Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Cameron143

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So if someone points out the obvious flaws about Trump's behaviour or character, you assume that they're a democratic supporter?
No, of course not. But I try to gather information as to what they do believe. So...how would you fix things? Who do you promote? What is the best way forward?
 

true_believer

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I sometimes wonder how people can make statements like this.

How can they be this far divorced from reality?

Many of us know the democrats not only have gotten away with faaaaaaar worse than anything Trump or other republicans have done, but are utterly and completely evil.

There is not one redeeming quality that a Democrat advocates.

I think this mentality must come from the echo chamber of MSM news where they get their information.
Did Democrats help create Saddam Hussein's regime in the 80's?
Did Democrats invade Iraq in 2003 causing the loss of millions of lives and leading to further destabilization of Middle East?
Obviously not.
 

ZNP

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No, of course not. But I try to gather information as to what they do believe. So...how would you fix things? Who do you promote? What is the best way forward?
Jesus, the only way forward
 

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Did Democrats help create Saddam Hussein's regime in the 80's?
Did Democrats invade Iraq in 2003 causing the loss of millions of lives and leading to further destabilization of Middle East?
Obviously not.
Well they certainly played their part.

But I'm not very happy with the Bushs for a variety of reasons. "Homeland security Dept" at the top of the list.

However, as bad as they were, they absolutely pale in comparison to the Dems. Elections are ALWAYS about the lesser of two evils.

Because human beings are elected and not Jesus. So we, as Christians, have to choose the least objectionable candidate according to POLICY!!!! I cannot emphasize that enough.
Now, they may not totally adhere to the policy they claim, but there is ZERO debate over who has the most evil policy, and who has at least some good policy.
 

JTB

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Joe's?! Yes, it's about time!!
ALL of them. Joe, Donald, Obummer, Pelosi, the Clintons, the Bushes, McConnell - they ALL should share a cell.

I'll give ya this ... trump should indeed be facing charges, but so should the rest of them. It would only be fair!
 

JTB

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So if someone points out the obvious flaws about Trump's behaviour or character, you assume that they're a democratic supporter?
That is EXACTLY true.

I clearly state over and over again that I don't support either party, yet let me talk about trump negatively and I'm a stinkin' demonrat!

It's a preconceived bias, and those are very hard to overcome.
 

JTB

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As for JTB, I’ve had him on ignore for many a month, not the least of reasons because of his disgusting part in the whole Levi leaving debacle.
Oh, you mean protesting his misuse of a donation he actively sought?

Or the fact that once he made good I made a plea to the mods to reinstate him, only to be told I wasn't the only one who complained?

Hmmmm.... do you hold a grudge against the others who complained? Or am I your sole focus?

Tunnel vision runs rampant here, my friend. Look for the bigger picture
 

JTB

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Elections are ALWAYS about the lesser of two evils.

So we, as Christians, have to choose the least objectionable candidate .
BZZZZZZZZZZZ Wrong.

To give one sin a pass because another sin is opposed IS TO SUPPORT SIN!
 

JTB

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You clearly aren't paying attention. What do you pay for gas btw?
What does the price of gas have to do with it?

Here's a lesson on economics ... if a company raises prices and their profits go up, they are not covering their costs, they are profiteering.

If a company raises prices but their profits remain the same, THEN they are covering costs.

This whole inflation debacle was not Joe's doing. It is corporate america punishing us for putting a democrat in office.
 

Cameron143

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What does the price of gas have to do with it?

Here's a lesson on economics ... if a company raises prices and their profits go up, they are not covering their costs, they are profiteering.

If a company raises prices but their profits remain the same, THEN they are covering costs.

This whole inflation debacle was not Joe's doing. It is corporate america punishing us for putting a democrat in office.
Here's a lesson in wisdom:
Read Luke 18:1-8. Jesus commends an unjust steward. His point wasn't to promote an ends justify the means argument. In fact, He tells us exactly what the story is about...that the children of the world are wiser in their generation than the children of light.

