David Icke: ISIS is set up to create WWIII

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Jackson123

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You are talking to a Medievalist, who believes that a constitutional monarchy ruled by nobility and representatives of the people is the best form of government in the realm of man, about communism beginning with Jesuits. I do not condone communism, because it is theological antithesis of what I believe in. Give to the poor, yes. Bring down the rich to do so, no. Communism goes too far. The RCC rejects communism as an evil. Next you will be telling me that the Free Masons are somehow part of the RCC, even though to be a member is to be excommunicate.
bible teach to help the poor.

But not by force. Is up to people to help the poor or not.

Paraguay reduction and communism force people by making the law no body have a private home, and from the other side call it slavery. Big government and not must left room for freedom.
 
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I never get my information from people described as "a human singularity of insanity" that spends his life falsely asserting the world is secretly controlled by evil shape-shifting lizard-people from the 4th dimension.
 

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I am going to remind people about what prof Niels Harrit said on video # 37.

1, Never happen in the history steel building collapse by fire. He study 600 case.
2. Never happen in the history steel building turn to dusk by fire.
they take a dust sample and put a magnet, than you can see if there is iron. Simple procedure. Iron turn to micro dust is prove the use of nano thermite.
3. the free fall collapse is prove of demolition

I put 3 not to make easier to remember.
 

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One more time

There are 3 building in the same location all free fall collapse by fire Is this accident?

Never happen before, now happen in the same time and same location????
 

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simple procedure to prove that part of the debris form the twin tower is iron dusk.

take a sample of the dusk, put magnet, Magnet pull Iron. If the dust stick to the magnet mean iron dusk.

How in the world jet fuel flame, not only melt the steel structure, but turn part of the steel structure into the dusk?

Show me the literature publish before 911 that state jet fuel flame turn steel to dusk.
 
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simple procedure to prove that part of the debris form the twin tower is iron dusk.

take a sample of the dusk, put magnet, Magnet pull Iron. If the dust stick to the magnet mean iron dusk.

How in the world jet fuel flame, not only melt the steel structure, but turn part of the steel structure into the dusk?

Show me the literature publish before 911 that state jet fuel flame turn steel to dusk.
You do know that steel is not a natural metal? Its made from iron.
 

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You do know that steel is not a natural metal? Its made from iron.

Yes I perfectly aware steel is from Iron. the question is if you burn Iron use Jet fuel, it will not turn to dust.

Nano thermit does, commercial thermit does.

It prove that the building collapse not because Jet fuel.

They put nano thermit in to every segment and every level of the building.
I watch lecture in youtube 2 or 3 years ago, an demolition expert from Holland said, eat least need 6 months to prepare for this job.

Mean, the collapse was not cause by jet.

It plan for some time before, and not by Bin Ladin.

Bin Ladin doesn't have nano thermit.

Only CIA and Mossad does.

From you response, I believe you don't understand the problem.
 
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Yes I perfectly aware steel is from Iron. the question is if you burn Iron use Jet fuel, it will not turn to dust.

Nano thermit does, commercial thermit does.

It prove that the building collapse not because Jet fuel.

They put nano thermit in to every segment and every level of the building.
I watch lecture in youtube 2 or 3 years ago, an demolition expert from Holland said, eat least need 6 months to prepare for this job.

Mean, the collapse was not cause by jet.

It plan for some time before, and not by Bin Ladin.

Bin Ladin doesn't have nano thermit.

Only CIA and Mossad does.

From you response, I believe you don't understand the problem.
I'll say it again. You aren't and weren't here. You trust experts from Holland who haven't examined the site. They haven't been to the site. They claim to know it all from videotape and second hand information.

Why do you care so much about a presidency that ended six years ago? Why not care more about the madman in Russia?
 

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I'll say it again. You aren't and weren't here. You trust experts from Holland who haven't examined the site. They haven't been to the site. They claim to know it all from videotape and second hand information.

Why do you care so much about a presidency that ended six years ago? Why not care more about the madman in Russia?
Brother Thomas.

are you expert in demolition building?

How long it take to prepare demolition 110 story building?

Why you don't believe the expert estimation to prepare demolition like that take about 6 month.

How long it take in you estimation.

Brother, do you believe Jet fuel able to turn Iron construction in to a dusk?

Show me the literature Iron construction turn into dust, micro dust use Jet Fuel flame.

Then I will believe you more then the expert.

Even second hand information, but this second hand information is trust worthy.

All he need to know is that this building is 100 plus story, and it is steel construction

You to not there but you believe from second hand information that fuel Jet cause that 100 plus steel construction collapse.

I am not because test it first, if that is logically acceptable.



Madman Russia is control by Globalist.

