Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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seed_time_harvest

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Cameron143 said:
Wouldn't that make Kelly a Fascist? If he wasn't, why didn't he quit? Would you work for a Fascist? Why did Kelly?
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zI imagine they came to a conclusion about trump over time and they was hopeful that trump would do the right thing,IDK what the reason for continuing to work for him was but John Kelly wasn't the only one that felt this way.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4953059-trump-john-kelly-fascist/

More than a dozen former Trump administration officials signed on to an open letter backing comments from former White House chief of staff John Kelly in which he said former President Trump met the definition of a fascist and expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler.

“The revelations General Kelly brought forward are disturbing and shocking,” the officials wrote. “But because we know Trump and have worked for and alongside him, we were sadly not surprised by what General Kelly had to say. This is who Donald Trump is.”


The letter was signed by several prominent critics of Trump, including some who have publicly endorsed Vice President Harris in the 2024 election. It echoed many of the themes the Harris campaign has warned about in the closing stretch of the election, including that Trump wants “unchecked power” and that he would have fewer guardrails in a second term.

“Everyone should heed General Kelly’s warning. We have witnessed, up close and personal, how Donald Trump operates and what he is capable of,” the former officials wrote.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
zI imagine they came to a conclusion about trump over time and they was hopeful that trump would do the right thing,IDK what the reason for continuing to work for him was but John Kelly wasn't the only one that felt this way.

Source:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4953059-trump-john-kelly-fascist/

More than a dozen former Trump administration officials signed on to an open letter backing comments from former White House chief of staff John Kelly in which he said former President Trump met the definition of a fascist and expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler.

“The revelations General Kelly brought forward are disturbing and shocking,” the officials wrote. “But because we know Trump and have worked for and alongside him, we were sadly not surprised by what General Kelly had to say. This is who Donald Trump is.”


The letter was signed by several prominent critics of Trump, including some who have publicly endorsed Vice President Harris in the 2024 election. It echoed many of the themes the Harris campaign has warned about in the closing stretch of the election, including that Trump wants “unchecked power” and that he would have fewer guardrails in a second term.

“Everyone should heed General Kelly’s warning. We have witnessed, up close and personal, how Donald Trump operates and what he is capable of,” the former officials wrote.
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Those who oppose Trump in DC are those who will lose money and possibly be exposed as corrupt if Trump returns to office. You are a bit naive about the state of American politics and the corruption that has become so prevalent in Washington. Be glad there are patriots who are looking out for your interests.
 
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Dude653 said:
You mean the domestic terrorists who tried to commit sedition and got themselves killed in the process?
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No, I mean the protestors that were protesting on public ground at the public ceremony that was open to the public and got murdered in cold blood. Then the corrupt regime hunted the rest down for just being on public ground and protesting against them. What they did to those people is worse than the Kent State Massacre. No wonder the facist democrats fear reprisal. We gotta fight the fascists and get Trump in office to save democracy.
 
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No, I mean the protestors that were protesting on public ground at the public ceremony that was open to the public and got murdered in cold blood. Then the corrupt regime hunted the rest down for just being on public ground and protesting against them. What they did to those people is worse than the Kent State Massacre. No wonder the facist democrats fear reprisal. We gotta fight the fascists and get Trump in office to save democracy.
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Your brainwashed. They forcefully stormed a government building and tried to violently stop an inauguration.
Every person who entered that building should have been prosecuted for sedition
 
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Your brainwashed. They forcefully stormed a government building and tried to violently stop an inauguration.
Every person who entered that building should have been prosecuted for sedition
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Nah you're brainwashed. Capitol is public property, the Jan 6th ceremony has always been open to the public for its whole history. The violence was one way, done to the protestors, not the other way around. Then you have the aftermath too where they hunt down thousands of them just for being on public ground and protesting, that's pretty heinous, not even some of the biggest fascists in history went that far. The democrats are going to carry that shame for a long time, everytime they lie and open their mouths to talk about fascism on their forked tongues they'll be reminded.
 
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Nah you're brainwashed. Capitol is public property, the Jan 6th ceremony has always been open to the public for its whole history. The violence was one way, done to the protestors, not the other way around. Then you have the aftermath too where they hunt down thousands of them just for being on public ground and protesting, that's pretty heinous, not even some of the biggest fascists in history went that far. The democrats are going to carry that shame for a long time, everytime they lie and open their mouths to talk about fascism on their forked tongues they'll be reminded.
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The inauguration is open to anyone who purchases a ticket. It's not open to just storm in.
It's also not open to violent processtors who were there threatening to kill. Mike pence
 
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Cameron143 said:
Those who oppose Trump in DC are those who will lose money and possibly be exposed as corrupt if Trump returns to office. You are a bit naive about the state of American politics and the corruption that has become so prevalent in Washington. Be glad there are patriots who are looking out for your interests.
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You ignorant of what a patriot is.
 
