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homwardbound

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1 Thessalonians 3:10-13

Living Bible

10 For night and day we pray on and on for you, asking God to let us see you again, to fill up any little cracks there may yet be in your faith.
11 May God our Father himself and our Lord Jesus send us back to you again.12 And may the Lord make your love to grow and overflow to each other and to everyone else, just as our love does toward you. 13 This will result in your hearts being made strong, sinless, and holy by God our Father so that you may stand before him guiltless on that day when our Lord Jesus Christ returns with all those who belong to him.[a]

Cracks, people believe and do after belief by works to have to do to be in and become sinless, yet, are we doing that by being under Works of self to do Law?


Romans 7:10

Living Bible

10 So as far as I was concerned, the good law which was supposed to show me the way of life resulted instead in my being given the death penalty.

Are you under Law, trying to not sin, and sinning still, wanting not to?
Do we, or are we going to let go of being under Law, where we see we can't do it by being under Law, having to do it? Or do you think you got it, as Saul thought before becoming Paul

Living Bible

7 Don’t you understand yet, dear Jewish brothers[a] in Christ, that when a person dies the law no longer holds him in its power?
2 Let me illustrate: when a woman marries, the law binds her to her husband as long as he is alive. But if he dies, she is no longer bound to him; the laws of marriage no longer apply to her. 3 Then she can marry someone else if she wants to. That would be wrong while he was alive, but it is perfectly all right after he dies.
4 Your “husband,” your master, used to be the Jewish law; but you “died,” as it were, with Christ on the cross; and since you are “dead,” you are no longer “married to the law,” and it has no more control over you. Then you came back to life again when Christ did and are a new person. And now you are “married,” so to speak, to the one who rose from the dead, so that you can produce good fruit, that is, good deeds for God.


Romans 7:8-9

Living Bible

8 But sin used this law against evil desires by reminding me that such desires are wrong, and arousing all kinds of forbidden desires within me! Only if there were no laws to break would there be no sinning.
9 That is why I felt fine so long as I did not understand what the law really demanded. But when I learned the truth, I realized that I had broken the law and was a sinner, doomed to die.


Romans 7:11-15

Living Bible

11 Sin fooled me by taking the good laws of God and using them to make me guilty of death. 12 But still, you see, the law itself was wholly right and good.
13 But how can that be? Didn’t the law cause my doom? How then can it be good? No, it was sin, devilish stuff that it is, that used what was good to bring about my condemnation. So you can see how cunning and deadly and damnable it is. For it uses God’s good laws for its own evil purposes.
14 The law is good, then, and the trouble is not there but with me because I am sold into slavery with Sin as my owner.
15 I don’t understand myself at all, for I really want to do what is right, but I can’t. I do what I don’t want to—what I hate.

Is the above you too, or are you in pride as in Luke 18:9-14, do you view you as a better person than others?

Luke 23:34
“Father, forgive these people,” Jesus said, “for they don’t know what they are doing.” And the soldiers gambled for his clothing, throwing dice for each piece.
Today is risen and desires to give you new life in you, therefore turn to Father in belief too, thank you
 

Bruce_Leiter

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1 Thessalonians 3:10-13

Living Bible

10 For night and day we pray on and on for you, asking God to let us see you again, to fill up any little cracks there may yet be in your faith.
11 May God our Father himself and our Lord Jesus send us back to you again.12 And may the Lord make your love to grow and overflow to each other and to everyone else, just as our love does toward you. 13 This will result in your hearts being made strong, sinless, and holy by God our Father so that you may stand before him guiltless on that day when our Lord Jesus Christ returns with all those who belong to him.[a]

Cracks, people believe and do after belief by works to have to do to be in and become sinless, yet, are we doing that by being under Works of self to do Law?


Romans 7:10

Living Bible

10 So as far as I was concerned, the good law which was supposed to show me the way of life resulted instead in my being given the death penalty.

Are you under Law, trying to not sin, and sinning still, wanting not to?
Do we, or are we going to let go of being under Law, where we see we can't do it by being under Law, having to do it? Or do you think you got it, as Saul thought before becoming Paul

Living Bible

7 Don’t you understand yet, dear Jewish brothers[a] in Christ, that when a person dies the law no longer holds him in its power?
2 Let me illustrate: when a woman marries, the law binds her to her husband as long as he is alive. But if he dies, she is no longer bound to him; the laws of marriage no longer apply to her. 3 Then she can marry someone else if she wants to. That would be wrong while he was alive, but it is perfectly all right after he dies.
4 Your “husband,” your master, used to be the Jewish law; but you “died,” as it were, with Christ on the cross; and since you are “dead,” you are no longer “married to the law,” and it has no more control over you. Then you came back to life again when Christ did and are a new person. And now you are “married,” so to speak, to the one who rose from the dead, so that you can produce good fruit, that is, good deeds for God.


Romans 7:8-9

Living Bible

8 But sin used this law against evil desires by reminding me that such desires are wrong, and arousing all kinds of forbidden desires within me! Only if there were no laws to break would there be no sinning.
9 That is why I felt fine so long as I did not understand what the law really demanded. But when I learned the truth, I realized that I had broken the law and was a sinner, doomed to die.


Romans 7:11-15

Living Bible

11 Sin fooled me by taking the good laws of God and using them to make me guilty of death. 12 But still, you see, the law itself was wholly right and good.
13 But how can that be? Didn’t the law cause my doom? How then can it be good? No, it was sin, devilish stuff that it is, that used what was good to bring about my condemnation. So you can see how cunning and deadly and damnable it is. For it uses God’s good laws for its own evil purposes.
14 The law is good, then, and the trouble is not there but with me because I am sold into slavery with Sin as my owner.
15 I don’t understand myself at all, for I really want to do what is right, but I can’t. I do what I don’t want to—what I hate.

Is the above you too, or are you in pride as in Luke 18:9-14, do you view you as a better person than others?

Luke 23:34
“Father, forgive these people,” Jesus said, “for they don’t know what they are doing.” And the soldiers gambled for his clothing, throwing dice for each piece.
Today is risen and desires to give you new life in you, therefore turn to Father in belief too, thank you
First, the Living Bible is a paraphrase, not a translation, of the Bible.

Second, the paraphraser's use of the word "sinless" is not correct. Translations of that verse use the word "blameless," a much-better version of the word, which refers to the blamelessness of Noah and Job as similar to the OT's animal sacrifices that were required to have no blemishes on them.

Third, in other words, God guides Christians to live outwardly-unblemished lives while having to fight inner, sinful qualities like pride, impatience, and anger.

Fourth, I suggest that you compare the Living Bible with translations such as the English Standard Version (ESV) and the older New International Version (the newest NIV is more like a paraphrase with the addition of paraphrases that agree with our culture but not with the original Greek and Hebrew).