Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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I don't disagree. But my point is more people will be wrong than right. You may well believe you have the timing right. I don't believe you do, and I get that from the same Bible you say is guiding you.
We'll see.
Every verse that says we don't know the day or the hour concludes with "watch therefore". The bible has given us many clues what to watch for.

The bible gives you two examples of no one knows the day or the hour. A pregnant woman, you don't know the day or the hour but you do know what to watch for. Also, a farmer watching to see when he should harvest the crops. Yes, two months before the harvest the farmer doesn't know, but two days before he does.

There is nothing new under the sun, that which has been is that which shall be. Jesus rebuked the Jews for not knowing the day of their visitation. It is the same today.

You could have and should have been able to know weeks or months before Jesus was crucified the day and hour that he would be crucified. All of that was already given to you in the Bible.

The Bible tells us two big signs we'll see right before the rapture.

1. A wedding where the world chooses the Antichrist and rejects Jesus.

and

2. Jerusalem surrounded by armies.
 

Cameron143

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Every verse that says we don't know the day or the hour concludes with "watch therefore". The bible has given us many clues what to watch for.

The bible gives you two examples of no one knows the day or the hour. A pregnant woman, you don't know the day or the hour but you do know what to watch for. Also, a farmer watching to see when he should harvest the crops. Yes, two months before the harvest the farmer doesn't know, but two days before he does.

There is nothing new under the sun, that which has been is that which shall be. Jesus rebuked the Jews for not knowing the day of their visitation. It is the same today.

You could have and should have been able to know weeks or months before Jesus was crucified the day and hour that he would be crucified. All of that was already given to you in the Bible.

The Bible tells us two big signs we'll see right before the rapture.

1. A wedding where the world chooses the Antichrist and rejects Jesus.

and

2. Jerusalem surrounded by armies.
Again, I don't disagree that one can know. I disagree on the timing.
 

true_believer

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No, Trump is the only President that Putin didn't attack anyone under since he was afraid of Trump. Kamala and Biden encouraged Putin to invade Ukraine, and that's what happened, Putin knows they're weak and they are corrupted by him as well, they give him military technology and intel and all sorts of stuff, they're double-dealers they will never be respected. As for debauchery probably not smart to remind us about Kamala being a literal homewrecker that slept her way to the top preying on married men.
That's quite the bundle of misinformation and exaggerations you unloaded there.
Kamala Harris did not sleep her way to top.
She had a long term relationship with a man who was separated from his wife who never got divorced. That's not being a "homewrecker" as you claimed.
Yet Trump has been unfaithful to all of his three wives. That's doesn't seem like the behaviour a family values person... unless he was Muslim.
 

ResidentAlien

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An acquaintance of mine sent me this video. The Youtuber is a former Christian, but he provides clear facts that expose Trump's false claims that cannot be ignored...

Of course he's a compulsive liar and only wants to save his own skin from the gray-bar hotel. But he's a useful tool for the agendas of a lot of people so he's given a pass.
 

true_believer

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Of course he's a liar and only wants to save his own skin from the gray-bar hotel. But he's a useful tool for the agendas of a lot of people so he's given a pass.
There are clear smoking guns everywhere exposing Trump. But many have blinders on for some reason.
 

ResidentAlien

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There are clear smoking guns everywhere exposing Trump. But many have blinders on for some reason.
They have tunnel vision. They think the Donald is the one who will take retribution on all the injustices they feel have been inflicted on them. That's all that matters. The end justifies any means necessary.
 

Cameron143

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They have tunnel vision. They think the Donald is the one who will take retribution on all the injustices they feel have been inflicted on them. That's all that matters. The end justifies any means necessary.
Name them please. I'd like to know who those are who believe the ends justify the means.
 

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That's quite the bundle of misinformation and exaggerations you unloaded there.
Kamala Harris did not sleep her way to top.
She had a long term relationship with a man who was separated from his wife who never got divorced. That's not being a "homewrecker" as you claimed.
Yet Trump has been unfaithful to all of his three wives. That's doesn't seem like the behaviour a family values person... unless he was Muslim.

