?

The tradition of giving rings is "pagan"
 
Hello all! I am new here so I apologize in advance for going off topic with what you're all talking about but I have a serious question...So I was reading my bible tonight (1john) and it says to love your brother. Now my initial understanding was to love everyone but then I got to thinking well does that even mean non Christians? So I googled it and came upon an article that said in a literal sense, yes, you love everyone but as I read further it said that what Christ meant in that was to love your Christian brothers, so now I'm a little confused...Any insight on this would be great. TIA in advance
 
Hello all! I am new here so I apologize in advance for going off topic with what you're all talking about but I have a serious question...So I was reading my bible tonight (1john) and it says to love your brother. Now my initial understanding was to love everyone but then I got to thinking well does that even mean non Christians? So I googled it and came upon an article that said in a literal sense, yes, you love everyone but as I read further it said that what Christ meant in that was to love your Christian brothers, so now I'm a little confused...Any insight on this would be great. TIA in advance

Maybe this will help:

Mark 3:31) There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
32 .) And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
33 .) And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
34 .) And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
35 .) For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
 
A little...so if I understand correctly then that is referring to my bros. in Christ(?) So towards others should I be praying for them that they will change their hearts?
 
A little...so if I understand correctly then that is referring to my bros. in Christ(?) So towards others should I be praying for them that they will change their hearts?

We are to always pray........for our families, our Christian brothers and sisters, and for the lost..........

Not that "they" will change their hearts, but that God will change their hearts......... :) just saying......

Jesus said those who do the will of God, and yes, that would be believers in and followers of Jesus Christ.

Big difference between "brothers" and "neighbors."
 
Why would a Christian live with a woman or fool around with her. even if he knows scripture says not to fornicate?
It is where he is at in his walk with the Lord, and how he interprets scripture. Being a Christian is about having a personal relationship with Jesus. He may have this relationship with Jesus. but really drop the ball as far as the law is concerned.

If one was to interpret "do not fornicate" as a lust for a woman. being like just a animal in heat without caring for the
woman. One could see God hating this animal like kind of behavior.
When the couple is in a committed trusting relationship with nothing but total respect for each other. That is a completely different mindset and set of standards

This is not like two animals lusting for each other with some sort of a physical urge to satisfy themselves.
This is where they may feel they are in a grey area. God is not completely happy with there behavior. But they are not acting like animals either. So maybe a slap on the hand for what they were doing would be in order come judgement day.
For there hearts were in the right place.
It was all about love for each other and integrity.

It takes the Holy Spirit to convict there hearts for what they are doing. and for them to repent. This may take some powerful intervention from the Holy Spirit.

That is my take on things. For I walked that road only two years ago.