And I'm not sure how you suddenly flipped from "weird and inappropriate" to "nothing shameful, perfectly normal." That's the magical flip I talked about. My pastor didn't teach me that, your 180 reversal of attitude on sex did.
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If you're still not sure, ask yourself, if it's "weird and inappropriate", why/how is wanting it suddenly "nothing shameful and perfectly normal"? If it's "nothing shameful and perfectly normal" of wanting it, why is it "weird and inappropriate"? Perfectly contradictory, you can't have it both ways, right? So what's the transition? Ah, marriage, as soon as I get married, what used to be "weird and inappropriate" is now "nothing shameful and perfectly normal"; watching porn or reading graphic romance novels is big no no, but now acting out what is portrayed in those materials is "nothing shameful and perfectly normal", a foretaste of the eternal union with Lord Jesus, even though Lord Jesus explicitly schooled the Sadduccees on this, that there's no marriage in resurrection? How so, is marriage not simply a license to sex, when it seems to be the only logical and reasonably explanation for this magical flip?
Wanting sex is nothing shameful and perfectly normal
Making sex the topic of virtually every conversation you have is weird and inappropriate.
I mentioned happiness; you asked me if I define happiness as "a roll in the sheets"
@RodColeman mentioned divine union with Christ, you equated that with having sex with Jesus.
I could go on. But I won't. It would be weird and inappropriate.
Then call the word of God weird and inappropriate, for the Scripture itself doesn't shy away from that topic; "two becoming one flesh" is the consummation of marriage, it's like the signing of a contract, and the act is unequivocally identified by Paul as the conjugation - joining to a harlot, you become one body with the harlot; joining to the Lord, you become one spirit with Him. Therefore, the divine union with Christ is spiritual, the worldly union with your spouse is physical, one is totally different from the other; "having sex with Jesus" was just my way to ridicule this analogy.
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
Besides, if marriage is not just a license for sex, what else is marriage for? What drives you to date in the first place? Money? Status? Or just boredom and anxiety? Has anyone even seriously asked themselves about that?
If the topic of sex is "weird and inappropriate", yet wanting it is "nothing shameful and perfectly normal", then count me out, I don't need a license to "normalize" a highly "weird and inappropriate" act, and I don't like being a hypocrite, lashing out at others for what you're secretly wanting for yourself.
Congratulations on your gold medal in the conclusion jump.
While I was enjoying a good night's sleep you were jumping to so many conclusions about so many people that you must be completely worn out by now. And yes I just jumped to that conclusion that you are worn out.
What is it like planning a wedding?Haha well courting can get complicated in a hurry, I don't blame the gents who hold back.
I might post a few pics but I've been pretty busy lately. Catching up on work and projects and helping a friend plan her wedding in Oct.
I've never had one, or planned one.
I've been a flowergirl though. And of course, a guest. Never a bride or bridesmaid.
The last wedding I went to, the bride and groom(my cousin) planned it all as a destination ceremony. They actually already tied the knot at the courthouse a year prior. They had it up in the Bay Of Islands, not our home town so all the guests had to travel there to attend.
They had it near the beach in the afternoon, and a marquee dinner and dancing afterward, with speeches and fun games. The food was a sit down 3 course meal, basically everyone had the same. It was nice, but definitely their own planning and not parents being too involved. Groom's father had passed away.
What I remember is they had this big flower arrangement suspended from the ceiling like a ball of flowers, it was orange. pink and white theme, and had flowers like gerberas and poppies etc. Also we got to take home flowers after. I don't remember a bouquet toss!
Ah. Did not decline "absolutely." Very interesting.
Wait. Celibacy is not for all? I agree!
Huh? What does that have to do with modern-day Christians who want to marry? Also, did Jesus or Paul require younger sons to go into the army or the clergy? Uh, I don't think so. Also, remember how, in the Old Testament law, when a married man died without children, his surviving brother was commanded to marry his widow?
No, God doesn't promise marriage to the Christian. Neither does he require singleness of every Christian.
No, you're the one who mentioned a "messiah complex."
I never said all of Paul's writings were his personal opinions. Paul received divine inspiration when writing these epistles. But when writing 1 Corinthians 7, Paul admits when he's expressing an opinion and when he has no "commandment from God."
When did I ever say that he did?
Do you, though? Where in the Bible is the desire for romance/marriage/sex referred to as a sinful temptation?
Oh! It could be! Very interesting. I thought that was true in every case? Or no?
So, uh, why do you say that it's better for all people to stay single, then?
Show me that perfect godly husband who'd love you, glorify you and lay down his own life for you as instructed in Eph. 5.
What you want is one thing, what God wants from you and for you is quite another.
No, you made the analogy, that husband is supposed to like Jesus, so every husband should be like a messiah to his wife, as Jesus to his church, isn't that the foregone conclusion of the analogy?
Then again, why did you bother quoting him?
Fornicators and adulterers, God will judge, Heb. 13:4; adultery comes fro mthe heart, Matt. 5:28
I don't, the disciples did, I but concur, for I'm a disciple.
I keep telling you I'm a guy and you keep assuming I'm a girl.
If I found a husband it DEFINITELY wouldn't be godly...
You are wrong. There is marriage in the resurrection. Lord Jesus will marry His bride, the church, whom He is getting ready right now.
Show me the perfect single person...........oh, it's you. Sorry.
Does God want every Christian to stay single? Because the Bible doesn't say that.
When did I say that a husband is supposed to be like Jesus? I said that the analogy of marriage is used in the Bible to describe the relationship between Jesus (the "bridegroom") and the church (the "bride")
The Bible uses this analogy. I didn't come up with it.
Why did I bother quoting Paul? Um, because his teaching on marriage and celibacy is relevant to this discussion, and this teaching is rather nuanced. More nuanced, perhaps, than you realize.
So people who desire marriage, and people who get married, are guilty of fornication and adultery? Um, do you know the definition of "fornication" and "adultery"?
In 1 Corinthians 7, Paul addresses people who desire marriage. Where in this chapter does he accuse those people of fornication or adultery?
The disciples made this statement to Jesus. What was Jesus's response to this statement?
27 pages...
You said you're only doing this cause it's fun, and you'll only keep doing this as long as it's fun, but...
I ain't saying you're having too much fun with this, but... 27 pages dude.
If it was more difficult to answer Lovette's strange objections, I would find it easier to give up.
You're probably right, though.
Then Lord Jesus must be wrong. "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven." (Matt. 22:30)
Go lay down on your bed and knock yourslef out, maybe you'll dream of Lord Jesus, then you'll see the perfect single person.
Does God want every Christian to get married? Because the Bible doesn't say that.
What does that have anything to do with singles?
I realize he meant what he said - married stay married, singles stay single.
We all read the same bible, the difference lies within the conclusion each draws from it.
I find it strange that you still play dumb when I asked you WHOM to marry. On one hand, you said a fellow Christian; on the other, there's no "soul mate", God didn't promise a mate. No wonder you can't answer it.
Matt. 5:28
Did I say that it did? No.
I was answering your question.
What else does he say? You left those parts out.
Even when Paul makes clear statements about the subject we're discussing?