Aren't vaccines supposed to stimulate antibody production?
Covid "Vaccine" WIPES OUT ANTIBODIES!
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Meh. I'm an anti-vaxxer, so am not convinced that any vaccine ever worked. They just worked marginally poorly, so no one could ever really pinpoint they were bad. The good thing about the covid-vaxxes were that they are so bad, everyone could see it. Even those that refused to see it had to invent a new disease to explain all the vaxx deaths - "died suddenly", "unknown causes", "Sudden Adult Death Syndrome" (similar to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, anyone? Also caused by vaccines, in my opinion).
Family members have been there and done that. That's what killed Grandpa and Grandma.
You are talking about the "boosters"?
I think there was just one country according to Alex Stein that had one more.
Germany?
Each shot claims more and more lives.
Do you think Fauci's Ouchie #4 has anything to do with his resignation?
Just for the record, it was the influenza shot that tortured my grandparents, then sent them to an early grave. They didn't want it, but one of their pushy daughters wouldn't take NO! for an answer.
There should be no liability protection for vaccine manufacturers, the same as for everything else. Vaccines might last a year or two after such a decision, if that.
But Paul circumcised Timothy, and told him to drink a little wine. And I believe Luke was a doctor. The Old Testament priests were the ones to diagnose leprosy or other diseases. However, (I think) I agree with your sentiment. There is a place for doctors (like engineers, scientists, teachers, cleaners and even government members), but the place for miracles and faith is God.How does God see this?
We must look through the world through His lens, just as did Christ, who modeled.
Jesus never sent anyone to the Dr. Jesus told us to do as He did and gave us the anointing to so.
We are never to beg God for anything, the indwelling Christ asks of us to command in Jesus name, and when in union with His will, that He will do.
It also seems He is more concerned with the inside that the outside, some seem to need to be healed on the inside before you see the outside.
One of the last ones I saw was like that.
It also seems He is more concerned with the inside that the outside, some seem to need to be healed on the inside before you see the outside.
One of the last ones I saw was like that.
Because we are so double minded this way, in His mercy He has allowed it. Like He allowed divorce in Moses time, from the beginning that was not His plan.
I agree with that but don't think MDs should be given the monopoly on health care. They don't even study much about health in school. They are lucky to have introductory nutrition or fitness training. I'm not against Dr Luke or other good physicians who follow God's plan. One Dr told me in a class he taught that hospitals don't usually go by how effective a treatment is, but by the profits that it produces. They will not apply a cheaper, more effective plan.
The adversary twists everything he touches, he only comes to steal, kill and destroy.
Whether it be health, the medicine allowed in His kindness or anything in His Created order. There are many in medicine who are wonderful and caring, the want of money is the root of all kinds of evil, even here, twisting what God allowed for good.
Whether it be health, the medicine allowed in His kindness or anything in His Created order. There are many in medicine who are wonderful and caring, the want of money is the root of all kinds of evil, even here, twisting what God allowed for good.
and even greater works are occurring as He continues to increase the Spirit He pours out.
Covid Vaccine Destroys Natural Immunity, NEJM Study Shows
by Daily Sceptic
September 12th
https://www.infowars.com/posts/covid-vaccine-destroys-natural-immunity-nejm-study-shows/
"A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) shows not only that the effectiveness of the Pfizer Covid vaccine becomes negative (meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated) within five months but that the vaccine destroys any protection a person has from natural immunity.
The study is a large observational study that looks at 887,193 children aged 5 to 11 years in North Carolina, of whom 273,157 (30.8%) received at least one dose of Pfizer vaccine between November 1st 2021 and June 3rd 2022. The study includes 193,346 SARS-CoV-2 infections reported between March 11th 2020 and June 3rd 2022.
The researchers used a form of statistical modelling with adjustments for confounding factors (such as underlying conditions) to calculate estimates of vaccine effectiveness over time and against the different Covid variants.
The findings are depicted in the charts below. In chart A, notice that the green and blue lines, representing children vaccinated in November and December respectively, go through zero into negative territory at a sharp gradient within five months of the first injection. It’s unclear why the green line is not continued past April, as the researchers presumably had the data, but from what is shown it looks very much like the vaccine effectiveness will continue declining deep into negative territory.
