Depression, anxiety and hell.
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Renewed day by day (2nd corinthians 4:16-18)...previous sins will fade in the rearview mirror (like scars) they are forgiven but walking in that is sometimes difficult.
For sure if you keep feeling disgustingly dirty, that's not the Lord. Romans 8:1 "there is no therefore no condemnation..."
Reach out if you need and be patient, internet timing on a forum is usually different from direct person-to-person. I'd try to find a local group you can plug in to and see if that helps your loneliness somewhat. I don't ever feel like my loneliness is ever "perfectly" assuaged but it does get to a point where I don't notice it when I'm actually living in community. Definitely a LOT less edgy.
If you can't find a local group, I'm sure some people here can try and assist. No group will be perfect and you may have to bounce around a bit initially but personally, I wouldn't go looking for people but rather looking for God operating within them (which may take some searching) and "probably" won't look like you expect it to but if God is in it, I think he'll make it "relatively" clear (in faith).
Let us know if you need more info. Forums aren't for everyone but I consider this to be something of an "auxiliary" resource within the church.
For sure if you keep feeling disgustingly dirty, that's not the Lord. Romans 8:1 "there is no therefore no condemnation..."
Reach out if you need and be patient, internet timing on a forum is usually different from direct person-to-person. I'd try to find a local group you can plug in to and see if that helps your loneliness somewhat. I don't ever feel like my loneliness is ever "perfectly" assuaged but it does get to a point where I don't notice it when I'm actually living in community. Definitely a LOT less edgy.
If you can't find a local group, I'm sure some people here can try and assist. No group will be perfect and you may have to bounce around a bit initially but personally, I wouldn't go looking for people but rather looking for God operating within them (which may take some searching) and "probably" won't look like you expect it to but if God is in it, I think he'll make it "relatively" clear (in faith).
Let us know if you need more info. Forums aren't for everyone but I consider this to be something of an "auxiliary" resource within the church.
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https://christianchat.com/blogs/i-saw-the-light.182858/
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5268848
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5267388
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5267377
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5265165
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5264638
https://christianchat.com/blogs/i-saw-the-light.182858/
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5268848
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5267388
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5267377
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5265165
https://christianchat.com/threads/this-side-of-the-glass.182929/post-5264638
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Congratulations on becoming a member of the family of God, my Brother! Welcome to His body. I praise the Lord for your decision, and for the enlightenment and belief He has given you to come to Him. 🙂
I caution you that the adversary will seek to snatch away the truth which you have received. Resist him and he will flee, the book of James says.
In reference to your post, I like to go back to
1 John 1:9-
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
(Emphasis on the "all" part 🙂)
Our Father is like the father of the prodigal. He longs for our reconciliation to Him. He is quick to forgive and embrace us when we (re)turn to Him in repentance. He Loves us with perfect Love, for He is Love!
Stand strong, my Brother. May your faith remain. Jesus told the thief on the cross next to Him, "Today you will be with Me in paradise." It is faith in Jesus alone which produces salvation. He already paid the price for our redemption in full. I pray by His grace that your faith in His substitutionary death and resurrection will endure. If you confess your sins, He will forgive and cleanse you. 🤍
God bless and keep you!! 🙏🏻✝️
I caution you that the adversary will seek to snatch away the truth which you have received. Resist him and he will flee, the book of James says.
In reference to your post, I like to go back to
1 John 1:9-
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
(Emphasis on the "all" part 🙂)
Our Father is like the father of the prodigal. He longs for our reconciliation to Him. He is quick to forgive and embrace us when we (re)turn to Him in repentance. He Loves us with perfect Love, for He is Love!
