Costco -- the Bible is fiction

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Thought you lovely people would be intrigued to read this. Costco -- the Bible is fiction | Fox News

What do the Bible, "The Hunger Games" and "Fifty Shades of Grey" have in common? All three are works of fiction, according to the booksellers at Costco.
Pastor Caleb Kaltenbach made that shocking discovery last Friday as he was shopping for a present for his wife at a Costco in Simi Valley, Calif.
“All the Bibles were labeled as fiction,” the pastor told me. “It seemed bizarre to me.”
Kaltenbach is the lead pastor at Discovery Church, a non-denominational Christian congregation in southern California.
He thought there must be some sort of mistake so he scoured the shelf for other Bibles. Every copy was plastered with a sticker that read, “$14.99 Fiction.”


The pastor knew something must be amiss so he set off in search of a Costco employee hoping for an answer. Unfortunately, he couldn’t find anyone willing to answer his question (which is not all that surprising if you’ve shopped at Costco).
Since no one in the store was willing to offer assistance, the good shepherd of Discovery Church snapped a photograph of the Bible and tweeted it to his flock.
“People are pretty shocked and upset,” he told me. “We are supposed to be living in an era of tolerance, but what Costco did doesn’t seem too tolerant.”
I doubt they would label the Koran as fiction, Pastor Kaltenbach said. Heaven help us if they did.
“If they don’t believe in the Bible, that’s fine – but at least label it as ‘religion’ as some bookstores do, or ‘inspiration’,” he said.
So does the warehouse store that sells laundry detergent by the gallon have a problem with the Word of God?
I called Costco headquarters in Issaquah, Wash. hoping to get answers. The nice lady who answered the phone told me she was aware of the issue and chalked it up to a “human error at a warehouse.”
“It’s all fixed,” she said.
But actually, it’s not fixed – because there’s a boatload of Bibles in the Simi Valley store still marked as fiction.
At that point, the nice lady on the phone became not-so-nice and promptly informed me that Costco doesn’t talk to the press.
“Nothing to report,” she said curtly.
With all due respect, perhaps they should leave the reporting to the professionals and we’ll leave the bulk purchases of toilet paper to Costco.
Pastor Kaltenbach said he’s not one to speak out on such slights, but seeing the Good Book labeled as fiction was bit too much to take.
“On the one hand Christians should not yell out ‘persecution’,” he said. “We aren’t living in Iraq or Iran. But on the other hand, I believe that we do need to stand up for our faith and we need to be vocal about our concerns.”
That’s a message that resonates with pastor and author Robert Jeffress.

“Let’s hope Costco’s explanation is true and not the result of having been caught attempting to marginalize the very foundation of Christian beliefs, the Bible,” Pastor Jeffress told me. “Christians need to call out organizations like Costco whose actions undermine Christianity – regardless of whether those actions are accidental or intentional.”
Steven Smith, of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, said the fiction label identifies the thinking of the labeler more than the content of the book.
“To label the Bible fiction is a practical front for an ideological foundation that assumes things spiritual are unreal,” he told me. “What is odd about this choice is the glut of books in the "religion and spirituality" sections in mainstream book stores. However, as large as "spirituality" sections are, there must not be any room for Christianity. Modern thinking on spirituality is too exclusive to allow for the Bible.”
Of course, this entire episode could have been cleared up had a Costco employee simply answered Pastor Kaltenbach’s question.
And that’s the Gospel Truth.
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so did he expect it in the nonfiction section? I mean seriously people get uptight about the smallest dumbest things.
 
so did he expect it in the nonfiction section? I mean seriously people get uptight about the smallest dumbest things.

It is kind of picking the most important issue of the day, isn't it?

Reminds me of a preacher I heard, who when citing why Jehovah Witnesses weren't Christian, it was because they don't celebrate birthdays and don't salute the flag. Like srsly bro, cuz the divinity of Jesus is nbd.
 
Thought you lovely people would be intrigued to read this. Costco -- the Bible is fiction | Fox News

What do the Bible, "The Hunger Games" and "Fifty Shades of Grey" have in common? All three are works of fiction, according to the booksellers at Costco.
Pastor Caleb Kaltenbach made that shocking discovery last Friday as he was shopping for a present for his wife at a Costco in Simi Valley, Calif.
“All the Bibles were labeled as fiction,” the pastor told me. “It seemed bizarre to me.”
Kaltenbach is the lead pastor at Discovery Church, a non-denominational Christian congregation in southern California.
He thought there must be some sort of mistake so he scoured the shelf for other Bibles. Every copy was plastered with a sticker that read, “$14.99 Fiction.”