I am not worry about 6 years presidency, either. Both of them is just a puppet, they work for globalist.
 
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This is insane. Why must there always be a conspiracy around every corner? Next I'll be hearing about how the Ferguson riots were set off to stop the press from learning something about ISIS because Obama is a Muslim. (BTW I heard that today). Sometimes people are just evil, and bad things get worse. Its amazing how many people are willing to believe something extraordinary happened, and then when something extraordinary happens, like a terrorist attack on American soil, its impossible.
 

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This is insane. Why must there always be a conspiracy around every corner? Next I'll be hearing about how the Ferguson riots were set off to stop the press from learning something about ISIS because Obama is a Muslim. (BTW I heard that today). Sometimes people are just evil, and bad things get worse. Its amazing how many people are willing to believe something extraordinary happened, and then when something extraordinary happens, like a terrorist attack on American soil, its impossible.
Brother Thomas,
Let me repeat my question.

1. You really believe steel building turn into dusk by Jet fuel?

Prove it brother. If you able to prove Jet fuel flame burn the steel into dusk than I believe it is not conspiracy.
 

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I must say I like the passage from the Song of Solomon which you quote Thomist. I might snark (LOL) that the Song of S is not a book that promotes celebacy! But that passage (by application, not interpretation) brings to my mind the Rapture.

Come now, my love.
My lovely one, come.
For you, the winter has passed, The snows are over and gone,
The flowers appear in the land, The season of joyful songs has come.
The cooing of the Turtledove is heard in our land.
IMHO, the S of S was written to promote erotic pleasure between husband & wife, not primarily for spiritual application between Christ & the Church, but much of it is applicable to the Bride of Christ.

This is insane. Why must there always be a conspiracy around every corner? Next I'll be hearing about how the Ferguson riots were set off to stop the press from learning something about ISIS because Obama is a Muslim. (BTW I heard that today). Sometimes people are just evil, and bad things get worse. Its amazing how many people are willing to believe something extraordinary happened, and then when something extraordinary happens, like a terrorist attack on American soil, its impossible.
So what do you think of ISIS, Thomist? Could just be a flash in the pan, nothing for newspaper exegesis. The descendants of Ishmael seem to be good at fighting vs each other, preventing them from world conquest. But it seems inevitable that such a group will eventually get nuclear bombs. Already Pakistan is a nuclear power, and could be taken over by such as ISIS. Iran seems on the edge of becoming a nuclear power also.

Meanwhile it seems to me that our Obomber really wants to be free of war. He inherited two wars and couldn't easily get out of them. Now as he seems about out, low & behold it is discovered that we never settled the hash of Iraq & that the Messianic pretensions for saving non-democrats to democracy was wishful thinking. So it looks like the USA should have backed Bashar Al-Asad of Syria, promoting his bashing of these Islamists, better a secularish dictator than Islamists.

So what thinketh the Thomist?

BTW, are you making a pun on Tom Collins with your screen name?

 
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I must say I like the passage from the Song of Solomon which you quote Thomist. I might snark (LOL) that the Song of S is not a book that promotes celebacy! But that passage (by application, not interpretation) brings to my mind the Rapture.

IMHO, the S of S was written to promote erotic pleasure between husband & wife, not primarily for spiritual application between Christ & the Church, but much of it is applicable to the Bride of Christ.



So what do you think of ISIS, Thomist? Could just be a flash in the pan, nothing for newspaper exegesis. The descendants of Ishmael seem to be good at fighting vs each other, preventing them from world conquest. But it seems inevitable that such a group will eventually get nuclear bombs. Already Pakistan is a nuclear power, and could be taken over by such as ISIS. Iran seems on the edge of becoming a nuclear power also.

Meanwhile it seems to me that our Obomber really wants to be free of war. He inherited two wars and couldn't easily get out of them. Now as he seems about out, low & behold it is discovered that we never settled the hash of Iraq & that the Messianic pretensions for saving non-democrats to democracy was wishful thinking. So it looks like the USA should have backed Bashar Al-Asad of Syria, promoting his bashing of these Islamists, better a secularish dictator than Islamists.

So what thinketh the Thomist?

BTW, are you making a pun on Tom Collins with your screen name?
First, that passage has great meaning to me. I find it insulting your insinuations and joking tone. It was a verse that helped me through my depressions and still does.

Second, ISIS is something far worse than our media is saying. It is the return of Seljuk Islam, a form of Islam that believed in killing all infidels and ignoring the rules of war and government laid out by the Koran. Its rhetoric however is Fatimid Islam, a form of Islam that sought peace in the Middle East. Its most famous adherent was Salah al-Din, a man whose integrity was lauded by both friends and enemies.