Stand strong, my Brother. May your faith remain. Jesus told the thief on the cross next to Him, "Today you will be with Me in paradise." It is faith in Jesus alone which produces salvation. He already paid the price for our redemption in full. I pray by His grace that your faith in His substitutionary death and resurrection will endure. If you confess your sins, He will forgive and cleanse you. 🤍
God bless and keep you!! 🙏🏻✝️
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Welcome James! We are all sinners, saved by grace. There is none that is righteous and hasn't sinned. Romans 3: 10- And no one sin is bigger than another. If you haven't read the book of Romans, it explains our sinful condition and our separation from God. Jesus gave His life for ours. He loved you so much that He gave His life for you so that you could be with Him and God the Father forever. This is the greatest love story that the world has ever known. And it is a rescue story. He rescued us. Romans 10: 9-10 says "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes to righteousness and with the mouth confession is made to salvation. Then verse 13, "For whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." You will be encouraged by reading the Gospel of John also. I encourage you to read more of the Bible and be guided by humble and mature people who have been Christians. This walk of faith we do with others. My favourite scripture- John 10:10 The enemy has come to steal, rob and destroy, but Jesus came to give us life, and life in abundance. Jesus wants to give you abundant life. He came to rescue you. He will heal you and clean you up. He is good at this, one day at a time. Just let Him do it. Keep it simple. Say, "Jesus, I surrender to the work You are doing in my life, in my heart, in my mind... Your way, not mine. Your will not mine. I give you my life. Help me."
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I can relate to some of what you're saying. For a while, I felt like I was battling my own demons, isolated and trapped in my own thoughts. It's a tough place to be in, and it's easy to start questioning everything, including your faith. I think it's important to remember that finding solace in your faith isn't about suddenly erasing all your doubts or struggles. It's about finding a source of hope and strength to help you navigate through those rough patches. And while it might seem "too easy" to just accept Jesus and be saved, I believe it's more about the sincerity of your heart and your willingness to seek forgiveness and change. Also, I wanted to mention the National Rehab Hotline nationalrehabhotline.org. Sometimes talking to someone who's trained to help can make a world of difference.
Welcome! I just read your post earlier today. I surrendered my life to Christ in 2009. But, I still struggle with anxiety and depression, at times. What’s the Lord is using to help me to endure those moments of depression and/or anxiety is praying through the devotional below. If you are still struggling with those feelings, it is my prayer that the devotional may help you pray through, as well!?! Agape and shalom!
365 Days of Prayer for Depression & Anxiety (Faux Leather) – Guided Daily Prayers for Anyone in Need of Hope and Comfort https://a.co/d/f1sOGqE
365 Days of Prayer for Depression & Anxiety (Faux Leather) – Guided Daily Prayers for Anyone in Need of Hope and Comfort https://a.co/d/f1sOGqE
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For me, it has not been easy either! I want to , yet see I can't do it. I have learned to do many things and leave many things behind me. Has that been going on with you too? I am not sinless, and finally accepted this, I cannot be sinless. Then had to deal with well! do I continue in sin since I am forgiven by God? God forbid is what I read in Romans 7, Therefore how can I stop, can I, can anyone ? So far since age 12 not ever have I ever stopped many things except, like too much drinking and drugs also. Only to see there is more to work on, to figuring out. I have now come to the end of me, trying to do, what I now see I can't be, that is perfect, I need God to teach me new and do and not be proud over ever doing it right ever again
How!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I stopped drinking it took me to see why I was drinking so much and doing drugs also. been dry now a long time, yet bad thought(s) has never stopped once, for me anyways!
So, maybe ask yourself this? Are you harming others, are you stealing and killing others, is sex an obsession that you rape others?
If not, you are the best you can be, stand in trust to God, if you are doing those things, The true God for you might still need to be in the lead through you? You decide, between God and you! God does really love you too.