The pastor knew something must be amiss so he set off in search of a Costco employee hoping for an answer. Unfortunately, he couldn’t find anyone willing to answer his question (which is not all that surprising if you’ve shopped at Costco).
Since no one in the store was willing to offer assistance, the good shepherd of Discovery Church snapped a photograph of the Bible and tweeted it to his flock.
“People are pretty shocked and upset,” he told me. “We are supposed to be living in an era of tolerance, but what Costco did doesn’t seem too tolerant.”
I doubt they would label the Koran as fiction, Pastor Kaltenbach said. Heaven help us if they did.
“If they don’t believe in the Bible, that’s fine – but at least label it as ‘religion’ as some bookstores do, or ‘inspiration’,” he said.
So does the warehouse store that sells laundry detergent by the gallon have a problem with the Word of God?
I called Costco headquarters in Issaquah, Wash. hoping to get answers. The nice lady who answered the phone told me she was aware of the issue and chalked it up to a “human error at a warehouse.”
“It’s all fixed,” she said.
But actually, it’s not fixed – because there’s a boatload of Bibles in the Simi Valley store still marked as fiction.
At that point, the nice lady on the phone became not-so-nice and promptly informed me that Costco doesn’t talk to the press.
“Nothing to report,” she said curtly.
With all due respect, perhaps they should leave the reporting to the professionals and we’ll leave the bulk purchases of toilet paper to Costco.
Pastor Kaltenbach said he’s not one to speak out on such slights, but seeing the Good Book labeled as fiction was bit too much to take.
“On the one hand Christians should not yell out ‘persecution’,” he said. “We aren’t living in Iraq or Iran. But on the other hand, I believe that we do need to stand up for our faith and we need to be vocal about our concerns.”
That’s a message that resonates with pastor and author Robert Jeffress.

“Let’s hope Costco’s explanation is true and not the result of having been caught attempting to marginalize the very foundation of Christian beliefs, the Bible,” Pastor Jeffress told me. “Christians need to call out organizations like Costco whose actions undermine Christianity – regardless of whether those actions are accidental or intentional.”
Steven Smith, of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, said the fiction label identifies the thinking of the labeler more than the content of the book.
“To label the Bible fiction is a practical front for an ideological foundation that assumes things spiritual are unreal,” he told me. “What is odd about this choice is the glut of books in the "religion and spirituality" sections in mainstream book stores. However, as large as "spirituality" sections are, there must not be any room for Christianity. Modern thinking on spirituality is too exclusive to allow for the Bible.”
Of course, this entire episode could have been cleared up had a Costco employee simply answered Pastor Kaltenbach’s question.
And that’s the Gospel Truth.
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Hello,

The Bible does sound like fiction to outsiders looking in.
Those who co-operate with the plan of GOD recieve his Spirit that makes the 'fiction' real
and give illumination.
GOD is no respector of persons.

Play your cards right end you enter into the invisible deal.

Believe on the LORD Jesus, as the predicted precious Christ
and come to him through baptism, calling on his name.

Baptism must be done correctly.

Praying and then immersing gets no response from Jesus.
 
The way many christians treat God's Word it's no wonder the world sees it as fiction.
 
The way many christians treat God's Word it's no wonder the world sees it as fiction.

It truly sounds like fiction to the natural man.

The gullible does not help the case.

1 Cor.2
[12] Now we (Apostles and baptised converts) have received, not the spirit of the world,
but the Spirit of GOD that we might know the things that are freely given to us of/ by God.
[13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches,
but which the Holy Ghost teaches;
>> comparing spiritual things/ predictions with spiritual/ fulfilments.<<
[14] But the >> natural man receives not the things of/ from the Spirit of God:
for they are >> foolishness (unsubstantiated stories) unto him:
neither can he know them, because they are >> spiritually discerned.

This is occuring even among 'believers.'

Let's labour for better.
 
Thing is, you can't put ALL religious texts in the non fiction section. That's even more confusing lol. The store was probably playing it safe... But the store was going to upset someone of some faith whatever they did.
 
