Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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PennEd

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Nevertheless, both are weird.
It is NOT weird for a father to hug and kiss his children.
It's weird to think it's weird!

His remark was just a stupid joke and attempt to say "Look at how beautiful my daughter is". I tell my sons all the time how hansome they are.

To associate in any way, anticipating a certain response or not, Biden bathing with his daughter, to Trump hugging his daughter absolutely infers filthiness.
UNLESS, you were to bring it up and NOT say Trump's pic was weird.
 

Smoke

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It is NOT weird for a father to hug and kiss his children.
It's weird to think it's weird!
Strawman. No one said "A father who kisses and hugs his children is weird". Your framing is disingenuous and it's obvious.

His remark was just a stupid joke and attempt to say "Look at how beautiful my daughter is". I tell my sons all the time how hansome they are.
I agree he was joking, but I'm unclear with your answer to my question. You tell your boys how handsome they are, but you don't make weird statements like, "If I was gay and if you weren't my sons, perhaps I'd be dating you"... now DO you? You admit it's a "stupid joke", but do you think it's a weird thing to say, especially calling her "sexy" and agreeing with Stern that she "is a [nice] piece of @$$"? Emphasis on "weird".

If you agree it is in fact "weird", then when we see a teenaged Ivanka being held by Trump as if she was one of his ex-wives, can you NOW understand how it's weird?

To associate in any way, anticipating a certain response or not, Biden bathing with his daughter, to Trump hugging his daughter absolutely infers filthiness.
UNLESS, you were to bring it up and NOT say Trump's pic was weird.
Of course it infers filthiness... Surely you don't refute Trump's "joke" as being filthy? I know you think it was stupid, but was it not also filthy? We don't even have to bring up what Biden did as we both agree it's not a defense. My goal was to defuse that weak whataboutism defense. Mission accomplished... but moving forward, you DO agree it's "weird" and "filthy" to joke that way about your daughter, yes? And if so, do you get why people get a bad taste in their mouth when looking at the picture posted earlier when we know how he has spoken of her?
 

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So I guess Trump wouldn't be eligible to vote in Texas, since he's been convicted of 30+ felonies.

I also wonder if they did the same thing we discussed earlier in identifying non-citizens. One of the local news sources I read described them as "potential non-citizens". But without additional info, it's hard to tell.
 

PennEd

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Strawman. No one said "A father who kisses and hugs his children is weird". Your framing is disingenuous and it's obvious.
LOL! I'm the one with a strawman, and you won't even say if you have kids or not! As if there'd be any conceivable problem with divulging that. (other than acknowledging that you have no idea how fathers act toward their children).

The picture displays a father hugging and kissing his daughter in public. Are ya sure you know what a strawman argument means?
There is nothing weird about that.
Trump has his whole life said stupid and inappropriate things. MANY of which I don't like in the slightest.
I think it's stupid and inappropriate to even go on Stern.

NONE of that means that it is inappropriate or "weird" for him to have hugged his daughter and kissed her head. ESPECIALLY since he pretty much posed for the picture.

Further, the whole purpose and intent by those posting and insinuating that Trump did something wrong in that pic is to suppress the Trump Christian vote. I care about the policies that will be enacted. And it is NOT EVEN close AT ALL TIMES A BILLION between the two.

I DO NOT make these types of predictions. I talk about possibilities of things happening, but not predictions.

But I will predict that if Kamala Harris wins the White House, and the Dems win in Congress, we will lose America, and not just in an esoteric sense. I mean in a Constitutional sense.

I NEVER in the past put any stock in the "this is the most important election of our lifetime" trash.

But it ABSOLUTELY is this time. Democrat wins WILL BE the end of this nation before her term is up.
 

JayBird

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Looks like a ton of Republicans have turned on Trump and are urging other Republicans to not vote for him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-200-former-bush-mccain-155753387.html

More than 200 Republicans who worked for both Bush presidents, the late Sen. John McCain and Sen. Mitt Romney declared their endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign in an open letter released Monday.
The letter comes after several Republicans who are openly critical of former President Donald Trump delivered remarks at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago last week.
In their letter, which was first reported by USA Today, the former staff members noted that they had come out against Trump during the 2020 election cycle and said they "jointly declare that we’re voting for Vice President Kamala Harris and Gov. Tim Walz this November."
"Of course, we have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz. That’s to be expected," they wrote. "The alternative, however, is simply untenable.”
 

HeIsHere

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Strawman. No one said "A father who kisses and hugs his children is weird". Your framing is disingenuous and it's obvious.



I agree he was joking, but I'm unclear with your answer to my question. You tell your boys how handsome they are, but you don't make weird statements like, "If I was gay and if you weren't my sons, perhaps I'd be dating you"... now DO you? You admit it's a "stupid joke", but do you think it's a weird thing to say, especially calling her "sexy" and agreeing with Stern that she "is a [nice] piece of @$$"? Emphasis on "weird".

If you agree it is in fact "weird", then when we see a teenaged Ivanka being held by Trump as if she was one of his ex-wives, can you NOW understand how it's weird?



