Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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Well......the chief propogandists generally avoid prison. While the existing regime remains in power that is.

(1) Glenn Greenwald on X: "If Hillary's insanely repressive measure were implemented -- people spreading disinformation could be imprisoned -- the first two to share a prison cell should be her and Maddow, who drowned the country in the Steele Dossier, Afla Bank servers and other demented debunked lies." / X

If Hillary's insanely repressive measure were implemented -- people spreading disinformation could be imprisoned -- the first two to share a prison cell should be her and Maddow, who drowned the country in the Steele Dossier, Afla Bank servers and other demented debunked lies.
 

ResidentAlien

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There's an excellent document that reveals a blueprint and a plan for the Christianizing of the US: The Integration of Theory and Practice—A Program for the New Traditionalist Movement. It's written by Eric Heubeck but was commissioned by Paul Weyrich, who is covered in the film Bad Faith. It's basically a manifesto.

It's discussed quite a bit in Bad Faith and I was able to locate a copy and download it; however, when I went looking for it today all the links I tried didn't work. If you can find a copy it's worth a read. It's not very long; the PDF I have is only 12 pages. Here's a quote from page 4:

"We will use guerrilla tactics to undermine the legitimacy of the dominant regime. We will take advantage of every available opportunity to spread the idea that there is something fundamentally wrong with the existing state of affairs. For example, we could have every member of the movement put a bumper sticker on his car that says something to the effect of 'Public Education is Rotten: Homeschool Your Kids.' This will change nobody's mind immediately; no one will choose to stop sending his children to public schools immediately after seeing such a bumper sticker; but it will raise awareness and consciousness that there is a problem. Most of all, it will contribute to a vague sense of uneasiness and dissatisfaction with existing society. We need this if we hope to start picking people off and bringing them over to our side. We need to break down before we can build up. We must first clear away the flotsam of a decayed culture." (Underlining is mine.)​
Now I happen to think homeschooling is a good idea; however this paragraph exposes a very sinister motive and manipulation tactics. So you think the fear that's being spread by the right is by accident? Hardly, it's by design. The idea is to make people so afraid of the alternative they can't help but vote Republican. Trump is very fond of saying if you don't get him and MAGA back in there, "your country will be gone." This is extremely dishonest and I'd expect it from someone like the Donald; but this manifesto is from people who claim to be Christian, and all for political power.
 

cv5

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There's an excellent document that reveals a blueprint and a plan for the Christianizing of the US: The Integration of Theory and Practice—A Program for the New Traditionalist Movement. It's written by Eric Heubeck but was commissioned by Paul Weyrich, who is covered in the film Bad Faith. It's basically a manifesto.

It's discussed quite a bit in Bad Faith and I was able to locate a copy and download it; however, when I went looking for it today all the links I tried didn't work. If you can find a copy it's worth a read. It's not very long; the PDF I have is only 12 pages. Here's a quote from page 4:

"We will use guerrilla tactics to undermine the legitimacy of the dominant regime. We will take advantage of every available opportunity to spread the idea that there is something fundamentally wrong with the existing state of affairs. For example, we could have every member of the movement put a bumper sticker on his car that says something to the effect of 'Public Education is Rotten: Homeschool Your Kids.' This will change nobody's mind immediately; no one will choose to stop sending his children to public schools immediately after seeing such a bumper sticker; but it will raise awareness and consciousness that there is a problem. Most of all, it will contribute to a vague sense of uneasiness and dissatisfaction with existing society. We need this if we hope to start picking people off and bringing them over to our side. We need to break down before we can build up. We must first clear away the flotsam of a decayed culture." (Underlining is mine.)​
Now I happen to think homeschooling is a good idea; however this paragraph exposes a very sinister motive and manipulation tactics. So you think the fear that's being spread by the right is by accident? Hardly, it's by design. The idea is to make people so afraid of the alternative they can't help but vote Republican. Trump is very fond of saying if you don't get him and MAGA back in there, "your country will be gone." This is extremely dishonest and I'd expect it from someone like the Donald; but this manifesto is from people who claim to be Christian, and all for political power.
You had better get out there and preach little red book communism to stop this home schooling outrage.
 

cv5

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There you go. Illegal BTW.

(1) Futurist™ on X: "BREAKING NEWS, NOWHERE ELSE ON X: OHIO IS THE A CENTRAL POINT FOR REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT WITH A LABYRINTH OF AGENCIES FUNDED BY THE ADMINISTRATION (HARRIS) CRISOhio, Community Refugee and Immigration Services Inc., a RESETTLEMENT AGENCY for (refugees and immigrants) from Haiti, https://t.co/MqLeO80koZ" / X

BREAKING NEWS, NOWHERE ELSE ON X: OHIO IS THE A CENTRAL POINT FOR REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT WITH A LABYRINTH OF AGENCIES FUNDED BY THE ADMINISTRATION (HARRIS) CRISOhio, Community Refugee and Immigration Services Inc., a RESETTLEMENT AGENCY for (refugees and immigrants) from Haiti, Pakistan, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Cubans, Ukranians, etc. helps these asylees (as they call them) find jobs, receive housing, receive laptops, education, legal aid, childcare and more in OHIO.