1 John 2:1-4, 12 says so, for you to change in trust to God to lead through you onto all others in love to them too. The is what I now see as worry is/has gotten removed from me and is to this day trying to get the best of me in worrying over whether or not God really did do what the Bible says God did in Son for me and all the world too. This is in the mind of people over worry, and believing, yet not believing God did do that God said God did by Son for us all
Depression can only get one by one giving it power to be there over worrying over it, Matthew 6 tells me about worry
And yet worry thought has never left, has always hung out to get me worried and then I go nuts over and over again. Standing in trust to God regardless and by that, I have watched stuff leave, and got busy in thoughts of thankfulness over worrying over things that have no power unless I give it attention. Then seeing God say to me, my grace is sufficient for me, I am not harming others, God and I know this. So do you know this too in you, between God and you if are harming others, then seek help and trust to get it to turn you around and out from the Harmon others thanks
Hope to have helped James, I know somehow in you between God and you I have, God knows as you do too, thanks for the question, you are not alone.
Homwardbound
How!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I stopped drinking it took me to see why I was drinking so much and doing drugs also. been dry now a long time, yet bad thought(s) has never stopped once, for me anyways!
So, maybe ask yourself this? Are you harming others, are you stealing and killing others, is sex an obsession that you rape others?
If not, you are the best you can be, stand in trust to God, if you are doing those things, The true God for you might still need to be in the lead through you? You decide, between God and you! God does really love you too.
1 John 2:1-4, 12 says so, for you to change in trust to God to lead through you onto all others in love to them too. The is what I now see as worry is/has gotten removed from me and is to this day trying to get the best of me in worrying over whether or not God really did do what the Bible says God did in Son for me and all the world too. This is in the mind of people over worry, and believing, yet not believing God did do that God said God did by Son for us all
Depression can only get one by one giving it power to be there over worrying over it, Matthew 6 tells me about worry
And yet worry thought has never left, has always hung out to get me worried and then I go nuts over and over again. Standing in trust to God regardless and by that, I have watched stuff leave, and got busy in thoughts of thankfulness over worrying over things that have no power unless I give it attention. Then seeing God say to me, my grace is sufficient for me, I am not harming others, God and I know this. So do you know this too in you, between God and you if are harming others, then seek help and trust to get it to turn you around and out from the Harmon others thanks
Hope to have helped James, I know somehow in you between God and you I have, God knows as you do too, thanks for the question, you are not alone.
Homwardbound
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James, hell is a scary thought and reality. The gospel is that simple. We confuse it sometimes because in our human nature, we want to contribute to our salvation. The world thinks that God will judge us by our good and bad deeds. If we have more good deeds than bad ones, they think, God will accept us. However, the bible teaches that all have sinned, (Romans 3:23), this means that no matter how good we are, or how bad we are, God has made it all exactly the same for everybody. Salvation is a free gift that we accept through repentance and faith! When we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, all our sins are forgiven, past, present, and future sins. Because we are forgiven, we can live a new life in Christ now. We now have the Holy Spirit, who helps us to become holy. We don’t make ourselves holy, that’s God’s job, our job is to continue to have faith, and yield and obey the Holy Spirit, but even in this, God helps us. God Bless you.
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James,
I was very late coming to Christ. I wanted and needed Christ, but never dreamed that I would ever be accepted by Him. But, believe it or not, no one deserves His mercy and forgiveness! Remember, He came to save the lost sheep.
But I hear the doubt in your voice. Do you doubt that He saved the thief? Do you doubt that He made the axe-head float? Do you doubt that He made the blind to see? If not, then how can you doubt that He has the power to save sinners like you and I?
He did not save you because you believed, you believed because He called you. The credit belongs to God, not us.
Now, do not waste the gift that has been given! Find a good church and surround yourself with friends who will support you and help you to grow in your new found faith...
I was very late coming to Christ. I wanted and needed Christ, but never dreamed that I would ever be accepted by Him. But, believe it or not, no one deserves His mercy and forgiveness! Remember, He came to save the lost sheep.
But I hear the doubt in your voice. Do you doubt that He saved the thief? Do you doubt that He made the axe-head float? Do you doubt that He made the blind to see? If not, then how can you doubt that He has the power to save sinners like you and I?
He did not save you because you believed, you believed because He called you. The credit belongs to God, not us.
Now, do not waste the gift that has been given! Find a good church and surround yourself with friends who will support you and help you to grow in your new found faith...