Perhaps the person in charge of laying out the store isn't a Christian.

Just because I'm curious, where would you guys expect to find the Quran?
 
so did he expect it in the nonfiction section? I mean seriously people get uptight about the smallest dumbest things.
you obviously didn't read the whole post, he said....

“If they don’t believe in the Bible, that’s fine – but at least label it as ‘religion’ as some bookstores do, or ‘inspiration’,” he said.
 
it was never said if they even have a religious section. Costco isnt a bookstore. So expecting them to have multiple sections or multiple categories doesnt make a lot of sense.
 
it was never said if they even have a religious section. Costco isnt a bookstore. So expecting them to have multiple sections or multiple categories doesnt make a lot of sense.

If there aren't book sections in their store, then a brighter idea might be to not put “$14.99 Fiction”
stickers to delineate a specific section that you know the primary consumers of a particular item will take offense to. It doesn't make good business sense, and it certainly doesn't make sense to any Christian who would otherwise purchase the item. Anyway, it doesn't matter that much to me what someone else believes. I'm not obligated to give them my patronage.
 
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If there aren't book sections in their store, then a brighter idea might be to not put “$14.99 Fiction”
stickers to delineate a specific section that you know the primary consumers of a particular item will take offense to. It doesn't make good business sense, and it certainly doesn't make sense to any Christian who would otherwise purchase the item. Anyway, it doesn't matter that much to me what someone else believes. I'm not obligated to give them my patronage.

okay say youre costco(which wont work because i doubt youll listen to reason) but you only sell a handful of books...say fiction and nonfiction. Are you going to put all the religious texts in nonfiction or fiction? if you put them all in nonfiction then people will get mad that youre saying they are all correct, put them all in fiction someone will still theirs undergarments in a twist. Its a no win situation. but they probably said forget it, if someone is this uptight we dont need their business anyways.
 
I saw this on the news and there was a lot of flack about it. I had couple
of thoughts.

1. Wonder where they would have put the Koran ~(before I knew they don't
have a book section) ~
2. The upside to this is ...if people think it is fiction, they will want to buy it.~
 
It is kind of picking the most important issue of the day, isn't it?

Reminds me of a preacher I heard, who when citing why Jehovah Witnesses weren't Christian, it was because they don't celebrate birthdays and don't salute the flag. Like srsly bro, cuz the divinity of Jesus is nbd.

People need to get real. It's not like the church that split over the most serious of matters...green or red for the new hymnals.
 
#1 Did they have a religious section? It is costco, not Barns and Noble
#2 They apologized
 
#1 Did they have a religious section? It is costco, not Barns and Noble
#2 They apologized

#1 Every Wal-Mart I've been to has a section labeled "religion" or "inspirational." It's only a matter of one shelf label.

#2 Bingo. They made it right. Time to lay off.
 
okay say youre costco(which wont work because i doubt youll listen to reason) but you only sell a handful of books...say fiction and nonfiction. Are you going to put all the religious texts in nonfiction or fiction? if you put them all in nonfiction then people will get mad that youre saying they are all correct, put them all in fiction someone will still theirs undergarments in a twist. Its a no win situation. but they probably said forget it, if someone is this uptight we dont need their business anyways.


I'm willing to consider the scenario. If I were Costco... and let's assume that they only had two different types of stickers: fiction and non-fiction. Although a sticker specifically for a 14.99 fiction category tells me that they had quite a variety of stickers. But let's say they only had 14.99 fiction and 14.99 nonfiction. Which would I paste onto the religious books of my customers? Probably nonfiction so as not to upset my customers. What if a member of another faith got upset? I'd just apologize and tell them that I only had two kinds of stickers and I felt that nonfiction more aptly described a religious book just as nonfiction would best describe a book on philosophy or a textbook under those circumstances.

But when you put a fiction sticker on a book that is considered as nonfiction by your customers, then you're pretty well screwed. I think appealing to the customer base you're trying to reach is a pretty common and reasonable business tactic. So bad business decision? I think so. And, as a believer in the Bible, it was also just outright wrong. But who cares? I never shop at Costco anyway.
 
so what are you going to argue over the stupid price now? how is the 14.99 relveant? The fiction just denoted which shef to toss it on. fiction goes here, nonfiction goes there. this still was pointless in the first place for someone to get mad