Could the tribulation start this year?
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Go to https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705 Thousands of Swedes are inserting a chip the size of a grain of rice in the hand. This chip holds all their information. We according to Matt. 24 are in the birth pains. The beginning of sorrows.
No, the "birth pangs" were stated by Jesus to be wars, famines, pestilences, etc. that preceded the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. They were early warning signs, brought on by Israel's refusal to repent of their sins.
Obviously, wars, famines, and earthquakes exist all through history. But God sends them at His whim. And in this context, He sent them to warn Israel of their coming judgment, should they refuse to repent.
Only believers among the Jews repented and accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior. And they were given to escape the 70 AD judgment.
The Jews should've recognized the drum beat of Roman conquest. It was happening all around them. They knew they were weak before the Roman occupation, and could not hope to stand against them. But irrationally, Jewish brazenness prevailed, and the sin of independent judgment won out among the Jews. They insisted on believing God was on their side, when famines and earthquakes warned them that God was *not* on their side.
These were the "birth pangs" that would bring forth a still-born child. Their Messiah would be lost, and they would be either killed or exiled throughout the term of the NT era. This is what the Olivet Discourse was all about.
Obviously, wars, famines, and earthquakes exist all through history. But God sends them at His whim. And in this context, He sent them to warn Israel of their coming judgment, should they refuse to repent.
Only believers among the Jews repented and accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior. And they were given to escape the 70 AD judgment.
The Jews should've recognized the drum beat of Roman conquest. It was happening all around them. They knew they were weak before the Roman occupation, and could not hope to stand against them. But irrationally, Jewish brazenness prevailed, and the sin of independent judgment won out among the Jews. They insisted on believing God was on their side, when famines and earthquakes warned them that God was *not* on their side.
These were the "birth pangs" that would bring forth a still-born child. Their Messiah would be lost, and they would be either killed or exiled throughout the term of the NT era. This is what the Olivet Discourse was all about.
No Matt: 24 Jesus is talking about when he will be back. Matt:24:3 "And he sat upon the Mount of Olives, "the disciples came to Him privately, saying, Tell us, when will these things be? and what shall be the SIGN of your coming, and the end of the world(age)..., Jesus laid it out systematically. There wasn't the technology to let them know of the places around the world having nations against nations, pestilences, earthquakes in diver places. See Ezekiel 38:8 "in the latter years thou shall come into the land that is brought back from the sword, :and is gathered out of many peoples etc. Israel became a nation again in 1948 gathered from all over the world. If you look at Ezekiel 38 you will see the nations spoke about are in play today. Russia, Germany, Turkey, Iran, Ethiopia, Libya, The beginning of sorrows. Now Christians all over the world are being persecuted and killed. Even here in the US there is a falling away from God. look at all the hate people have because one doesn't follow there ideas. The people are broken up into different religious and political beliefs and everyone is divided. 70 AD was the fulfillment of Gods promise back in Deuteronomy 28:25 "shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth." Because they violated Gods commandment and statutes. Read all of Chap 28. And look at the love many that has waxed cold. We all need to focus on prayer right now more than anything, Prayer constantly praying in our hearts and minds. talking to God while we drive, walk, shop in everything we do. The tribulation is coming so be prepared.
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The ”beginning” of the great tribulation is earmarked in scripture for us by the Lord Jesus Christ.
“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:15-21
- Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand)…For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
The great tribulation will begin when we see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place, of the temple.
Fact: The temple must be rebuilt complete with a holy place first.
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You conveniently left out the very thing that they were asking about! They were asking *when* the destruction of the temple, stone by stone, would take place! Are you serious? Are you trying to make it sound as if the Disciples were only asking *when* Jesus would return?
It's clear that Jesus never did give a time when he would return. But he did tell his Disciples when the fall of Jerusalem would take place. It would be in their very generation. But I think you know that. You just close you mind to it because modern futurist interpretation of this prophecy would sidestep it and focus only on future predictions. Or so it seems to me.
