David Icke: ISIS is set up to create WWIII

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Yes, part of it.

Do I believe Islam want take over the world? Yes I do. But I don't thing it able to compete again catholic. Catholic has more money and resources. And cahtolic know to infiltrate to Islam and used them to create chaos where muslim grass root unaware. Just bribe the leader.
the rest of the video really tells a lot.
 

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did you watch that video I posted?
Yes, part of it.

Do I believe Islam want take over the world? Yes I do. But I don't thing it able to compete again catholic. Catholic has more money and resources. And cahtolic know to infiltrate to Islam and used them to create chaos where muslim grass root unaware. Just bribe the leader.
 

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Seem to me, There are 2 possibilities.

1. Muslim are not smart enough openly express his agenda

2. Jesuit propaganda pitting america and muslim.



This is part of Jesuit Oath.

You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit,
 
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2. Jesuit propaganda pitting america and muslim.
The muslim faith doesn't need anyone to propagate against it. Their holy books do a wonderful job of that as it is. Their actions are perfectly inline with their script.

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."


Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.


Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').


Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"

Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.


Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”


Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.
 

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The muslim faith doesn't need anyone to propagate against it. Their holy books do a wonderful job of that as it is. Their actions are perfectly inline with their script.

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."


Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.


Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').


Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"

Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.


Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”


Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.
Yup. This what I remmber why:

1. according to Dr Alberto Muslim create by catholic, to take over Jerusalem for Vatican. and vatican make Quran to teach them to hate and attack Jew. Vatican didn't want to do it openly, he use Islam.

2. Before his rebellion, there isn't verse again christian.

3. when Islam took over Jerusalem, he rebel and did not give it to Vatican. I believe (I have to re read when my computer normal/ now my computer is so slow, infected ) it happen after Mohammad the dead of Mohammad. And Quran had not been written before the death of Mohammad. It was memorized, and canonized under Omar, Mohammad successor.

4. Muslim do not know the real history of they religion. His quran was design for a propaganda. They aren't aware that they are prepare to be jihad. they are deceived they think it is the will of God. and they will get a beautiful angel as a reword.
 

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Oh I want to tell about my experience in Indonesia.

for a long time, I don't see riot, attack again christian etc. In 1998 it happen simultaneously. In almost every part of Indonesia.

Is that cause by quran?

Quran always there for hundreds of years why not happen before?

What I heard is there is 26 million dollar fund from America to pay and bribe some of the muslim and army leader to do the job.

Riot involving thousands of people. not have been possible without organizer and money. They know the danger in participating a riot. But for the poor, money attract them to take a risk.
 
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just in my own mind, I don't think it would have been conducive for the vatican to create Islam. Islam could easily have grown out of the hands of catholicism. In fact it has. So back in the day before great technology the Roman Catholic church would have had a greater chance at world domination without creating a new and violent religion. This is actually the time of the protestant movement, they really didn't have anything to gain by creating the muslim belief.
 

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Let me continue my reasoning.

Yes I believe Muslim want to rule the world. but they not aware some body use them for his agenda.

this entity is always looking for scapegoat.

On of his scapegoat is Muslim.

for example Twin tower/911. They use Muslim as a scapegoat.

I don't believe Muslim behind 911. It is impossible.

Eric Jon Phelps said 911 is to create chaos, pitting Muslim and christian.

let me re quote part of Jesuit oath.




You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit,
 

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just in my own mind, I don't think it would have been conducive for the vatican to create Islam. Islam could easily have grown out of the hands of catholicism. In fact it has. So back in the day before great technology the Roman Catholic church would have had a greater chance at world domination without creating a new and violent religion. This is actually the time of the protestant movement, they really didn't have anything to gain by creating the muslim belief.
I am not quite understand what your mean.

Catholic create muslim 1400 years ago to take Jerusalem not recently. That is what Dr alberto said. and he said in the 60s where no body believe Vatican want Jerusalem.

now if you google vatican want jerusalem, you find million of article. this is the example
[h=1]he Vatican Wants Jerusalem[/h]Friday, 8 March 2013 6:11 PM
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For many years, now, the Vatican has been trying to lay its hands on Jerusalem. In December 2011, Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, head of the Vatican’s Council for Interreligious Dialogue, began reiterating demands for control of religious sites in and around Jerusalem, saying: “There will not be peace if the question of the holy sites is not adequately resolved. The part of Jerusalem within the walls – with the holy sites of the three religions – is humanity’s heritage. The sacred and unique character of the area must be safeguarded and it can only be done with a special, internationally-guaranteed statute”.
As recently as a week ago, officials of the Vatican met with representatives of the Palestine Liberation Organization. Documents released by the Vatican have begun referring to the "State of Palestine". These moves continue to show that the Vatican supports Arab sovereignty over Jerusalem, and the removal of Israeli control over the region.
The Vatican continues to vie for control over the sovereignty of some 21 sites, including:
• The Western Wall
• The Temple Mount
• The Garden of Gethsemane at the foot of the Mount of Olives
• The Tomb of King David on Mount Zion
• The Upper Room on Mount Zion, also known as the Cenacle Shrine or Coenaculum
The Vatican also wants Israel to relinquish the Western Wall and the Temple Mount, the Mount of Olives, Mount Zion and other holy sites. These are all sites which President Clinton recommended be administered by a “special regime”.
Why They Want It
The Vatican has desired Jerusalem as far back as era of the crusades. But why? It has been conjectured that the coming One World Religion is to be headquartered here. It has also been conjectured that the next (and final) pope will be the head of th

If you want a clue how vatican want dominate the world this is the example.