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Dude653 said:
The inauguration is open to anyone who purchases a ticket. It's not open to just storm in.
It's also not open to violent processtors who were there threatening to kill. Mike pence
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Now you're either confused or purposefully conflating two different events. Jan 6th was not the inauguration, it is the certification ceremony and it always has been open to the public, no tickets required. So again, the democrats are the fascists, they murdered four people in cold blood, they lied about it for years, they hunted down innocent people who merely were on public property at a public event. Every single time they try to talk about fascism on their forked tongues full of lies they'll be reminded of how much shame belongs to them. We'll save democracy from the democrats' fascist grip, we'll get Trump and we'll praise Jesus.
 
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SonJudgment said:
Now you're either confused or purposefully conflating two different events. Jan 6th was not the inauguration, it is the certification ceremony and it always has been open to the public, no tickets required. So again, the democrats are the fascists, they murdered four people in cold blood, they lied about it for years, they hunted down innocent people who merely were on public property at a public event. Every single time they try to talk about fascism on their forked tongues full of lies they'll be reminded of how much shame belongs to them. We'll save democracy from them, we'll get Trump and we'll praise Jesus.
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They were chanting. Hang Mike fence.
They literally built a gallows on the lawn
Some of them were carrying zip ties which meant lay intended to take hostages.
 
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Dude653 said:
They were chanting. Hang Mike fence.
They literally built a gallows on the lawn
Some of them were carrying zip ties which meant lay intended to take hostages.
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That doesn't mean anything any more than those that held signs up that stated ACAB and wore masks running around the city for BLM. Both had a right to protest and they don't have to cater to you. Here's the difference, Trump didn't murder any single one of the BLM protestors, nor did he hunt down any single participant in those. What is fascist is you know, murdering four peaceful protestors in cold blood, making a serious propaganda effort to lie about the event, and then hunting down the others just for merely being on public property and speaking out against them. What's their real crime to the fascist democrat regime, not believing in their big rig? Disgusting levels of fascism from the democrats they' did even worse than Nixon murdering the Kent State four, and they will be reminded of their shame every single time they dare to talk about fascism on their forked tongues. Their regime is done, we're going to save democracy from them by getting Trump back in office.
 
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That doesn't mean anything any more than those that held signs up that stated ACAB and wore masks running around the city for BLM. Both had a right to protest and they don't have to cater to you. Here's the difference, Trump didn't murder any single one of the BLM protestors, nor did he hunt down any single participant in those. What is fascist is you know, murdering four peaceful protestors in cold blood, making a serious propaganda effort to lie about the event, and then hunting down the others just for merely being on public property and speaking out against them. What's their real crime to the fascist democrat regime, not believing in their big rig? Disgusting levels of fascism from the democrats they' did even worse than Nixon murdering the Kent State four, and they will be reminded of their shame every single time they dare to talk about fascism on their forked tongues. Their regime is done, we're going to save democracy from them by getting Trump back in office.
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Whataboutism
False equivalency
 
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Dude653 said:
Whataboutism
False equivalency
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Not a false equivalency, just a true example to divide the hypocrites from the just. The fascist democrats are going to bear that shame for a while, every time they want to talk about fascism we'll throw it straight into their faces. You can stay with Negan and be a fascist hypocrite if you want, but Rick Grimes going to get justice in the end and save democracy just like we're going to get Trump back and put an end to your fascist regime.
 
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Not a false equivalency, just a true example to divide the hypocrites from the just. The fascist democrats are going to bear that shame for a while, every time they want to talk about fascism we'll throw it straight into their faces. You can stay with Negan and be a fascist hypocrite if you want, but Rick Grimes going to get justice in the end and save democracy just like we're going to get Trump back and put an end to your fascist regime.
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Saying all cops are bad.... First amendment Free speech

Threatening to kill government officials.... Not first amendment Free speech
 
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Dude653 said:
Saying all cops are bad.... First amendment Free speech

Threatening to kill government officials.... Not first amendment Free speech
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They just said hang Mike Pence, they didn't say they'd do it. It's the same as saying pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon. Nothing wrong with either one unless you're a hypocrite of course. Both protests were justified, all the pageantry and slogans used in the protests are just fine. It's protest, it ain't a dinner party.
 
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I've paid far more attention to Kamala than I ever imagined I would with a presidential candidate, listening to her interviews, speeches, and so on. I suspect that many people, even people who are her partisans, are realizing something quite shocking. It's this: she knows less about policy, news, existing public controversies, and even recent history, than most people who read X or NYT or even just listen to the news on radio or TV. For that matter, I suspect that just about any person on the street knows more. It's like she hasn't really paid much attention to anything for years. Interviewers are trying their best to be kind to her, but even the slightest bit of push on what she knows turns up a big nothing. It's not that she is being cagey or clever. The trouble is that she truly does not know.

Jeffrey A Tucker on X: "I've paid far more attention to Kamala than I ever imagined I would with a presidential candidate, listening to her interviews, speeches, and so on. I suspect that many people, even people who are her partisans, are realizing something quite shocking. It's this: she knows less" / X
 
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