Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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SonJudgment

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The backfire continues after Kamala's disastrous softball interview by CNN. The public perceived that Kamala was given a softball interview to try to help her, and failing even that has left many in the center and even on the left disgruntled with the democrat party. After all how can you do so poorly when so much is rigged in your favor? Even Stephen A Smith, who is an open Kamala supporter, pointed this out and vented his frustration with the democrats in a very popular video segment that is making the rounds. Here is the video which brings up really great points both from the vantage point of an elite democrat in the person of Smith as well as the viewpoint of a common young black American man who seems to be supporting Trump. Even from such disparate backgrounds and ideologies we can see alot of common ground here with both sides acknowledging Kamala will be terrible for the country, Trump will be good for the country, the democrats circumventing and manipulating with democracy is a huge and glaring problem that they have no real answer for, and how foreign policy wise Kamala is absolutely dangerous while Trump is perhaps the only figure in the Western world that can handle the dangers of Russia and China and Iran that the democrats enabled.

 

ZNP

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The backfire continues after Kamala's disastrous softball interview by CNN. The public perceived that Kamala was given a softball interview to try to help her, and failing even that has left many in the center and even on the left disgruntled with the democrat party. After all how can you do so poorly when so much is rigged in your favor? Even Stephen A Smith, who is an open Kamala supporter, pointed this out and vented his frustration with the democrats in a very popular video segment that is making the rounds. Here is the video which brings up really great points both from the vantage point of an elite democrat in the person of Smith as well as the viewpoint of a common young black American man who seems to be supporting Trump. Even from such disparate backgrounds and ideologies we can see alot of common ground here with both sides acknowledging Kamala will be terrible for the country, Trump will be good for the country, the democrats circumventing and manipulating with democracy is a huge and glaring problem that they have no real answer for, and how foreign policy wise Kamala is absolutely dangerous while Trump is perhaps the only figure in the Western world that can handle the dangers of Russia and China and Iran that the democrats enabled.

I think they are burdened by what has been. If only there were some way to get the majority of voters to forget about what has been and instead buy into the empty promises of what can be.
 

SonJudgment

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I think they are burdened by what has been. If only there were some way to get the majority of voters to forget about what has been and instead buy into the empty promises of what can be.
Well even then they don't really make many promises besides abortion. Like both Stephen A Smith and the younger podcaster point out the democrats aren't really serious about fixing the problems that in many ways they caused, they're not even strong enough to deal with a softball interview that was rigged in their favor! The democrats are running purely on maintaining power, control, and their own corruption. Besides the democrat platform of nepotism and the issue of abortion they don't really have a position besides trying to beat Trump and they don't really have any grand vision of the future. Look at their supporters you will see none of them have any foresight at all, their motives are purely selfish.
 

ZNP

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Well even then they don't really make many promises besides abortion. Like both Stephen A Smith and the younger podcaster point out the democrats aren't really serious about fixing the problems that in many ways they caused, they're not even strong enough to deal with a softball interview that was rigged in their favor! The democrats are running purely on maintaining power, control, and their own corruption. Besides the democrat platform of nepotism and the issue of abortion they don't really have a position besides trying to beat Trump and they don't really have any grand vision of the future. Look at their supporters you will see none of them have any foresight at all, their motives are purely selfish.
Well I think right now they are focused on more significant issues like the passage of time. Kamala has made it very clear that the passage of time is very significant issue, when you think about it.
 

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Well I think right now they are focused on more significant issues like the passage of time. Kamala has made it very clear that the passage of time is very significant issue, when you think about it.
She would do well to read Ecclesiastes 12:1-7, and recognize that she's running out of it.
 

Nehemiah6

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The left is shrinking like a melting iceberg.
That would be nice, but given the number of low information voters and mindless Leftists (who do not even know why they chose the extreme Left) that is still up in the air.

