Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[SonJudgment]

If I stole $100,000 from you and then went to prison. It is not mercy to pardon me. What about you? Now if he paid you $500,000 and you in turn said you had been made whole then sure, you can let me out of prison and that is mercy.

This "pardon" is not mercy.

There are many, many people who were harmed by these events with Hunter and to "pardon" him for it while ignoring the harm he did, that is not mercy, that is sin.

It is mercy, even the pardon implies he erred, we all know he's guilty, we all know he's a screw up, but he is being pardoned of his offenses. Do you really expect a father to destroy his only son? I sure don't. Even David mourned Absalom and would have spared his life after all that evil Absalom did in usurping him for but a brief moment, but it is like Joab that pursues blood forever even after the battle is already won. There is a bigger picture here than endlessly destroying our own people, we have a kingdom to run and it is still in a fragile position after the democrats' fallen reign and coup.

 

[ZNP]

It is mercy, even the pardon implies he erred, we all know he's guilty, we all know he's a screw up, but he is being pardoned of his offenses. Do you really expect a father to destroy his only son? I sure don't. Even David mourned Absalom and would have spared his life after all that evil Absalom did in usurping him for but a brief moment, but it is like Joab that pursues blood forever even after the battle is already won. There is a bigger picture here than endlessly destroying our own people, we have a kingdom to run and it is still in a fragile position after the democrats' fallen reign and coup.

Proverbs 16:6 By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the Lord men depart from evil.

Is any iniquity being purged by this? No. Is there any fear of the Lord here causing men to depart from evil? No.

Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Biden is trying to cover his sins. That is not mercy.

Deuteronomy 7:2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: 3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

Psalm 37:21 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.

You have to pay for the sins. Jesus showed mercy on us by paying for our sins.

Psalm 62:12 Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.

James tells us that the point of the golden rule to do unto others as you would have them do unto you is that if you show mercy to others then God will show you mercy. Did Hunter Biden show mercy to anyone? How about Joe Biden? January 6th is proof they did not show anyone mercy, and so as they have done it will be done unto them. With what judgement you judge you shall be judged.

James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

 

[SonJudgment]

Proverbs 16:6 By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the Lord men depart from evil.

Is any iniquity being purged by this? No. Is there any fear of the Lord here causing men to depart from evil? No.

Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Biden is trying to cover his sins. That is not mercy.

Deuteronomy 7:2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: 3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

Psalm 37:21 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.

You have to pay for the sins. Jesus showed mercy on us by paying for our sins.

Psalm 62:12 Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.

James tells us that the point of the golden rule to do unto others as you would have them do unto you is that if you show mercy to others then God will show you mercy. Did Hunter Biden show mercy to anyone? How about Joe Biden? January 6th is proof they did not show anyone mercy, and so as they have done it will be done unto them. With what judgement you judge you shall be judged.

James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

Actually yes the iniquity that's going to get purged is the despicable lies and efforts against the J6 hostages and all those that participated in that valiant protest. The democrat coup and regime is over and God will re-establish the kingdom of the USA into our hands to the end that we will trully Make America Great Again. We don't expect a father to destroy his only son, good is the word you have spoken about judgment, and so the judgment will be this; that we will certainly get those people from J6 out of prison now and even elevate them to a position of honor.

 

[ZNP]

Actually yes the iniquity that's going to get purged is the despicable lies and efforts against the J6 hostages and all those that participated in that valiant protest. The democrat coup and regime is over and God will re-establish the kingdom of the USA into our hands to the end that we will trully Make America Great Again. We don't expect a father to destroy his only son, good is the word you have spoken about judgment, and so the judgment will be this; that we will certainly get those people from J6 out of prison now and even elevate them to a position of honor.

Jesus paid the price first before anyone got forgiven.

Biden's attempt to pardon his son is a check that will bounce.

James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

 

[cv5]

Looks like the EU prog elites are using the same old worn-out playbook.

Romanian Officials Want Election "Redo" - Claim Russian Interference After Right Wing Candidate Win

Russia, Russia, Russia!!!

 

[SonJudgment]

Jesus paid the price first before anyone got forgiven.

Biden's attempt to pardon his son is a check that will bounce.

James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

Sure but we're not talking about the ultimate judgment day though that day will indeed come. Until then we should do prudently with what the Lord has given us. I am just curious, if I remember right were you one that said they were at J6? To be frank I kinda always get you confused with cv5 so I forget if it was you or him that was there.