Thirdly, Assad lost all rights to rule his people when he used chemical weapons. I still have nightmares of those youtube videos, and I also watch them on occasion to remind me of the fact that we are dealing with people, not ideologies.

Fourth, I have no idea who Tom Collins is. I am a Thomist.
 

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quote from Brother Thomist.

They knew what they were doing, and they were doing it in the name of Allah (Satan.) But Satan knows more than any of us that it only takes one. It only takes one person to damn the rest. It only takes one. Over the centuries and millenia, Satan has begun to gather his army of ones, each believing that they are right.

End quote.

Brother Thomist,

I agree with you in this, Allah is Satan.

After I re read, I come to the conclusion, that Your faith is not really Catholic.

Your believe Muslim worship Allah and you believe Allah is Satan.

this is what Catholic believe.

DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH
[SIZE=+1]LUMEN GENTIUM[/SIZE]
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS
POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 21, 1964

Chapter II/16

16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126) But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.

Let me be affirmed. Base on 126, Catholic and muslim share the same God.

Mean catholic believe Allah is God.

You believe Allah is Satan.

 
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Actually, we should already be in WWIII if the U.S. kept it's promises. Our ally treaty with Ukraine states that we should be attacking any foreign aggressors that attack Ukraine since Ukraine gave up its nukes.
 

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Actually, we should already be in WWIII if the U.S. kept it's promises. Our ally treaty with Ukraine states that we should be attacking any foreign aggressors that attack Ukraine since Ukraine gave up its nukes.

So the planing is fail. May be that is why the globalist try to find another way, create ISIS.
 

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First, that passage has great meaning to me. I find it insulting your insinuations and joking tone. It was a verse that helped me through my depressions and still does.

Second, ISIS is something far worse than our media is saying. It is the return of Seljuk Islam, a form of Islam that believed in killing all infidels and ignoring the rules of war and government laid out by the Koran. Its rhetoric however is Fatimid Islam, a form of Islam that sought peace in the Middle East. Its most famous adherent was Salah al-Din, a man whose integrity was lauded by both friends and enemies.

Thirdly, Assad lost all rights to rule his people when he used chemical weapons. I still have nightmares of those youtube videos, and I also watch them on occasion to remind me of the fact that we are dealing with people, not ideologies.

Fourth, I have no idea who Tom Collins is. I am a Thomist.
Tom Collins is an alcoholic beverage; I thought you might have a double-meaning joke in your screen name; but I guess you lack my sense of humor.

I regret any offense, Thomist, I was trying to be jovial and friendly.
Thanks for the education on ISIS. You must know much more about Islam than I.

BTW, I am working on my 4th time through the Quran, and I don't find it particularly nice towards infidels.

I speak not of rights, but what other choice is there but Assad?
 
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Tom Collins is an alcoholic beverage; I thought you might have a double-meaning joke in your screen name; but I guess you lack my sense of humor.

I regret any offense, Thomist, I was trying to be jovial and friendly.
Thanks for the education on ISIS. You must know much more about Islam than I.

BTW, I am working on my 4th time through the Quran, and I don't find it particularly nice towards infidels.

I speak not of rights, but what other choice is there but Assad?
The Quran specifically says that those "infidels" who pay the non-Muslim tax are to be protected and treated as guests and citizens of the Islamic nation they live in. All others are to be killed. So in that respect you are right, however, the Fatimid interpretation was that this meant any infidel not meant on the battlefield should be given three choices: convert, pay the tax, or die. Most Christians actually ended up paying the tax when that question was asked by both Salah al-Din and Mehmed II (he conquered Constantinople). In fact, history showed that Mehmed II and the Greek Orthodox Patriarch ate breakfast together after the Patriarch had said Mass and Mehmed II had done his morning prayers. My only point being that as violent as Islam is, even within there own texts it outlaws the whimsical slaughtering of "infidels".

Our choice is to back the Rebels that have allied both against Assad and ISIS or...call in a UN Peacekeeping Force that has the authorization to use lethal force, though I feel that would lead us closer to the rise of the Son of Perdition.
 
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So tell me then Thomist Colin, was Thom nice to heretics?
How does he rate on the torture scale?
Nice, no. He actually believed in their condemnation. However, he viewed Christians as Christians. Thomas Aquinas was sent to the Ecumenical Council of Lyons between the Greek Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church. Aquinas argued for the Pope to hold no administrative power over the Church, but retain his position as the moral leader of the Church (since Aquinas believed in Papal infallibility). Both the Greek Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic members of the Council vehemently disagreed with him. Its one of the reasons why St. Thomas Aquinas was not taught the century after his death. The same went for St. Bonaventura, who was murdered by his students when they found out he intended to introduce the very same suggestion at the Council.