In chart B, we see both the red and blue lines – which represent children who are vaccinated and have been previously infected and not previously infected respectively – again going through zero at a steep gradient within five months of vaccination. The fact that the vaccinated who have natural immunity from previous infection also see negative effectiveness is a surprise as one would not expect those with natural immunity to be more susceptible to infection than those without it.
Charts C and D suggest that it is the vaccine that is causing this worrying erasure of natural immunity. Chart D shows the effectiveness of natural immunity from previous infection among the vaccinated. Notice that the blue line, which is protection against the Delta variant among the vaccinated-and-previously-infected, hits zero at a steep gradient within seven months. Now look at the blue line in chart C, which is protection against Delta in the previously infected and unvaccinated. It, too, is waning, but much more slowly, and after eight months it is still very much in positive territory at over 50%. The same can be said for natural immunity against earlier variants (green line), which wanes slowly and remains positive after 16 months. Why is natural immunity remaining protective for the unvaccinated, whereas in the vaccinated their ‘protection’ goes negative even if they have natural immunity?
This is very disturbing because it suggests not only that the vaccines give negative ‘protection’ after a few months but also that they destroy the protection that should have been provided by natural immunity. The unvaccinated keep their protection from previous infection but the vaccinated end up with negative efficacy even if they’ve been previously infected. This means the vaccines appear to demolish a person’s natural immunity and leave him or her more vulnerable to infection than he or she was before.
The new findings add to growing concerns among scientists about the effect of the Covid vaccines on the immune system. A recent study in mice found that mRNA vaccines like Pfizer’s inhibit the immune system response to other pathogens. In that study (which is not yet peer-reviewed), the culprit appeared to be the lipid nano-particles (LNPs) which carry the mRNA in the vaccine: “We found that pre-exposure to mRNA-LNPs or LNP alone led to long-term inhibition of the adaptive immune responses.”
Another pre-print study found that the Pfizer vaccine “induces complex functional reprogramming of innate immune responses” including “inhibition of innate immune responses”.
Oddly, the authors of the new study fail to draw attention to their alarming findings. Instead they conclude that the vaccine was “found to confer considerable immunity against Omicron infection” – even though...."
by Daily Sceptic
September 12th
https://www.infowars.com/posts/covid-vaccine-destroys-natural-immunity-nejm-study-shows/
"A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) shows not only that the effectiveness of the Pfizer Covid vaccine becomes negative (meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated) within five months but that the vaccine destroys any protection a person has from natural immunity.
The study is a large observational study that looks at 887,193 children aged 5 to 11 years in North Carolina, of whom 273,157 (30.8%) received at least one dose of Pfizer vaccine between November 1st 2021 and June 3rd 2022. The study includes 193,346 SARS-CoV-2 infections reported between March 11th 2020 and June 3rd 2022.
The researchers used a form of statistical modelling with adjustments for confounding factors (such as underlying conditions) to calculate estimates of vaccine effectiveness over time and against the different Covid variants.
The findings are depicted in the charts below. In chart A, notice that the green and blue lines, representing children vaccinated in November and December respectively, go through zero into negative territory at a sharp gradient within five months of the first injection. It’s unclear why the green line is not continued past April, as the researchers presumably had the data, but from what is shown it looks very much like the vaccine effectiveness will continue declining deep into negative territory.
In chart B, we see both the red and blue lines – which represent children who are vaccinated and have been previously infected and not previously infected respectively – again going through zero at a steep gradient within five months of vaccination. The fact that the vaccinated who have natural immunity from previous infection also see negative effectiveness is a surprise as one would not expect those with natural immunity to be more susceptible to infection than those without it.
Charts C and D suggest that it is the vaccine that is causing this worrying erasure of natural immunity. Chart D shows the effectiveness of natural immunity from previous infection among the vaccinated. Notice that the blue line, which is protection against the Delta variant among the vaccinated-and-previously-infected, hits zero at a steep gradient within seven months. Now look at the blue line in chart C, which is protection against Delta in the previously infected and unvaccinated. It, too, is waning, but much more slowly, and after eight months it is still very much in positive territory at over 50%. The same can be said for natural immunity against earlier variants (green line), which wanes slowly and remains positive after 16 months. Why is natural immunity remaining protective for the unvaccinated, whereas in the vaccinated their ‘protection’ goes negative even if they have natural immunity?