 

[ZNP]

Sure but we're not talking about the ultimate judgment day though that day will indeed come. Until then we should do prudently with what the Lord has given us. I am just curious, if I remember right were you one that said they were at J6? To be frank I kinda always get you confused with cv5 so I forget if it was you or him that was there.

Sort of. I was at the Whitehouse, never went to the Capital building.

 

[SonJudgment]

Sort of. I was at the Whitehouse, never went to the Capital building.

Aw you didn't even climb the wall and obtain the Corona Muralis? I wonder then is this why your wrath burns against them so brightly that you would expect a father to destroy his only son?

 

[ZNP]

Aw you didn't even climb the wall and obtain the Corona Muralis? I wonder then is this why your wrath burns against them so brightly that you would expect a father to destroy his only son?

Read my posts, it is the Bible that informs them. I do not see anything but your opinion in your posts.

There are two sides to appreciating the Lord's mercy. One side is appreciating the price He paid, the other side is being disgusted with those who try to cheapen mercy.

Satan would not have accepted the Lord's redemption if the price had not been paid in full and yet that is precisely what he likes to call it when he pulls something like this. What Biden is doing is evil and Satanic, calling it "mercy" is cruel and inhuman to those who have been victims of Hunter's crimes.

 

[ZNP]

Aw you didn't even climb the wall and obtain the Corona Muralis? I wonder then is this why your wrath burns against them so brightly that you would expect a father to destroy his only son?

My wrath burns so brightly because I remember the woke mob. They destroyed people over some joke they had said twenty years earlier that was now deemed unacceptable. These are the same people who ignored the evidence of election fraud and slandered people who raised questions over the election and wanted an audit done.

Now these same people who have not shown any mercy to anyone but have treated trivial issues like trespassing as being treasonous, these same people are asking for mercy?

1 Samuel 15:17 So Samuel said, “When you were little in your own eyes, were you not head of the tribes of Israel? And did not the Lord anoint you king over Israel? 18 Now the Lord sent you on a mission, and said, ‘Go, and utterly destroy the sinners, the Amalekites, and fight against them until they are [b]consumed.’ 19 Why then did you not obey the voice of the Lord? Why did you swoop down on the [c]spoil, and do evil in the sight of the Lord?”

20 And Saul said to Samuel, “But I have obeyed the voice of the Lord, and gone on the mission on which the Lord sent me, and brought back Agag king of Amalek; I have utterly destroyed the Amalekites. 21 But the people took of the plunder, sheep and oxen, the best of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice to the Lord your God in Gilgal.”

22 So Samuel said:

“Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,
As in obeying the voice of the Lord?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice,
And to heed than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of [d]witchcraft,
And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the Lord,
He also has rejected you from being king.”
24 Then Saul said to Samuel, “I have sinned, for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord and your words, because I feared the people and obeyed their voice. 25 Now therefore, please pardon my sin, and return with me, that I may worship the Lord.”

26 But Samuel said to Saul, “I will not return with you, for you have rejected the word of the Lord, and the Lord has rejected you from being king over Israel.”

27 And as Samuel turned around to go away, Saul seized the edge of his robe, and it tore. 28 So Samuel said to him, “The Lord has torn the kingdom of Israel from you today, and has given it to a neighbor of yours, who is better than you. 29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor relent. For He is not a man, that He should relent.”

30 Then he said, “I have sinned; yet honor me now, please, before the elders of my people and before Israel, and return with me, that I may worship the Lord your God.” 31 So Samuel turned back after Saul, and Saul worshiped the Lord.

32 Then Samuel said, “Bring Agag king of the Amalekites here to me.” So Agag came to him cautiously.

And Agag said, “Surely the bitterness of death is past.”

33 But Samuel said, “As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless among women.” And Samuel hacked Agag in pieces before the Lord in Gilgal.

 

[SonJudgment]

Read my posts, it is the Bible that informs them. I do not see anything but your opinion in your posts.

There are two sides to appreciating the Lord's mercy. One side is appreciating the price He paid, the other side is being disgusted with those who try to cheapen mercy.

I read your posts, I am not so opinionated as you might think. The Bible also informs my views which have been fairly accurate so far in this epic saga topic not for any intelligence of myself or special reason, but because frankly alot of them seem to me very obvious. This is why I am asking you directly as a question rather than making a statement of assertion about you.

 

[SonJudgment]

My wrath burns so brightly because I remember the woke mob. They destroyed people over some joke they had said twenty years earlier that was now deemed unacceptable. These are the same people who ignored the evidence of election fraud and slandered people who raised questions over the election and wanted an audit done.

Now these same people who have not shown any mercy to anyone but have treated trivial issues like trespassing as being treasonous, these same people are asking for mercy?