This last part I would agree with. What happened to Israel was given as a sign for future Christian countries who likewise would experience a great falling away. Our love has indeed grown cold, and Christians are now being persecuted to some degree in the West.
Dan 7 indicated that the 4th Kingdom would be "in play." That's the Roman Empire, which today is Europe. It is definitely preparing ground for the rise of the Antichrist.
As for Ezekiel's prophecy, that one sort of stumps me. According to Rev 20, it happens after the Millennium. But it may also take place before the Millennium--I don't know. Thanks for sharing.
It's clear that Jesus never did give a time when he would return. But he did tell his Disciples when the fall of Jerusalem would take place. It would be in their very generation. But I think you know that. You just close you mind to it because modern futurist interpretation of this prophecy would sidestep it and focus only on future predictions. Or so it seems to me.
This last part I would agree with. What happened to Israel was given as a sign for future Christian countries who likewise would experience a great falling away. Our love has indeed grown cold, and Christians are now being persecuted to some degree in the West.
Dan 7 indicated that the 4th Kingdom would be "in play." That's the Roman Empire, which today is Europe. It is definitely preparing ground for the rise of the Antichrist.
As for Ezekiel's prophecy, that one sort of stumps me. According to Rev 20, it happens after the Millennium. But it may also take place before the Millennium--I don't know. Thanks for sharing.
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Yes the great tribulation will happen when the temple is built but this also is when the antichrist will reveal himself however it also speaks of many tribulations beforehand making it seem as if the tribulation and the great tribulation are different parts of one thing if we werte to read it as one thing it would seem as if many horrible things happen at once but obviously if it is like birth pangs that isn't how it works.
For instance if you notice the first half seems more carnel the persicution of believers the mark not being able to buy or sell without it a system set up by the enemy which we can see if we pay attention is being set up now the vaccine is a precursor to the mark anyone who refuses the vaccine is called a threat to otherssoon enough it won't be done with just words alone.
However in the second half you notice things are done by angels not man. Now I am wondering and paying close attention to the presidency, Trump is for Israel and Biden seems to not care but the temple requires permission to be built because of the area it resides in if Biden creates war by his insanely stupid move with Afghanistan he will not be able to step down as president or be overruled he will oficially be commander in cheif but say Trump somehow gets his postion back he would be for the building of the third temple but regardless of the temple anyone who pays attention can tell that the tribulation is getting close
For instance if you notice the first half seems more carnel the persicution of believers the mark not being able to buy or sell without it a system set up by the enemy which we can see if we pay attention is being set up now the vaccine is a precursor to the mark anyone who refuses the vaccine is called a threat to otherssoon enough it won't be done with just words alone.
However in the second half you notice things are done by angels not man. Now I am wondering and paying close attention to the presidency, Trump is for Israel and Biden seems to not care but the temple requires permission to be built because of the area it resides in if Biden creates war by his insanely stupid move with Afghanistan he will not be able to step down as president or be overruled he will oficially be commander in cheif but say Trump somehow gets his postion back he would be for the building of the third temple but regardless of the temple anyone who pays attention can tell that the tribulation is getting close
Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. Why the mystery? To catch satan by surprise, once the Harpazo (Rapture) happens, satan will only have a short time to plan his deceiving lies.
The Blessed Hope is what we have during these trying times! Our only action that our Lord tells us to do is LOOK UP and be READY! Not to waste our time guessing WHEN! It's dogmatic to date set.
The Blessed Hope is what we have during these trying times! Our only action that our Lord tells us to do is LOOK UP and be READY! Not to waste our time guessing WHEN! It's dogmatic to date set.
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Your right and I'm wrong. However, it wasn't because of convenience. It was ignorance. I failed to read Matt: 24 from the beginning. I started on verse 3 and missed the question about the temple. You are right it was 70 AD when the Romans sacked the temple. Ezekiel 38 to at least to me mirrors what Jesus was talking about in Matt 24.
"Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!"
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