Okay, I can see you see a distinction there. If sin curses the law, would it not be appropriate to say the law has been cursed? Can you explain further what you mean?
Death curses the law
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Okay, I can see you see a distinction there. If sin curses the law, would it not be appropriate to say the law has been cursed? Can you explain further what you mean?
when certain members in this thread apologize for there abuse and when your not intent on arguing then maybe I will speak more.
I read again your 1-3 posts. The only statement I see that refers to my question is “And evil death entered in them and started to curse the law.” Can you explain what you mean by that? How does death in man curse the law? I am not trying to be argumentative. I don’t even know that I disagree with you until I understand.
well when your spiritual nature dies it still remains in you but its now poisoned by evil knowledge, and no longer able to shelter your God given human nature. which God created and saw that it was Good before he made it alive spiritualy.
So when your spiritual nature dies because it's been poisoned by evil knowledge, it still alive but no longer functions as spiritual life. it now functions as spiritual death, and constantly curses your good human nature, that still knows right from wrong.
Then we go to the word of Jesus.
Jesus said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body.
Which means all tho the spiritual nature of your human nature as died.
The spiritual nature is still in your body, as spirit doesn't die.
But it's not dead it's been poisoned by evil knowledge, and now your spiritual nature prefers death
The only thing evil knows is death.
Like you I think there was only the one commandment given to Adam and Eve. Don't eat from the tree.
I always thought the "Its not good for man to live alone" was a sign to Jesus Christ. If man has Christ they are not alone.
I know this to be true in my own life before I let Christ into my life I was so lonely. I mean I had my family and some great friends but I didn't have Christ. It was like I was always looking for something. Something very big was missing from my life and I was never really happy. Now I can be alone for days and I am so happy. I hope that makes sense.
Instead of looking at one man/woman disobedience to God it makes me look at my own. All that is left to say is "thank you Jesus Christ, without you there is no way for me"
Romans 5:12-21
12 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
13 Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break.
14 Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.
15 But there is a great difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gracious gift. For the sin of this one man, Adam, brought death to many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of forgiveness to many through this other man, Jesus Christ.
16 And the result of God’s gracious gift is very different from the result of that one man’s sin. For Adam’s sin led to condemnation, but God’s free gift leads to our being made right with God, even though we are guilty of many sins.
17 For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and his gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one man, Jesus Christ.
18 Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone.
19 Because one person disobeyed God, many became sinners. But because one other person obeyed God, many will be made righteous.
20 God’s law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God’s wonderful grace became more abundant.
21 So just as sin ruled over all people and brought them to death, now God’s wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
The reason why This law, man shall not live alone,.is not a law to some is.
Because many people like to strip people of God, especially Calvinists by the looks of It.
Anyway stroll on with the abuse
Because many people like to strip people of God, especially Calvinists by the looks of It.
Anyway stroll on with the abuse
Beautiful thoughts and expressions from the heart.
Thank you for sharing!
I do not agree fully with this, but certain salient elements.....I do agree with.
Pretty much. More or less.
I can agree there are two commands or perhaps three depending how you want to break it down. While I agree that man being alone would have made the second command rather impossible. The second command being be fruitful and multiply so yeah would not have happened if Adam was alone but don't find that not being alone was the actual command.
God also said subdue and take dominion over the earth. Which like I said some may break it down to a third. I reckon I would say it still falls under the whole command of be fruitful and multiply but would not really have a problem if someone saw it as a third.
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
I would say the second command is proving to be quite problematic these days as there is a decrease in live births in a great part of the earth as well as murdering in the womb those who could be a birth.
Of course the have dominion is big problem as well as the creation that we are to take charge of many now worship it and would destroy humanity in order that they can be in submission to rocks and dirt.
Well coming to an agreement is quite simple really.I do not agree fully with this, but certain salient elements.....I do agree with.
Pretty much. More or less.
When you've not heard something before, the best thing to do is to think about it on the bases you've never heard it before, instead of thinking well I can't agree because ive never heard of it before.
This is how people learn
Stroll on
And in their "Perfection", they tossed God under the bus. Sounds like NOTHING really changed at all.
what bus was that then ?? Would that be the yellow bus that carted you of in a straight jacket.
Okay, thanks for explaining. I think I agree with most of what you said there. I probably wouldn’t refer to that as “curse the law” but that’s just semantics and im not really in to debating such things. Thanks again
Their sin was an Act of Disobedience for disobeying what God commanded them to do/not do. So the bus they threw God under is the Disobedience bus.
well when you do a bit of maths you soon realise Adams sin didn't didn't make your spiritual nature become poisoned, the knowledge of evil did.Their sin was an Act of Disobedience for disobeying what God commanded them to do/not do. So the bus they threw God under is the Disobedience bus.
But if you where do some more maths. Theres many other scriptures that add up to this to.
But on a separate matter when you realise Adam did not sin Willfully, you may realise what arrogance means.
Civil disobedience, really that a new one on me, is that why your so civil about being ridiculous.Their sin was an Act of Disobedience for disobeying what God commanded them to do/not do. So the bus they threw God under is the Disobedience bus.
Or is it you like to politely tell people to shove off
Before the fall, Eve was only known as "Woman".
Only AFTER the fall does Adam RENAME here Eve...."the mother of all living". Why?
I know exactly why. More later.