This is very disturbing because it suggests not only that the vaccines give negative ‘protection’ after a few months but also that they destroy the protection that should have been provided by natural immunity. The unvaccinated keep their protection from previous infection but the vaccinated end up with negative efficacy even if they’ve been previously infected. This means the vaccines appear to demolish a person’s natural immunity and leave him or her more vulnerable to infection than he or she was before.
The new findings add to growing concerns among scientists about the effect of the Covid vaccines on the immune system. A recent study in mice found that mRNA vaccines like Pfizer’s inhibit the immune system response to other pathogens. In that study (which is not yet peer-reviewed), the culprit appeared to be the lipid nano-particles (LNPs) which carry the mRNA in the vaccine: “We found that pre-exposure to mRNA-LNPs or LNP alone led to long-term inhibition of the adaptive immune responses.”
Another pre-print study found that the Pfizer vaccine “induces complex functional reprogramming of innate immune responses” including “inhibition of innate immune responses”.
Oddly, the authors of the new study fail to draw attention to their alarming findings. Instead they conclude that the vaccine was “found to confer considerable immunity against Omicron infection” – even though...."
I'm ready for my third Moderna COVID-19 booster, scheduled later this month. I'm getting my annual flu shot tomorrow. I have been vaccinated against many diseases and plan on remaining alive and well for the years that I have remaining. Scare tactics don't work on me. They never haver and never will. I trust modern medicine.
COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters for Young Adults: A Risk-Benefit Assessment and Five Ethical Arguments against Mandates at Universities
Link direct to full study:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070
ABSTRACT
Students at North American universities risk disenrollment due to third dose COVID-19 vaccine mandates. We present a risk-benefit assessment of boosters in this age group and provide five ethical arguments against mandates. We estimate that 22,000 - 30,000 previously uninfected adults aged 18-29 must be boosted with an mRNA vaccine to prevent one COVID-19 hospitalisation. Using CDC and sponsor-reported adverse event data, we find that booster mandates may cause a net expected harm: per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males, and 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade ≥3 reactogenicity which interferes with daily activities. Given the high prevalence of post-infection immunity, this risk-benefit profile is even less favourable. University booster mandates are unethical because: 1) no formal risk-benefit assessment exists for this age group; 2) vaccine mandates may result in a net expected harm to individual young people; 3) mandates are not proportionate: expected harms are not outweighed by public health benefits given the modest and transient effectiveness of vaccines against transmission; 4) US mandates violate the reciprocity principle because rare serious vaccine-related harms will not be reliably compensated due to gaps in current vaccine injury schemes; and 5) mandates create wider social harms. We consider counter-arguments such as a desire for socialisation and safety and show that such arguments lack scientific and/or ethical support. Finally, we discuss the relevance of our analysis for current 2-dose CCOVIDovid-19 vaccine mandates in North America.
Link direct to full study:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070
ABSTRACT
Students at North American universities risk disenrollment due to third dose COVID-19 vaccine mandates. We present a risk-benefit assessment of boosters in this age group and provide five ethical arguments against mandates. We estimate that 22,000 - 30,000 previously uninfected adults aged 18-29 must be boosted with an mRNA vaccine to prevent one COVID-19 hospitalisation. Using CDC and sponsor-reported adverse event data, we find that booster mandates may cause a net expected harm: per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males, and 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade ≥3 reactogenicity which interferes with daily activities. Given the high prevalence of post-infection immunity, this risk-benefit profile is even less favourable. University booster mandates are unethical because: 1) no formal risk-benefit assessment exists for this age group; 2) vaccine mandates may result in a net expected harm to individual young people; 3) mandates are not proportionate: expected harms are not outweighed by public health benefits given the modest and transient effectiveness of vaccines against transmission; 4) US mandates violate the reciprocity principle because rare serious vaccine-related harms will not be reliably compensated due to gaps in current vaccine injury schemes; and 5) mandates create wider social harms. We consider counter-arguments such as a desire for socialisation and safety and show that such arguments lack scientific and/or ethical support. Finally, we discuss the relevance of our analysis for current 2-dose CCOVIDovid-19 vaccine mandates in North America.