[h=3]The Vatican Calls for World Government - Forbes[/h]www.forbes.com/sites/.../the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/


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Oct 25, 2011 - ... from the Vatican: that we need to move to a system of world government: ... preparing us for the life after this one that's no bad thing of course, ..


 
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I did not watch the video that was posted, but I will say this, I am not a big fan of David Icke! He is a New Ager and has publicly trash talked the Christian Church, so I would take anything David Icke Says with a grain of salt.

If you pay attention at all to author, Joel Richardson, or to his contributions to WND.com and read some of the articles that he has written about ISIS and how the Anti-Christ will come from the Middle East, he and others like him would be a better source of info that David Icke. Plus David Icke and other like him are the part of the "controlled" information.

Just sayin! :D
 

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I did not watch the video that was posted, but I will say this, I am not a big fan of David Icke! He is a New Ager and has publicly trash talked the Christian Church, so I would take anything David Icke Says with a grain of salt.

If you pay attention at all to author, Joel Richardson, or to his contributions to WND.com and read some of the articles that he has written about ISIS and how the Anti-Christ will come from the Middle East, he and others like him would be a better source of info that David Icke. Plus David Icke and other like him are the part of the "controlled" information.

Just sayin! :D
yes Davis Icke work for the Devil. Like other reporter. Most of them work for globalist. When 911 happen, most of them try to herding people to believe it done by Muslim. Building 7 collapse because of debris from twin tower. Twin tower collapse due to Jet fuel etc.

There are work for the devil like David Icke.

I believe for non Christian consumption, we have to supply from non Christian reporter like David.

I know the bible is the best resource, but non Christian fed up with the Christian resource.

David not always lie. some of his information is reliable and in this case, his information is some what inline with the bible.

He believe globalist behind ISIS. Alex Jones believe CIA behind ISIS.

I think both of them is only give half truth. DR Alberto Rivera said Jesuit behind NWO. And that what I believe.



December 27, 2005
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Pope Benedict, in his first Christmas address, on Sunday urged humanity to unite against terrorism, poverty and environmental blight and called for a "New World Order" to correct economic imbalances.

The Pope made his comments to tens of thousands of pilgrims gathered under umbrellas in a rainy St Peter square for his "Urbi et Orbi" (to the city and the world) message and blessing.

In his address, telecast live from the central balcony of St. Peter's Basilica to tens of millions of people in nearly 40 countries, he also urged his listeners not to let technological achievements blind them to true human values.

He said humanity should look to the Christ child for encouragement in times of difficulty and fear.
"A united humanity will be able to confront the many troubling problems of the present time: from the menace of terrorism to the humiliating poverty in which millions of human beings live, from the proliferation of weapons to the pandemics and the environmental destruction which threatens the future of our planet," he said.

"Do not fear; put your trust in him! The life-giving power of his light is an incentive for building a new world order based on just ethical and economic relationships," he said, speaking in Italian.
The address by the leader of the world's some 1.1 billion Roman Catholics was different in style than those of his predecessor John Paul, who died last April.

John Paul wrote his Christmas addresses in free-style verse and resembled poetry, whereas Benedict's was in prose like a normal homily or speech.

Since his election, the Pope has repeatedly reminded Catholics not to give in to an "ethical relativism" where circumstances can be used to justify actions that should be considered wrong in all cases.

The Pope, wearing a gold cape and with a gold mitre, continued in that line on Sunday by beaming in on the dangers of technology and progress, implying that it should not be allowed to become tantamount to a God in its own right.
"Today we can dispose of vast material resources. But the men and women in our technological age risk becoming victims of their own intellectual and technical achievements, ending up in spiritual barrenness and emptiness of heart," he said.

"That is why it is so important for us to open our minds and hearts to the birth of Christ, this event of salvation which can give new hope to the life of each human being," he said.
In other parts of the address he appealed for respect for the rights of people suffering a humanitarian crisis in the Darfur region of Sudan.

He made another appeal for peace in the Holy Land and called for "actions inspired by fairness and wisdom" in Iraq and Lebanon. The Pope asked God to favor dialogue on the Korean peninsula so that "dangerous disputes" there and elsewhere in Asia can be solved peacefully. The Urbi et Orbi followed a solemn Christmas eve midnight mass attended by a congregation that packed St Peter's Basilica. In his homily at that mass he urged the world's Catholics to be beacons of peace in a troubled world and offered a special prayer for an end to strife in the Holy Land.

The next major event on the Pope's Christmas season calendar is a mass on the Feast of the Epiphany on January 6. Two days later he will baptize children. In early January, the Pope is due to publish his first encyclical, a major writing addressed to all Church members.