The MSM are the influencers who brainwash the gullible to believe all the Leftist lies. Look at Dana Bash. There was no sense of responsibility for the future of the country. Just a stupid attempt to placate Harris, who even had the gall to say that she had no regrets about lying about Biden's fitness. So the immediate response from Bash should have been "You have also lied about all your policy positions (and I have the receipts), therefore should the public conclude that you will continue to be a shameless liar "with no regrets" if elected"?

Can you imagine the impact of that honest question if it went public because CNN had a shred of integrity? Harris had no way to wriggle out of that. She wanted an open border for 3 1/2 years, and now all of a sudden she wants a border wall? Is that not a blatant lie since she will NEVER build a border wall. She even went to Central America in order to avoid going to the border.
 

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ZNP

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That would be nice, but given the number of low information voters and mindless Leftists (who do not even know why they chose the extreme Left) that is still up in the air.

The MSM are the influencers who brainwash the gullible to believe all the Leftist lies. Look at Dana Bash. There was no sense of responsibility for the future of the country. Just a stupid attempt to placate Harris, who even had the gall to say that she had no regrets about lying about Biden's fitness. So the immediate response from Bash should have been "You have also lied about all your policy positions (and I have the receipts), therefore should the public conclude that you will continue to be a shameless liar "with no regrets" if elected"?

Can you imagine the impact of that honest question if it went public because CNN had a shred of integrity? Harris had no way to wriggle out of that. She wanted an open border for 3 1/2 years, and now all of a sudden she wants a border wall? Is that not a blatant lie since she will NEVER build a border wall. She even went to Central America in order to avoid going to the border.
Low information voters are the people most affected by grocery prices and layoffs. That is what they care about, that and illegals taking their jobs and WW3 taking their children.
 

Nehemiah6

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Low information voters are the people most affected by grocery prices and layoffs. That is what they care about, that and illegals taking their jobs and WW3 taking their children.
You do have a valid point. If every citizen (other than the elites) noticed how and why they cannot make ends meet, Harris might receive 100-200 votes at best.
 

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Apparently a fundraiser for the families of those charged in the J6 riot will be held at one of Donald's gold clubs. Trump was invited to speak but it appears he won't be in attendance. However, he did attend and speak at a similar event at the same club in June, 2023. Looks like even he can understand how incredibly bad this would look so close to the election.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...draiser-donald-trump-golf-course/74950071007/

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/ve...rses/536-0fd2116b-29a5-4c7a-98f3-83b0d8b19a7f
 

cv5

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Apparently a fundraiser for the families of those charged in the J6 riot will be held at one of Donald's gold clubs. Trump was invited to speak but it appears he won't be in attendance. However, he did attend and speak at a similar event at the same club in June, 2023. Looks like even he can understand how incredibly bad this would look so close to the election.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...draiser-donald-trump-golf-course/74950071007/

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/ve...rses/536-0fd2116b-29a5-4c7a-98f3-83b0d8b19a7f
Ooooohhhh J6. Scary.
 

ZNP

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You do have a valid point. If every citizen (other than the elites) noticed how and why they cannot make ends meet, Harris might receive 100-200 votes at best.
You overestimate how many people are struggling financially in this economy. The wealthiest 10% are not worried about paying the mortgage or grocery bills. They pay more attention to the value of their brokerage account and that has gone up with inflation. So the real number is closer to 36 million.
 

HeIsHere

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They have gone radical. As I said before, any true Christian friends I have have gone to another party. Namely conservative. They, rightly, say they cannot vote for Dems anymore, they have gone way too far, radical actually.
There is no Conservative party in the USA and there has not been since WW II.
 

Nehemiah6

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So the real number is closer to 36 million.
The Census Bureau said in 2023 that about 38 million Americans are living in poverty. So were you being sarcastic or just plainly misinformed when you said "You overestimate how many people are struggling financially in this economy". Did you mean "underestimate"? Or were you trying to be sarcastic?