Crossing the Red Sea
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well the description 'walls of water' could mean a hundred things. It simply means that there was water on both sides. The gap had to be a large one in order for the people to cross. Possibly a mile or more wide. The account was not intended to describe how God did it. The Israelites experienced the wind, and saw a huge pathway open. They did not analyse it. Nor did they know what happened upstream and downstream. Nor do we.
I am not saying that God did not work a miracle. I am simply suggesting that it is unwise to exaggerate it. God didn't.
Remember that God did not need to use a wind. Why did He?
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prove which? that 3M people need more time to cross in a narrow space than 18k? I'm not sure if I'm following you...
Hmm, so even God is "limited" as to what He can do..........good to know that one........and if it can be explained by "natural means" how is it exactly that no one has?
You guys are a real hoot!
That there were only 18,000 people involved in this crossing as opposed to a much larger number.
I love how everyone has kept strictly to the Topic of the OP...........hmm, can this be explained by physics?
I recall that true story my old pastor told us many years ago. There was this boy grown up in a "Bible believing" family, then as he got older he got critical to what he was taught in home and church and got off to education and got better and better grades opening up for a promising career. Once he came home to his old mother and asked her: "Ma, do you really believe that story of Jonah being inside the big fish/whale for three days and nights?". His mother replied, "yes son, and had it read in the Bible that the big fish was in Jonah's stomach for three days and nights I would have believed it too".
The people never had any intention, whatsoever, of crossing the sea anywhere. Why would they aim for a particular section that might have been a little shallower than another part? They just followed the cloud or pillar of fire, and it would be in God's nature to lead them to the most (seemingly) impassable part of the sea so that they would feel hopeless, powerless, and completely trapped...... not some place where they might think, "Hum, that doesn't seem all that deep... let's give it a shot."
Hmm, so even God is "limited" as to what He can do..........good to know that one........and if it can be explained by "natural means" how is it exactly that no one has?
You guys are a real hoot!
No He is not limited, but He chooses to act in His own ways. Man's ability to explain things is very limited.
It was God Who said He did it by a wind, not me
Owls are very wise. And they hoot. Maybe the owls have got it?
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How high do you think the walls of water would have to be for the depth to be sufficient to drown the entire Egyptian army and their horses when the two walls came together?
LOL. Yea, these guys have ruined a perfectly good thread arguing about things that have nothing to do with the OP.
Actually a foot would do if a restricted Red sea burst through and flooded the area.
Hmm, so even God is "limited" as to what He can do..........good to know that one........and if it can be explained by "natural means" how is it exactly that no one has?
You guys are a real hoot!
Hoot Hoot! lol... God Himself is not limited, man 'LIMITS' Him thru their carnal understanding, these can be the Carnal unsaved or those Young christians who are 'carnal' , having not moved onto the 'meat' of the Word.
trying to remember how many Licks It took the wise ol owl to complete the Tootsie Pop? was it 3? lolz...
ANOTHER good topic with discussion.. A supernatural God does Supernatural Acts... indeed!
I'm so pleased that you know all God's thoughts. Does He get your permission before He does things? My experience is that to some extent God 'covers up' His miracles by making them seem natural.
If God did not want us to see a physical solution why did He use a wind?
By the way God did not destroy the whole Egyptian army, just the choice chariots and horsemen
That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Look guys. I established the parameters of the discussion in the OP. Consider the circumstances of this event. There are most probably in the neighborhood of 3,000,000 people and the sea is at this point about 1000' in depth.
The numbers are not up for debate. Either address the physics of this event according to the parameters I have laid down or please do not engage in this discussion.
No He is not limited, but He chooses to act in His own ways. Man's ability to explain things is very limited.
It was God Who said He did it by a wind, not me
Owls are very wise. And they hoot. Maybe the owls have got it?
So, it was a NATURAL wind that parted the Red Sea? Yeah, I've seen those kinds of winds many times........shoot, once I was fishing and my most favorite Bass Lure got caught on a stump on the bottom of the river...........I was heart broken, but just then a wind came up, parted the waters and I walked out to that stump and got my Lure back.......I bet a whole bunch of folks have seen such a wind as parted the Red Sea, I mean, after all, it was a NATURAL wind that did the trick.
And you did say "WHEN HE CAN," which in and of itself places a limitation on what God can do. For if He chose to perform all miracles by natural means He could............
The Creator is not limited by His Creations..............God is not subject to physics...........if a miracle was performed by natural means, then it is not a miracle, for it can be performed by natural means and not supernatural means...........if man can do it, it is not a miracle............Miracles are of God not physics
Maybe by Declaring and Using an East Wind, he Displayed His Supernatural Power, the natural man, looking upon this with his natural mind/understanding. would say THAT WONT WORK.. so he seeks to find a place on or in the Red Sea where God COULD OF done this using the Natural Law of Physics, but it wasnt Natural , But Supernatural... I truly believe God CAN and at times uses the Law of Physics to get done what He needs done.. He Stands outside the Natural Law of Physics, Yet He CREATED THEM, AND He Holds them Up by the Word of His Power.. that would be Christ, God manifest in the flesh... indeed!
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Yeah, He always has been the Author of confusion.............sigh......
Sorry OldHermit, these guys just have to be answered............oh well, it's just another day on BDF........
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well I just showed a miracle where natural laws were not used. and in fact it went against the natural laws.
also. there would not be high enough walls in your senerio, let alone enough water to overwhelm and kill all the wgyptian army.