The encyclical, believed to be called "God is Love", deals with the individual's personal relationship with God.
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I agree with you, Jackson123.

David Icke and others have said truthful things. One thing that I want to point out is that the occult know the human mind very well! So well that they know what "hooks" to use!

They know very well that people will stray on their own and search for the truth, so they have a form of a controlled demolition, if you will, that is designed to attract as many of the "truth seekers" as possible. They attract you with the "truth hook" that is designed to give you a little bit of the truth to draw you in, and once they got you, they then pull you in another direction. The funny thing is, the other direction they often pull you in is often filled with other truths, all be it minor truths, but these truths, although fascinating, and at times, mind blowing, are not the tools or the lost x-files that one is looking for that will uncover the "actual/real truth", but are intended to keep you off track with other mind occupying things to keep you soooo busy and fascinated with mind blowing information that really isn't necessary when trying to learn the truth, but instead keeps you from learning the truth and is then over looked.

This is all done by design!
 

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I agree with you, Jackson123.

David Icke and others have said truthful things. One thing that I want to point out is that the occult know the human mind very well! So well that they know what "hooks" to use!

They know very well that people will stray on their own and search for the truth, so they have a form of a controlled demolition, if you will, that is designed to attract as many of the "truth seekers" as possible. They attract you with the "truth hook" that is designed to give you a little bit of the truth to draw you in, and once they got you, they then pull you in another direction. The funny thing is, the other direction they often pull you in is often filled with other truths, all be it minor truths, but these truths, although fascinating, and at times, mind blowing, are not the tools or the lost x-files that one is looking for that will uncover the "actual/real truth", but are intended to keep you off track with other mind occupying things to keep you soooo busy and fascinated with mind blowing information that really isn't necessary when trying to learn the truth, but instead keeps you from learning the truth and is then over looked.

This is all done by design!
Yup, I agree, that is finger print of Lucifer. they give half truth to Eve, make her believe. All he want is to make people believe and it is a trap.

That why I don't believe David or Alex Jones. all I do is to use they information to confirm What DR Alberto Rivera said.

There is a plan for One World Government.

The real player is Vatican, not CIA, not Globalist. Like union has so many layer, when we pile first layer, we think we found the real player, but is not, there is another layer.

Let identify the real player.

Catholic believe Pope is the representative Jesus on earth.

Jesus is King of king. so pope represent King of king on earth.


It consistent with what Vatican/ Pope promote New World Order.

To support One World Government, they try to make One world Religion. to ingratiate muslim. they make a new teaching they said Catholic share to the Muslim God. You know that muslim god is Allah don't you? So catholic god is Allah.
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16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126) But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God,
 
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The funny thing is, David Icke -- all be it a puppet -- and others like him, can be a better source of information than the world's media. When listening to people like, David Icke, one has to use filters when listening as you will be told partial truths mixed with false truths. You have to know how to listen and how to separate truth from fiction.
 

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The funny thing is, David Icke -- all be it a puppet -- and others like him, can be a better source of information than the world's media. When listening to people like, David Icke, one has to use filters when listening as you will be told partial truths mixed with false truths. You have to know how to listen and how to separate truth from fiction.

I totally agree.
For example, 911. After listen to some professor, I don't believe mainstream media. And it is easy to filter.

Main stream media, has smaller content of the truth, Compare with a man like David Icke, and Alex Jones.

Then most people will think David and Alex is right.

After staying in Arizona in the summer, you think 90 degree F is consider cool.

After listening total lie, half lie we accept as the truth. It is a trick. We should always pray and ask the Holy spirit to always give us a wisdom in a world full of lie.
 
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I totally agree.
For example, 911. After listen to some professor, I don't believe mainstream media. And it is easy to filter.

Main stream media, has smaller content of the truth, Compare with a man like David Icke, and Alex Jones.

Then most people will think David and Alex is right.

After staying in Arizona in the summer, you think 90 degree F is consider cool.

After listening total lie, half lie we accept as the truth. It is a trick. We should always pray and ask the Holy spirit to always give us a wisdom in a world full of lie.
Absolutely correct! Always pray to the Lord and ask for wisdom! If you do this on a regular basis, you will automatically (with the Lords help) recognize the junk that is be pushed.
 
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alex jones doesn't even believe half of what he says on his programs...he has made that obvious from his interaction from one of the sandy hook parents...where he had his staff privately tell the parent of one of the children that he believes that the sandy hook shooting was a real tragedy with real victims...while he continues to argue for the opposite on his show...

he is just trying to make money off of sensational claims...and you are falling for it...

christians are supposed to know better...-shame on you-
 

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alex jones doesn't even believe half of what he says on his programs...he has made that obvious from his interaction from one of the sandy hook parents...where he had his staff privately tell the parent of one of the children that he believes that the sandy hook shooting was a real tragedy with real victims...while he continues to argue for the opposite on his show...

he is just trying to make money off of sensational claims...and you are falling for it...

christians are supposed to know better...-shame on you-
I know he is a liar, but like you said he doesn't believe half of what he said in the program, but half of them a true.

Like Lucifer doesn't believe half of what he said, but to make people believe, he tell half true.