They are an affiliate of Church World Service, with a cooperative agreement with the Department of State to directly receive and place refugees in our community. Yes the Dept of State funds them with your tax dollars!
 

cv5

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(1) Elon Musk on X: "Those granted asylum become citizens within 5 years, which is just over one Presidential election cycle and then vote overwhelmingly Democrat. This is why so many are being placed in large numbers in Arizona, Wisconsin, Ohio and other swing states. To create permanent" / X

Those granted asylum become citizens within 5 years, which is just over one Presidential election cycle and then vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

This is why so many are being placed in large numbers in Arizona, Wisconsin, Ohio and other swing states.

To create permanent one-party rule by the “Democrats”.
 

ResidentAlien

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There's an excellent document that reveals a blueprint and a plan for the Christianizing of the US: The Integration of Theory and Practice—A Program for the New Traditionalist Movement. It's written by Eric Heubeck but was commissioned by Paul Weyrich, who is covered in the film Bad Faith. It's basically a manifesto.

It's discussed quite a bit in Bad Faith and I was able to locate a copy and download it; however, when I went looking for it today all the links I tried didn't work. If you can find a copy it's worth a read. It's not very long; the PDF I have is only 12 pages. Here's a quote from page 4:

"We will use guerrilla tactics to undermine the legitimacy of the dominant regime. We will take advantage of every available opportunity to spread the idea that there is something fundamentally wrong with the existing state of affairs. For example, we could have every member of the movement put a bumper sticker on his car that says something to the effect of 'Public Education is Rotten: Homeschool Your Kids.' This will change nobody's mind immediately; no one will choose to stop sending his children to public schools immediately after seeing such a bumper sticker; but it will raise awareness and consciousness that there is a problem. Most of all, it will contribute to a vague sense of uneasiness and dissatisfaction with existing society. We need this if we hope to start picking people off and bringing them over to our side. We need to break down before we can build up. We must first clear away the flotsam of a decayed culture." (Underlining is mine.)​
Now I happen to think homeschooling is a good idea; however this paragraph exposes a very sinister motive and manipulation tactics. So you think the fear that's being spread by the right is by accident? Hardly, it's by design. The idea is to make people so afraid of the alternative they can't help but vote Republican. Trump is very fond of saying if you don't get him and MAGA back in there, "your country will be gone." This is extremely dishonest and I'd expect it from someone like the Donald; but this manifesto is from people who claim to be Christian, and all for political power.
Found a copy that can be read online. https://attackthesystem.com/2013/02...-program-for-the-new-traditionalist-movement/
 

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Zelensky needs more of the 3/10ths of the money Congress has sent. Much, much more.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

In War Is a Racket, Butler points to a variety of examples, mostly from World War I, where industrialists, whose operations were subsidized by public funding, were able to generate substantial profits, making money from mass human suffering.

The work is divided into five chapters:
  1. War is a racket
  2. Who makes the profits?
  3. Who pays the bills?
  4. How to smash this racket!
  5. To hell with war!

(1) @amuse on X: "UKRAINE: Democrats blocked the appointment of an inspector general to ensure aid sent to Zelensky wasn't stolen, wasted, or lost. Zelensky now admits that as much as 70% of aid sent never makes it to the battlefield. The Ukrainian president explained to CNN that he expected the https://t.co/tk9HIa65Xd" / X

UKRAINE: Democrats blocked the appointment of an inspector general to ensure aid sent to Zelensky wasn't stolen, wasted, or lost. Zelensky now admits that as much as 70% of aid sent never makes it to the battlefield. The Ukrainian president explained to CNN that he expected the most recent aid package to outfit 14 new brigades but by the time it made it to the battlefield it could barely outfit four. The president needs help and for some reason Senate Democrats refuse to allow any sort of oversight - it is almost that they want billions to be 'lost' to criminals.
 

cv5

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The Donald is the only guy I know who can lose money with a casino.


Well at least he did not lose somebody else's money (HINT: TAXPAYERS) on bogus endless scam wars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

In War Is a Racket, Butler points to a variety of examples, mostly from World War I, where industrialists, whose operations were subsidized by public funding, were able to generate substantial profits, making money from mass human suffering.

The work is divided into five chapters:
  1. War is a racket
  2. Who makes the profits?
  3. Who pays the bills?
  4. How to smash this racket!
  5. To hell with war!
 

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Wouldn't the FBI have found those odious materials when they raided Mar-a-Lago?
well, it's been many years from that interview and the raid on mar-a-lago. It could be at a different residence, or he could have read it so many times he didn't need it anymore. who knows. But i believe Ivana that he did read it.