1 Samuel 15:17 So Samuel said, “When you were little in your own eyes, were you not head of the tribes of Israel? And did not the Lord anoint you king over Israel? 18 Now the Lord sent you on a mission, and said, ‘Go, and utterly destroy the sinners, the Amalekites, and fight against them until they are [b]consumed.’ 19 Why then did you not obey the voice of the Lord? Why did you swoop down on the [c]spoil, and do evil in the sight of the Lord?”

20 And Saul said to Samuel, “But I have obeyed the voice of the Lord, and gone on the mission on which the Lord sent me, and brought back Agag king of Amalek; I have utterly destroyed the Amalekites. 21 But the people took of the plunder, sheep and oxen, the best of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice to the Lord your God in Gilgal.”

22 So Samuel said:

“Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,
As in obeying the voice of the Lord?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice,
And to heed than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of [d]witchcraft,
And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the Lord,
He also has rejected you from being king.”
24 Then Saul said to Samuel, “I have sinned, for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord and your words, because I feared the people and obeyed their voice. 25 Now therefore, please pardon my sin, and return with me, that I may worship the Lord.”

26 But Samuel said to Saul, “I will not return with you, for you have rejected the word of the Lord, and the Lord has rejected you from being king over Israel.”

27 And as Samuel turned around to go away, Saul seized the edge of his robe, and it tore. 28 So Samuel said to him, “The Lord has torn the kingdom of Israel from you today, and has given it to a neighbor of yours, who is better than you. 29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor relent. For He is not a man, that He should relent.”

30 Then he said, “I have sinned; yet honor me now, please, before the elders of my people and before Israel, and return with me, that I may worship the Lord your God.” 31 So Samuel turned back after Saul, and Saul worshiped the Lord.

32 Then Samuel said, “Bring Agag king of the Amalekites here to me.” So Agag came to him cautiously.

And Agag said, “Surely the bitterness of death is past.”

33 But Samuel said, “As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless among women.” And Samuel hacked Agag in pieces before the Lord in Gilgal.

Ah now this I can understand this, they have been pricks to us, that is for certain. Yet I would not make a father destroy his own son when we have already won lest the indignation be too great and the Lord turn his hand again and cut our nation into factions and pieces.

2 Kings 3:26-27

26 And when the king of Moab saw that the battle was too sore for him, he took with him seven hundred men that drew swords, to break through even unto the king of Edom: but they could not.
27 Then he took his eldest son that should have reigned in his stead, and offered him for a burnt offering upon the wall. And there was great indignation against Israel: and they departed from him, and returned to their own land.

 

[ZNP]

Ah now this I can understand this, they have been pricks to us, that is for certain. Yet I would not make a father destroy his own son when we have already won lest the indignation be too great and the Lord turn his hand again and cut our nation into factions and pieces.

2 Kings 3:26-27

26 And when the king of Moab saw that the battle was too sore for him, he took with him seven hundred men that drew swords, to break through even unto the king of Edom: but they could not.
27 Then he took his eldest son that should have reigned in his stead, and offered him for a burnt offering upon the wall. And there was great indignation against Israel: and they departed from him, and returned to their own land.

This is not applicable. Biden did not convict his son. I'm not asking him to prosecute and convict his son for his crimes. I am saying that the crimes must be paid for. Mercy doesn't mean you sweep things under the rug, it means you pay for the crime when the criminal couldn't pay for it.

I am also saying as you have done it will be done unto you. If you have not shown mercy to others and it is very clear these last four years that the Biden crime family has not shown any mercy to anyone, then mercy will not be shown to you.

In the story you quote an evil man makes his son pay for his crimes. In this story with Joe Biden he is trying to cover up his own crimes by pardoning his son so his son won't rat him out.

 

[SonJudgment]

This is not applicable. Biden did not convict his son. I'm not asking him to prosecute and convict his son for his crimes. I am saying that the crimes must be paid for. Mercy doesn't mean you sweep things under the rug, it means you pay for the crime when the criminal couldn't pay for it.

I am also saying as you have done it will be done unto you. If you have not shown mercy to others and it is very clear these last four years that the Biden crime family has not shown any mercy to anyone, then mercy will not be shown to you.

In the story you quote an evil man makes his son pay for his crimes. In this story with Joe Biden he is trying to cover up his own crimes by pardoning his son so his son won't rat him out.