Of course it infers filthiness... Surely you don't refute Trump's "joke" as being filthy? I know you think it was stupid, but was it not also filthy? We don't even have to bring up what Biden did as we both agree it's not a defense. My goal was to defuse that weak whataboutism defense. Mission accomplished... but moving forward, you DO agree it's "weird" and "filthy" to joke that way about your daughter, yes? And if so, do you get why people get a bad taste in their mouth when looking at the picture posted earlier when we know how he has spoken of her?

Minimize and downplay, have you noticed?

There are pictures of her sitting on his lap at 15, completely normal or a joke I suppose. :rolleyes:

There is something awry when a 15 year old girl sits on her father's lap, end of story.
 

ResidentAlien

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So I guess Trump wouldn't be eligible to vote in Texas, since he's been convicted of 30+ felonies.

I also wonder if they did the same thing we discussed earlier in identifying non-citizens. One of the local news sources I read described them as "potential non-citizens". But without additional info, it's hard to tell.
Pretty ironic. Convicted felons aren't allowed to vote in most states but you can run for President, lol.
 

Eli1

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So I guess Trump wouldn't be eligible to vote in Texas, since he's been convicted of 30+ felonies.

I also wonder if they did the same thing we discussed earlier in identifying non-citizens. One of the local news sources I read described them as "potential non-citizens". But without additional info, it's hard to tell.
This is just the beginning.
Wait until Trump installs a Christian Theocracy and police will check in if you're in compliance with your mullet haircut and your ford pickup truck.
You will be sent to a re-education camp if you aren't.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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This is just the beginning.
Wait until Trump installs a Christian Theocracy and police will check in if you're in compliance with your mullet haircut and your ford pickup truck.
You will be sent to a re-education camp if you aren't.

IDK I think Commie Harris has this chapter nailed down. She's been caught forcing Facebook to censor content she doesn't like. So it's more like there'll be tampons in mens bathrooms, and we'll all be forced to spoon and watch Veep while men learn to paint their toenails and insert tampons. ;)
 

HeIsHere

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This is just the beginning.
Wait until Trump installs a Christian Theocracy and police will check in if you're in compliance with your mullet haircut and your ford pickup truck.
You will be sent to a re-education camp if you aren't.

Do you think Trump would install a theocracy or are just having fun?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Always with the whataboutism, there is nothing "biblical" about Trump.

Whataboutism is a made up liberal word used when they run out of argument. You want to have censorship in this country go vote with the feminatzi's. The majority of us want a free and fair election this time. They've also caught illegals on the voter rolls in Texis. But who cares huh? It's a big joke.
 

Eli1

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IDK I think Commie Harris has this chapter nailed down. She's been caught forcing Facebook to censor content she doesn't like. So it's more like there'll be tampons in mens bathrooms, and we'll all be forced to spoon and watch Veep while men learn to paint their toenails and insert tampons. ;)
Yeah i saw that and in fact Facbook has been tarnished since the Cambridge Analytica scandal but who's keep track of all the episodes you know? :ROFL:
I think no matter how hard these snowflakes try, America is tired of the "men in dresses" season and will try a different outlook.
Men in pickup trucks!

Honestly, i think i will look very good on a pickup truck and a new haircut.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Do you think Trump would install a theocracy or are just having fun?

Gotta love these people. First Trump is more immoral than anyone who ever lived and the anti-Christ, but he's gonna start a theocracy!!! Can't make this :poop: up. rofl
 

Eli1

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Do you think Trump would install a theocracy or are just having fun?
Maybe. It's a natural reaction to how things go since both sides want to double down.
"A woman" is a mystery.
So a Christian Theocracy is as valid as that.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Yeah i saw that and in fact Facbook has been tarnished since the Cambridge Analytica scandal but who's keep track of all the episodes you know? :ROFL:
I think no matter how hard these snowflakes try, America is tired of the "men in dresses" season and will try a different outlook.
Men in pickup trucks!

Honestly, i think i will look very good on a pickup truck and a new haircut.
We want pics as proof of that one!! Yeah it would be great if men were men again. But I don't see Harris giving men their...er... man bits back any time soon. She keeps her hubby's in her purse you know. ;)
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Maybe. It's a natural reaction to how things go since both sides want to double down.
"A woman" is a mystery.
So a Christian Theocracy is as valid as that.
Well they don't know what a woman is. Until it can be used as a weapon. Then they quickly remember what a woman is.
 
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We want pics as proof of that one!! Yeah it would be great if men were men again. But I don't see Harris giving men their...er... man bits back any time soon. She keeps her hubby's in her purse you know. ;)
Whataboutism is a made up liberal word used when they run out of argument. You want to have censorship in this country go vote with the feminatzi's. The majority of us want a free and fair election this time. They've also caught illegals on the voter rolls in Texis. But who cares huh? It's a big joke.
The Candidates for President are selected. Too late for a fair election when so many people keep supporting only Candidates for President who are selected.