Well I had the vaccine and got covid. It was like a mild flu for me. I also had the flu a couple months before. My son brings everything home from school. 
I got over both very quickly. So I think my immune system was working correctly. I was only down for a day. I worked at home and everything around it. Took a week to go completely away. Only took daytime cold &flu. With the flu no medicine helped. For covid cold and flu meds helped a lot for me.
My kids had it (4 and 1). They never had the vaccine. They continued with their day for covid. Never even slowed them down.
My mother (60s) was around when my son had covid and he was literally coughing on her. Never got it. She was 4th boostered. But I made her leave as soon as we found out though.
I personally don't think the vaccine works so what's the point? I don't plan on getting it again. I do know an older person who died from it, but he was on oxygen too and had a lung condition. Unfortunately even the flu could have done that. I have no fear of covid after having it. I wash my hands and take same precautions as flu (which was worse for me). Covid to me felt man made though. I felt like spiders were on my legs at one point. I almost felt high when having it. Since i didn't take anything at the time it was just the covid itself. Flu never did that. But the flu would not go away no matter what medicine I took.
I got over both very quickly. So I think my immune system was working correctly. I was only down for a day. I worked at home and everything around it. Took a week to go completely away. Only took daytime cold &flu. With the flu no medicine helped. For covid cold and flu meds helped a lot for me.
My kids had it (4 and 1). They never had the vaccine. They continued with their day for covid. Never even slowed them down.
My mother (60s) was around when my son had covid and he was literally coughing on her. Never got it. She was 4th boostered. But I made her leave as soon as we found out though.
I personally don't think the vaccine works so what's the point? I don't plan on getting it again. I do know an older person who died from it, but he was on oxygen too and had a lung condition. Unfortunately even the flu could have done that. I have no fear of covid after having it. I wash my hands and take same precautions as flu (which was worse for me). Covid to me felt man made though. I felt like spiders were on my legs at one point. I almost felt high when having it. Since i didn't take anything at the time it was just the covid itself. Flu never did that. But the flu would not go away no matter what medicine I took.
Good to hear your experience with your children.Well I had the vaccine and got covid. It was like a mild flu for me. I also had the flu a couple months before. My son brings everything home from school.
I got over both very quickly. So I think my immune system was working correctly. I was only down for a day. I worked at home and everything around it. Took a week to go completely away. Only took daytime cold &flu. With the flu no medicine helped. For covid cold and flu meds helped a lot for me.
My kids had it (4 and 1). They never had the vaccine. They continued with their day for covid. Never even slowed them down.
My mother (60s) was around when my son had covid and he was literally coughing on her. Never got it. She was 4th boostered. But I made her leave as soon as we found out though.
I personally don't think the vaccine works so what's the point? I don't plan on getting it again. I do know an older person who died from it, but he was on oxygen too and had a lung condition. Unfortunately even the flu could have done that. I have no fear of covid after having it. I wash my hands and take same precautions as flu (which was worse for me). Covid to me felt man made though. I felt like spiders were on my legs at one point. I almost felt high when having it. Since i didn't take anything at the time it was just the covid itself. Flu never did that. But the flu would not go away no matter what medicine I took.
You can't beat acquired immunity from getting sick and the God given immune system knocking it out. You will want to read the study abstract that I just posted earlier this evening, so you are able to help other parents with the fear tactics that modern medi$in uses to compel them to inject their own with harmful substances. Perhaps you'll save a life.
Medical Genocide
Video interview with 2 representing hospital murder victims.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/medical-genocide-alert-lawyers-confirm-anti-vaxxers-targeted-for-death-by-remdesivir-poison/
Anyone considering treatment should watch this.
Video interview with 2 representing hospital murder victims.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/medical-genocide-alert-lawyers-confirm-anti-vaxxers-targeted-for-death-by-remdesivir-poison/
Anyone considering treatment should watch this.