Sometimes people are too spiritual to be of any use at all. There are less babies dying in the womb today because Trump was President. Any Republican president will do more to promote life, religious freedom, and the rights and welfare of the people of this nation than any Democrat.

The Bible teaches to seek wisdom. It is precious.

BTW...your economics lesson was horribly wrong. Corporate America is largely Woke.
 

JTB

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Here's a lesson in wisdom:
Read Luke 18:1-8. Jesus commends an unjust steward. His point wasn't to promote an ends justify the means argument. In fact, He tells us exactly what the story is about...that the children of the world are wiser in their generation than the children of light.

Sometimes people are too spiritual to be of any use at all. There are less babies dying in the womb today because Trump was President. Any Republican president will do more to promote life, religious freedom, and the rights and welfare of the people of this nation than any Democrat.

The Bible teaches to seek wisdom. It is precious.

BTW...your economics lesson was horribly wrong. Corporate America is largely Woke.
Luke 18... Not sure how that applies here. Rather than me guess, care to share your take? (And yes I understand that those of the world are watching closer than those of God. That's what I'm trying to point out to those of God).

Abortion was not stopped by trump. It was stopped by 3 supreme court nominees who LIED to get their seats. Last time I looked lying was a sin, but apparently that sin is ok because it resulted in less baby killing. (Making the ends justify the means).

Do republicans promote life? Does taking resources from the middle and poor to line the pockets of the rich really promote life for anyone but the rich? Does promoting Christian freedom while stifling the freedom of muslims/atheists/etc really promote religious freedom (hoboy I can hear the mis-placed response to that already).

This touches on a debate I had with someone elsewhere. He says no persons problem is the result of someone else being a billionaire. Totally overlooking the fact that millions of people cannot afford life-saving medications because a billionaire bought the rights to a drug and jacked the price up 1500%.

Big picture people. Until you're willing to see the big picture, you will continue to support one sin at the cost of another.
 

Cameron143

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Luke 18... Not sure how that applies here. Rather than me guess, care to share your take? (And yes I understand that those of the world are watching closer than those of God. That's what I'm trying to point out to those of God).

Abortion was not stopped by trump. It was stopped by 3 supreme court nominees who LIED to get their seats. Last time I looked lying was a sin, but apparently that sin is ok because it resulted in less baby killing. (Making the ends justify the means).

Do republicans promote life? Does taking resources from the middle and poor to line the pockets of the rich really promote life for anyone but the rich? Does promoting Christian freedom while stifling the freedom of muslims/atheists/etc really promote religious freedom (hoboy I can hear the mis-placed response to that already).

This touches on a debate I had with someone elsewhere. He says no persons problem is the result of someone else being a billionaire. Totally overlooking the fact that millions of people cannot afford life-saving medications because a billionaire bought the rights to a drug and jacked the price up 1500%.

Big picture people. Until you're willing to see the big picture, you will continue to support one sin at the cost of another.
I appreciate you sharing. I couldn't disagree with you more on nearly everything. But everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Blessings.
 

true_believer

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This pretty much sums up the state of denial that most Republicans are holding.....
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True, but sadly the Dems exhibit this trait as well.
True, but sadly the Dems exhibit this trait as well.
the main thing that so many cannot see is that politicians are not going to save america.

they, both sides of the aisle, have brought us to where we are...
 
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Seems after Desantis has lately bombed in the primary for making some rather stupid comments about slavery as well as appearing generally weak and feckless on the issue of Ukraine-Russia and foreign policy in general that the GOP race is over just as it began. At the very first opening night townhall to begin the election season President Trump showed that he is the clear frontrunner for the GOP. The election season has officially begun and it seems like Jesus has made a clear path of redemption for the USA to Save America called Trump 2024. May the degenerates and reprobates of America open their eyes and see reason and cast aside their wicked demonic liberal egos if for no other reason than to spare their children from the wrath of God and the imminent disaster that 5 more years of evil old satanic Democrat misrule would mean. Save America Trump 2024. PRAISE JESUS!