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This I am in process daily learning how deep this truth is, at least for me
As a man thinks, so is he (Proverbs 23:7)
As a man thinks, so is he (Proverbs 23:7)
- Proverbs 12:15
A fool thinks he needs no advice, but a wise man listens to others.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Proverbs 13:16
A wise man thinks ahead; a fool doesn’t and even brags about it!
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Proverbs 15:28
A good man thinks before he speaks; the evil man pours out his evil words without a thought.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Proverbs 16:25
Before every man there lies a wide and pleasant road he thinks is right, but it ends in death.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Proverbs 18:11
The rich man thinks of his wealth as an impregnable defense, a high wall of safety. What a dreamer! - Job 11:5
Oh, that God would speak and tell you what he thinks! - Ecclesiastes 7:4
Yes, a wise man thinks much of death, while the fool thinks only of having a good time now. - Luke 8:18
So be careful how you listen; for whoever has, to him shall be given more; and whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has shall be taken away from him.” - Romans 3:18
They care nothing about God nor what he thinks of them.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Romans 14:13
So don’t criticize each other anymore. Try instead to live in such a way that you will never make your brother stumble by letting him see you doing something he thinks is wrong.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Romans 14:23
But anyone who believes that something he wants to do is wrong shouldn’t do it. He sins if he does, for he thinksit is wrong, and so for him it is wrong. Anything that is done apart from what he feels is right is sin.
- Romans 3:18
Okay, seeing this now:
I cannot get angry without anger thought(s). What? But I get angry so fast in a split second!
I have captivated thought(s) of anger, that is what has gotten in control of me, so instantly.
It goes deeper, Lust of this world, for others, to like me, even love me by what I do right according to them. I can fool others Ha, Ha, Ninja from resident Alien
I was brought up on reward and punishment, maybe y'll too. When I got punished and told to go to my room and stay there until I tell you to come out.
Was I there????????? Physically (unless I snuck out the window somehow) yet no matter, I was not there, I was in my mindset, figuring out how to not go through this again, I bet others also.
You see, I became the God of me to get away with what I wanted over what others wanted, and acted as behaving to get away with stuff behind my parents and others backs, anyone else?
God tells us, to do and not do. Is what God says best for us or not? (Jeremiah 29:11)
God says do not harm your neighbors, not even yourself, is that way the best for us the people or not?
I see it is, therefore God I need you to teach me the truth, in your laws, (Psalm 1:1-4) I trust you will, I trust you love me, and all others too, because Son went to that cross to a physical death once for all Hebrews 10:10. Who else would do that, I admit I would not, would anyone else reading this here?
Might be time to turn to God, having every person's best interest at heart. I keep my hand off the stove now, been burnt too many times
I cannot get angry without anger thought(s). What? But I get angry so fast in a split second!
I have captivated thought(s) of anger, that is what has gotten in control of me, so instantly.
It goes deeper, Lust of this world, for others, to like me, even love me by what I do right according to them. I can fool others Ha, Ha, Ninja from resident Alien
I was brought up on reward and punishment, maybe y'll too. When I got punished and told to go to my room and stay there until I tell you to come out.
Was I there????????? Physically (unless I snuck out the window somehow) yet no matter, I was not there, I was in my mindset, figuring out how to not go through this again, I bet others also.
You see, I became the God of me to get away with what I wanted over what others wanted, and acted as behaving to get away with stuff behind my parents and others backs, anyone else?
God tells us, to do and not do. Is what God says best for us or not? (Jeremiah 29:11)
God says do not harm your neighbors, not even yourself, is that way the best for us the people or not?
I see it is, therefore God I need you to teach me the truth, in your laws, (Psalm 1:1-4) I trust you will, I trust you love me, and all others too, because Son went to that cross to a physical death once for all Hebrews 10:10. Who else would do that, I admit I would not, would anyone else reading this here?
Might be time to turn to God, having every person's best interest at heart. I keep my hand off the stove now, been burnt too many times