Their crime of pretty openly rigging an election and usurping power unrightly and gaslighting and vilifying the J6 protestors will be paid. That is for certain now and this pardon seals that deal as our good and wise steward Trump even now hints at. We won't devolve into endless vengeance, for vengeance was never our goal. It is enough that we will right the wrongs they have done, that the Lord has re-established the kingdom into our hands and entrusted us to restore truth and order.

 

[gb9]

Looks like the EU prog elites are using the same old worn-out playbook.

Romanian Officials Want Election "Redo" - Claim Russian Interference After Right Wing Candidate Win

Russia, Russia, Russia!!!

it is like watching the same movie over and over and over...

 

[ZNP]

it is like watching the same movie over and over and over...

It is like pulling on a chain and up it comes, buried under ground and leading to all kinds of filth, and criminality.

 

[gb9]

It is like pulling on a chain and up it comes, buried under ground and leading to all kinds of filth, and criminality.

when i lived out in the country, i have had the real life experience of finding a what i thought was a little piece of wire or chain or rope on the ground, picking it up, and watching a lot more come up out of the ground..

 

[ZNP]

Their crime of pretty openly rigging an election and usurping power unrightly and gaslighting and vilifying the J6 protestors will be paid. That is for certain now and this pardon seals that deal as our good and wise steward Trump even now hints at. We won't devolve into endless vengeance, for vengeance was never our goal. It is enough that we will right the wrongs they have done, that the Lord has re-established the kingdom into our hands and entrusted us to restore truth and order.

With God there is forgiveness that He might be feared. Everyone involved has the opportunity to confess, repent and bring forth fruit worthy of repentance which in this case would be detailed account of all crimes and everyone involved and what they did. Because of that we will get to the very bottom of this and root out all the deep state. That includes the two assassination attempts on Trump. That includes phony lawfare against Trump, Bannon, and others. That includes all the media that helped push a phony agenda and lied and slandered others. And yes, that includes the part that Hunter Biden played and Jim Biden and Jill Biden. This is justice, not vengeance.

There is a reason that God has raised up Trump for such a time as this, and that is because this is the kind of job he will not wimp out of doing.

I have told people repeatedly, Trump has never claimed to be a savior, rather the only thing he has promised is to drain the swamp and bring retribution. He is the jawbone of the ass that Jesus will use to kill heaps and heaps of Philistines.

 

[Smoke]

Just because Hunter has been pardoned does not mean that Kash cannot investigate. Also I highly doubt that a blanket pardon for any unknown crimes he may have committed over the last ten years will hold up.

Yeah, I hope it's not a thing to blanket pardon someone. I would think the actual crime would have to be spelled out if it is to be pardoned.

 

[SonJudgment]

With God there is forgiveness that He might be feared. Everyone involved has the opportunity to confess, repent and bring forth fruit worthy of repentance which in this case would be detailed account of all crimes and everyone involved and what they did. Because of that we will get to the very bottom of this and root out all the deep state. That includes the two assassination attempts on Trump. That includes phony lawfare against Trump, Bannon, and others. That includes all the media that helped push a phony agenda and lied and slandered others. And yes, that includes the part that Hunter Biden played and Jim Biden and Jill Biden. This is justice, not vengeance.

There is a reason that God has raised up Trump for such a time as this, and that is because this is the kind of job he will not wimp out of doing.

I have told people repeatedly, Trump has never claimed to be a savior, rather the only thing he has promised is to drain the swamp and bring retribution. He is the jawbone of the ass that Jesus will use to kill heaps and heaps of Philistines.

We already know all about all that stuff. They've already been exposed and cast down. We were already right all along about them. Now we must transcend all that and get to the bigger picture. It's the democrats' big problem that they never really figured out to transcend their self-defeating ideology and spent all their time trying to tear down their own house and hate their own people. That's why they got rejected and many of them still can't even figure it out. We're not going to be like them because not only is it a self-defeating and cursed path, but that will not fix the greater issues. Hunter can take his pardon and if he is smart he will keep his head low, and if he is not so smart he'll merely err again and get hit twice as hard and daddy won't be there to save him from his folley. The greater issue has always been encapsulated in the statement to Make America Great Again, and this is where the democrats failed to understand this and mocked it to their own hurt and condemnation. This will be done by fixing the top three issues of the election; fixing the economy, to secure the border and deport the alien invaders, and to make America strong again on the world stage and put all the creeping foreign nations led by all manners of pagans, sorcerors, cults and despots to fear.

You want to use Trump as a sword, but Trump will be our plowshare, and our revenge will be success. Let all the enemies rage and identify themselves when they see us being blessed and they remain cursed by reason that they chose to simply stay cursed for their unfounded spite of us instead of take the outstretched hand and succeeed with us too.