We've already been through the links and the news about Russia when the last wojack demanded sources so any claim of misinformation is simply a lie and their talking point that they heard from her own vapid mouth, damning is the double-dealing they have done on foreign policy with Russia, China, Iran, and much more. Kamala is no new entity to me she has been on the radar for at least a decade for the careful political observer. Kamala is an infamous "Frat hoe" according to Judge Joe Brown, even besides his dig into her colelge past she's been through three known high profile men, and maybe much more looking at her rise to federal status due to Obama. She has been through Willie Brown and he was married at the time and promoted her, and this is a famous fact. Then she was with Montel and he also was married at the time. And of course Doug Emhoff whom was also married, cheated on his rightful wife and has admitted it. One might excuse it as being representative of an evil generation as a whole much like Trump, but there is a difference betwen the two adutlerers. Trump went with women that had no kids and he had kids of his own and he the real father to his children. Kamala the whore has no children of her own, she's evil and gaslights the children of her evil sinful unlawful hell-spouses into calling her mom and usurping the title of mother, one of the two most sacred status of a woman in general. Where as Trump gumped out and actually paid his ex-wives and mistresses and gave them all they wanted despite the evil they did to him too, Kamala is a predatory fornicator, a true Jezebel, she sucks all the power out of the men and then she coldly and callously discards her ex-lovers ,moving on to the next, whatever wil lget her more secular power.
 

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SonJudgment

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They have tunnel vision. They think the Donald is the one who will take retribution on all the injustices they feel have been inflicted on them. That's all that matters. The end justifies any means necessary.
Nah Trump will at worst fire their elites and maybe shame them a little bit, some of the lefties will scream in rage at God in the sky and the Lord will laugh them off from on high. The more sensible commonman leftists will have to do the thing they fear most and come to terms with their evil ego and that they been played as fools and slaves by even more wicked elite and they will have to self-reflect and consider in their hearts that they might too be blessed through repenting and reforming. Many will make memes still and then people will move on and try to fix the mess the democrats caused. Don't worry if you're not inveigled into their corrupt elite, you can still laugh at Trump's dance moves on Soul Train and the State won't cancel culture you.

 

ThereRoseaLamb

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That's quite the bundle of misinformation and exaggerations you unloaded there.
Kamala Harris did not sleep her way to top.
She had a long term relationship with a man who was separated from his wife who never got divorced. That's not being a "homewrecker" as you claimed.
She had a sexual relationship with a powerful man that helped her on her way to where she's ended up. He was married, that is adultery, period. Brown appointed her to two posts, the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, and later the Medical Assistance Commission. To say he didn't help with her career is a lie.


Yet Trump has been unfaithful to all of his three wives. That's doesn't seem like the behaviour a family values person... unless he was Muslim.
Sin is sin is sin. So they all have a past, Biden, Trump, Harris and her husband. Puts everyone on equal ground so far as family values . Shoot we have pastors that have been divorced and married more than once.
 

SonJudgment

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She had a sexual relationship with a powerful man that helped her on her way to where she's ended up. He was married, that is adultery, period. Brown appointed her to two posts, the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, and later the Medical Assistance Commission. To say he didn't help with her career is a lie.




Sin is sin is sin. So they all have a past, Biden, Trump, Harris and her husband. Puts everyone on equal ground so far as family values . Shoot we have pastors that have been divorced and married more than once.
Kamala's sin is worse, it's not just the act itself of adultery, which she has done multiple times to the point of establishing a pattern, don't think Willie is the only one, he's just the first one known about. Look at it beyond just the act but how she usurps and gaslights on what the family is supposed to be. From the standpoint of the Son we're basically being asked to pick between our adulterous simp father, who is at least our real father who at least wants good for us, and a classic evil stepmother that is the slut that ruined our parents' marriage and thus our family for her own selfish pleasure and to maintain her commitment to the lies of Satan and even promote this sort of abomination as if it were normal or even to be celebrated. So is the clear choice between the blessings and the curses ever more clear. Return your hearts to your real fathers, cast the daughter of Jezebel out.

Malachi 4

1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.

