Did He, Or Didn't He?

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As usual another thread that started out promising has devolved into chaos and inanity from all of the non-relevant noise that the "grace" believer circle-jerk club is unashamed to spew out.

I really wish they or some others had stayed on topic and explained how sins can be forgiven before they're committed, and provide a scriptural example of such. Also, imagine such a lawless thing happening in this world.

It was fine till you and the other showed up.
 
As usual another thread that started out promising has devolved into chaos and inanity from all of the non-relevant noise that the "grace" believer circle-jerk club is unashamed to spew out.

I really wish they or some others had stayed on topic and explained how sins can be forgiven before they're committed, and provide a scriptural example of such. Also, imagine such a lawless thing happening in this world.

Scriptural example. Jesus died on the cross for your sins that hadn't yet been committed (I.e, before you were even born). How can He pay for a crime that hasn't been committed yet? He did, though and thats what matters. By implication all sin, past, present and future were taken care of at the cross of Calvary by Jesus Christ's death.
 
I do not know if you saw it or not. But a few a few days ago said it was perfectly ok and not a sin to have multiple wives in the OT. That was not adultry.. (SMH)

it is bad.


yeah...good thing I had already swallowed my coffee...this is a new laptop...would not want to deal with keyboard damage

I've seen this before in another forum...there is nothing wrong with multiple wives yada blada bleep bleep boo goo snoo goo

I guess slavery is ok by the same logic
 
Scriptural example. Jesus died on the cross for your sins that hadn't yet been committed (I.e, before you were even born). How can He pay for a crime that hasn't been committed yet? He did, though and thats what matters. By implication all sin, past, present and future were taken care of at the cross of Calvary by Jesus Christ's death.

thats the part they do not get, If Jesus did not pay for ALL future sin, Then those sins can never be forgiven apart from Christ coming and dieing on the cross again..

so when they say future sin is not forgiven, they put christ to open shame
 
Scriptural example. Jesus died on the cross for your sins that hadn't yet been committed (I.e, before you were even born). How can He pay for a crime that hasn't been committed yet? He did, though and thats what matters. By implication all sin, past, present and future were taken care of at the cross of Calvary by Jesus Christ's death.

Finally, someone wants to be on topic.

Jesus death paid for sins committed under the old covenant. His death began a new covenant. Where is it written that his death forgave sins that had not yet been committed?
 
yeah...good thing I had already swallowed my coffee...this is a new laptop...would not want to deal with keyboard damage

I've seen this before in another forum...there is nothing wrong with multiple wives yada blada bleep bleep boo goo snoo goo

I guess slavery is ok by the same logic

I bey ya if a wife wanted multiple husbands they would be all bent out of shape.. YOU SINNER! YOU WILL GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!!

its is amazing when we get to pick and chose what is sin and what is not.
 
Finally, someone wants to be on topic.

Jesus death paid for sins committed under the old covenant. His death began a new covenant. Where is it written that his death forgave sins that had not yet been committed?

Thats wrong

Jesus death FULFILLED THE OLD COVENANT, because the OLD COVENANT could NOT SAVE ANYONE.

this lead to the new covenant, Which is only available because jesus took the sin of every man womand and child (he fulfilled the law in their place)


If jesus did not pay for sin of the New covenant, The people in the new are under the old, Because the death of Christ could not be applied to them


You just put everyonne in the NT under law. because Christ did not die for them, Only the people of the old testament/

Your words, not mine.
 
I bey ya if a wife wanted multiple husbands they would be all bent out of shape.. YOU SINNER! YOU WILL GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!!

its is amazing when we get to pick and chose what is sin and what is not.



It's also a port hole into one's mind LOL!

ooooo yes yes...gimmee another woman...

it's in the Bible


multiple husbands? gads....I can see having to make two suppers...what Henry? you are not in the moods for stew?

Jacob? you don't want what Henry wants?

tell you what boys...it's pizza night!
 
It's also a port hole into one's mind LOL!

ooooo yes yes...gimmee another woman...

it's in the Bible


multiple husbands? gads....I can see having to make two suppers...what Henry? you are not in the moods for stew?

Jacob? you don't want what Henry wants?

tell you what boys...it's pizza night!

You know what is sad, They scream and curse at homosexuals. Yet homosexuals are no different then they are. They just claimed that being gay and living it out is not a sin,,

They all have their sins they leave out so they can have their fun,,
 
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Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead Finally, someone wants to be on topic.

Jesus death paid for sins committed under the old covenant. His death began a new covenant. Where is it written that his death forgave sins that had not yet been committed?







two dimensional thinking and 1 dem understanding
 
what? with pins? he sticks you?

and the banner, what?

wrapped around your eyes?

I should probably stop now...let me know

I have a brother I email. If I think I am getting gout of line,, Sadly I think we all need people like this..
 
oh goody

someone just kick started the 'can a Christian loose their salvation thread'

that revolving door is well installed, eh? LOL!
 
Finally, someone wants to be on topic.

Jesus death paid for sins committed under the old covenant. His death began a new covenant. Where is it written that his death forgave sins that had not yet been committed?

Let me put it this way. In the OT fresh sin called for fresh blood. In the NT fresh sin is dealt with through the blood of Christ. Jesus doesn't have to hop back up on a cross to pay for your fresh sin. His blood is everlasting. He has an eternal priesthood and is your High Priest. He isn't like the priest of old, paying for His sins and then the sins of the people again and again. He did it once, and for all. Read Hebrews 10. So any new and fresh sin is washed in the blood of Christ thereby making Jesus' payment/sacrifice for sin take care of all sin (I.e, past, present and future).
 
oh goody

someone just kick started the 'can a Christian loose their salvation thread'

that revolving door is well installed, eh? LOL!

I guess the ones which are currently ongoing are not enough..
 
Let me put it this way. In the OT fresh sin called for fresh blood. In the NT fresh sin is dealt with through the blood of Christ. Jesus doesn't have to hop back up on a cross to pay for your fresh sin. His blood is everlasting. He has an eternal priesthood and is your High Priest. He isn't like the priest of old, paying for His sins and then the sins of the people again and again. He did it once, and for all. Read Hebrews 10. So any new and fresh sin is washed in the blood of Christ thereby making Jesus' payment/sacrifice for sin take care of all sin (I.e, past, present and future).



He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption. HEBREWS 9:12


Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm. REVELATION 11:19




PERMANENT AND ETERNAL