Did Jesus Create All Things At His Father's Command?

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FreeNChrist said:
Ummm, you put yourself on the list by knowingly denying the Trinity. :rolleyes:
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I don't deny the Trinity. It is my belief that one God serves in all three capacities. One man can simultaneously be a father, son, husband, lawyer, singer … And so it is, one God can simultaneously be a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
 
Stephen63 said:
Yeeeah, like when Jesus was baptized by John God didn't say "this is me in whom I'm well pleased, hear me."
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Jesus Christ was God in flesh, I believe. Part of his mission was to set an example for us. Therefore, he did not run around saying, "I am God." Instead, he set an example for us to follow.
 
resurrection33 said:
I don't deny the Trinity. It is my belief that one God serves in all three capacities. One man can simultaneously be a father, son, husband, lawyer, singer … And so it is, one God can simultaneously be a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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Yes you do deny the Trinity, that is a denial of the Trinity.
 
resurrection33 said:
I don't deny the Trinity. It is my belief that one God serves in all three capacities. One man can simultaneously be a father, son, husband, lawyer, singer … And so it is, one God can simultaneously be a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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Oh your a Modalist? That the One God can operate many modes i.e father, son, etc etc. Yeah im sure that was rejected as heresy during the council of trent and nicea.
 
resurrection33 said:
I believe that I am right, but if I am wrong, God will teach me that. I don't feel the need to insult people that disagree with me.
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The trinity FACT means One God in three divine persons.. That is the accurate definition of trinity in a nutshell. So aahhhhh no you dont believe that do you?
 
nowyouseem033 said:
The trinity FACT means One God in three divine persons.. That is the accurate definition of trinity in a nutshell. So aahhhhh no you dont believe that do you?
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I believe that God is simultaneously a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. A person can be more than one thing at a time. A man can be a father, son, husband, banker, singer in a choir, etc.
 
resurrection33 said:
Modalist? Are you one of those people who likes to put other people into categories?
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Well yes because the belief you espouse says i believe in this and i dont believe in that. Gee if you get offended at that how are you ever going to cope being called a Christian because people categorize Christians as those weird folk who believe in the bible.
 
resurrection33 said:
I believe that God is simultaneously a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. A person can be more than one thing at a time. A man can be a father, son, husband, banker, singer in a choir, etc.
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at a time??? hhhmmmm this God was three in one before time?? time has no relevancy to who he is in nature. Before time God was three persons in one. The father, son, and holy spirit are God yes but are actually three different persons not aspects not roles, not modes but three different PERSONAGES. That is the trinity and you would agree with that right :)
 
resurrection33 said:
Modalist? Are you one of those people who likes to put other people into categories?
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Hey i dont mind being put in a category so what? Being a Christian means im being put in a category so yeah. I also have a category of gender and nationality and oh yes belief. Seriously... saying that you believe this and not that means you are seperating yourself from those who believe what you do not believe. Which means you are in a category seperate from those who disagree with you. Pork ribs and bbq sauce are different food categorys doesnt mean theyre not food? and man are they delicious when they are combined...mmmmmm
 
nowyouseem033 said:
Well yes because the belief you espouse says i believe in this and i dont believe in that. Gee if you get offended at that how are you ever going to cope being called a Christian because people categorize Christians as those weird folk who believe in the bible.
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I use labels sometimes myself (liberal, conservative), but they only tell you so much.
 
nowyouseem033 said:
at a time??? hhhmmmm this God was three in one before time?? time has no relevancy to who he is in nature. Before time God was three persons in one. The father, son, and holy spirit are God yes but are actually three different persons not aspects not roles, not modes but three different PERSONAGES. That is the trinity and you would agree with that right :)
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I believe in one God, not three. If I am wrong, the Lord will teach me that. It seems to upset you that I disagree with you. Is it my welfare you are concerned about?
 

There IS only ONE God. :) Father, son, Holy Ghost/Spirit..
resurrection33 said:
Another Trinity argument? I can't believe there are three Gods. I believe in one who serves as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Father is the Creator, Jesus is the Son, and the Holy Spirit is God when he talks to us. But you don't believe that, and we could go round and round till the cows come home.
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God is father AND son AND Holy Spirit. The bible talks of ONE God, ONE creator. Not 3 separate gods..Yes, Jesus is Lord and Savior, but he is also God and the Holy Spirit. It's confusing but true. lol
FreeNChrist said:
If the Jesus you believe in is not God the Son, the second Person of the Trinity, then your Jesus is merely a figment of your own imagination who is not Lord and Savior, and who cannot save you, and we do not believe in the same Jesus at all. That is simply the truth. If you find it insulting, so be it.
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Resurrection didn't deny the Trinity, knowingly or otherwise. He knows who the Trinity is. It's YOU who seems to have trouble knowing who they are.. God is God, God is Jesus, God is the Holy Spirit.
FreeNChrist said:
Ummm, you put yourself on the list by knowingly denying the Trinity. :rolleyes:
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Now everyone stop arguing. It's Christmas Eve, so let's have some eggnog. :o
 
resurrection33 said:
I believe in one God, not three. If I am wrong, the Lord will teach me that. It seems to upset you that I disagree with you. Is it my welfare you are concerned about?
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Well if thats what you believe i also believe that too. I believe in one God revealed as three distinctly different persons of that One God. Im glad we agree there..:) Oh and no not really.. where not disagreeing right? we both believe in the trinity. That God is One being revealed as three persons :) so no disagrement here
 
blue_ladybug said:

There IS only ONE God. :) Father, son, Holy Ghost/Spirit.

God is father AND son AND Holy Spirit. The bible talks of ONE God, ONE creator. Not 3 separate gods..Yes, Jesus is Lord and Savior, but he is also God and the Holy Spirit. It's confusing but true. lol


Resurrection didn't deny the Trinity, knowingly or otherwise. He knows who the Trinity is. It's YOU who seems to have trouble knowing who they are.. God is God, God is Jesus, God is the Holy Spirit.


Now everyone stop arguing. It's Christmas Eve, so let's have some eggnog. :o
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He knowingly denies the Trinity and knowingly tries to pervert what the Trinity means. Don't be naive. :rolleyes:
 
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The Trinity is made up of God the Father, Jesus the Son, and God/Jesus the Holy Spirit.. God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, are all one and the same entity..
 
resurrection33 said:
I believe that God is simultaneously a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. A person can be more than one thing at a time. A man can be a father, son, husband, banker, singer in a choir, etc.
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This is true, that a man can be both a father and a son, but not his own father and his own son. (I say this because a son requires a father and a father requires a child; a son in this case.)

Same essence doesn't necessarily mean same person. Likewise, three persons doesn't necessarily mean three essences (or three different gods). They are all God (same essence), in three persons (but not three essences), who agree on everything and work toward the same purposes.

God said, "let us make man in our image and likeness". (Note that the persons are plural and the image and likeness are both singular.)
 
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