4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
 
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Kamala's sin is worse, it's not just the act itself of adultery, which she has done multiple times to the point of establishing a pattern, don't think Willie is the only one, he's just the first one known about. Look at it beyond just the act but how she usurps and gaslights on what the family is supposed to be. From the standpoint of the Son we're basically being asked to pick between our adulterous simp father, who is at least our real father who at least wants good for us, and a classic evil stepmother that is the slut that ruined our parents' marriage and thus our family for her own selfish pleasure and to maintain her commitment to the lies of Satan and even promote this sort of abomination as if it were normal or even to be celebrated. So is the clear choice between the blessings and the curses ever more clear. Return your hearts to your real fathers, cast the daughter of Jezebel out.

Malachi 4

1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.

4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Donald Trump cheated on his wife.Shouldn’t you at least say that he’s a bad choice too?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Donald Trump cheated on his wife.Shouldn’t you at least say that he’s a bad choice too?

Was already stated, they are all on the same grounds morally. Although apparently someone has accused her husband of hitting them. I don't know if it's the woman he had an affair with or not. True or not I don't know.
 

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We've already been through the links and the news about Russia when the last wojack demanded sources so any claim of misinformation is simply a lie and their talking point that they heard from her own vapid mouth, damning is the double-dealing they have done on foreign policy with Russia, China, Iran, and much more. Kamala is no new entity to me she has been on the radar for at least a decade for the careful political observer. Kamala is an infamous "Frat hoe" according to Judge Joe Brown, even besides his dig into her colelge past she's been through three known high profile men, and maybe much more looking at her rise to federal status due to Obama. She has been through Willie Brown and he was married at the time and promoted her, and this is a famous fact. Then she was with Montel and he also was married at the time. And of course Doug Emhoff whom was also married, cheated on his rightful wife and has admitted it. One might excuse it as being representative of an evil generation as a whole much like Trump, but there is a difference betwen the two adutlerers. Trump went with women that had no kids and he had kids of his own and he the real father to his children. Kamala the whore has no children of her own, she's evil and gaslights the children of her evil sinful unlawful hell-spouses into calling her mom and usurping the title of mother, one of the two most sacred status of a woman in general. Where as Trump gumped out and actually paid his ex-wives and mistresses and gave them all they wanted despite the evil they did to him too, Kamala is a predatory fornicator, a true Jezebel, she sucks all the power out of the men and then she coldly and callously discards her ex-lovers ,moving on to the next, whatever wil lget her more secular power.
Kamala is a predatory fornicator? That's hilarious. But of course very false.
Since Trump gave alimony to his first two wives, and the women he cheated with were childless, that makes his infidelity less sinful that Kamala's alleged sexual exploits? And that makes makes him a credible vanguard of
evangelicals and conservatives values? Hahaha. The right has obviously adopted quite the sliding-scale of moral values to justify their support of Donald Trump.
 

ZNP

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I just drove over 500 miles in the state of Minnesota, with most of my time in the twin cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul. I was attentive to yard signs and bumper stickers. There were a lot of political signs up, but not for Harris/Walz. Outside of the Twin cities it was clearly 100% for Trump without any signs at all to the contrary. Within the Twin cities it seemed much closer to 50/50 with far fewer signs for either than I would have expected.

About 20% of the state lives in the twin cities and 80% out of it, so based on this view of what should be a Democratic stronghold I would say Mn will go to Trump by a significant margin.
 

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These polls are looking good...
Here’s the trend for the past 11 days:

The most recent end-of-day electoral vote forecast (270 needed to win):

  • Rebublican: Trump/Vance (304)
  • Democratic: Harris/Walz (234)
The vice presidential debate had an influence on forecasted electoral votes, with Vance showing a slight advantage over Walz. Most movement in October has been in the direction of the Republican ticket:

  • September 30: Harris/Walz (308), Trump/Vance (230)
  • October 1: Harris/Walz (302), Trump/Vance (236) VP Debate
  • October 2: Harris/Walz (292), Trump/Vance (246)
  • October 3: Harris/Walz (298), Trump/Vance (240)
  • October 4: Harris/Walz (288), Trump/Vance (250)
  • October 5: Harris/Walz (283), Trump/Vance (255)
  • October 6: Harris/Walz (283), Trump/Vance (255)
  • October 7: Harris/Walz (268), Trump/Vance (270)
  • October 8: Harris/Walz (268), Trump/Vance (270)
  • October 9: Harris/Walz (263), Trump/Vance (275)
  • October 10: Harris/Walz (234), Trump/Vance (304)

  • https://www.virtualtout.com/