Diplomacy at its finest

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Fmr. U.N. Ambassador Criticizes NYC Hotel Hosting Hassan Rowhani

Says he will publicly shame hotel if it allows him to stay


Hassan RowhaniHassan Rowhani / AP

BY: Adam Kredo
September 20, 2013 9:00 am

A former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations is calling on a prominent New York City hotel to deny accommodations Iranian President Hassan Rowhani and his political delegation, which will be in the city next week for the United Nations General Assembly meeting

Fmr. U.N. Ambassador Criticizes Hotel Hosting Hassan Rowhani | Washington Free Beacon
 
Judge rules that Feds have right to seize Fifth Ave. tower tied to Iran, largest asset seizure in US history

Feds accused the buildings owners, a foundation with ties to the Iranian government, of funneling rent proceeds back to Iran
The building is at 52nd Street and 5th Avenue, one of the most sought-after addresses in the city
Selling it might fetch upwards of $700million for the families of victims of Iran-aided terror attacks

By RYAN GORMAN and VIVIENNE PARRY
PUBLISHED: 22:12 GMT, 17 September 2013 | UPDATED: 16:09 GMT, 18 September 2013

A federal judge handed an Iranian-owned Fifth Avenue office building in New York to the government Monday.

Worth as much as $700million, 650 Fifth Avenue was seized by the government because the owners funnelled rent money to Iran, a judge ruled. The 36-story building sits on the corner of 52nd Street, in the middle of one of the city’s toniest neighborhoods.

Seized: 650 Fifth Avenue, a $700million office tower owned by an Iran-government affiliate, has been seized by the US government

This is believed to be ‘the largest real property forfeiture’ in the history of the US government, prosecutors told the New York Daily News. Proceeds from its sale will be given to the families of Iran-aided terror attack victims.

Handed down by Manhattan Federal Judge Katherine Forrest, the decision is subject to appeal, the Daily News noted, but the ruling came only days before a separate private lawsuit was to commence in an attempt to seize the building on behalf of those victims.

‘The court has found that, based on the incontrovertible record evidence,’ rent money was funneled to a state-run Iranian bank, making it ‘a front for the government of Iran.’

‘The assets at issue . . . are subject to forfeiture,’ Judge Forrest concluded.

A real estate appraiser told the Daily News the building was snared at just the right time.

‘This is the best time to sell, it’s such a hot market,’ the appraiser said, ‘[but] you know the government, they’ll drag their feet and probably miss their chance to make a boatload.’

Worth up to $2,000 a foot at 380,000, the building could potentially fetch just over $700million, according to the appraiser – making it comparable in value to the nearby General Motors building, the Daily News noted.

Both Juicy Couture and Godiva rent ground-floor retail space.

The federal government and a private group representing the families of victims of the 1993 Beirut Marine base bombing and the 9/11 terror attacks were moving to seize the building, both in an attempt to provide compensation to the victims and their families.

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sooooo.....now IRAN was involved in 9-11?
 
It is unbelievable what the US gets away with when it comes to Iran.
 
It is unbelievable what the US gets away with when it comes to Iran.

Or.. what Iran gets away with when it comes to the US. No wait you have it right.

Like when we had their elected leader deposed so we could put in a puppet for more oil. That went so swimmingly, we then had to help Iraq fight Iran and then we - oh, right. Or when we went to Afghanistan for Bin laden, I mean heroin, and then when we left there is even more heroin.

So that's what 3 for 0 in that area of the world now?
 
Since y'all are so good at diplomacy and understand all the variables and those invovled and our national interests, smarter than people who have been in diplomacy for years who could never make reasonable decisions...

I suggest going to Washington and apply for secretary of state.

Can't be worse than the one we have now....

and diplomacy is never neat and clean. Can't be, but it sure makes an easy target for those with very active imaginations.

Its not about making mistakes...diplomacy in its nature, is a mistake waiting to happen. Choosing the lesser evil for national interests and in some cases, with a little politics thrown in, ( Politics + national decision making = big messes ) always leads to consequences that are not going to be acceptable, but not acting would be worse.

Sure would be nice if this world was cut and clean, but its not.
 
Iran news agency slams CNN for ‘fabricating’ Rouhani’s Holocaust remarks

Published time: September 26, 2013 12:27
Edited time: September 26, 2013 13:12 Get short URL

Iran’s state-owned Fars claims that CNN has ‘fabricated’ the remarks made by President Hassan Rouhani in response to the question about the Holocaust. The US news channel added to or changed parts of his remarks, the agency said.

On Tuesday, the newly elected Iranian president gave his first English-language TV message in an interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour. The interview made international headlines with hundreds of news agencies worldwide boasting titles like "Iran's President Rouhani calls Holocaust 'reprehensible' crime against Jews" or "Rouhani recognizes the Holocaust as crime against Jews".

Asking about Rouhani’s take on the Holocaust, Amanpour noted that his predecessor, President Ahmadinejad, infamously denied the Holocaust. "Do you accept what it was, and what was it?" the US journalist asked.

However, according to Iran’s Fars News Agency (FNA), the news channel made up parts of Rouhani's answers, adding the word 'Holocaust' among other placatory remarks to its translation from the answers given in Farsi.



Fars translation:
"I have said before that I am not a historian and historians should specify, state and explain the aspects of historical events, but generally we fully condemn any kind of crime committed against humanity throughout history, including the crime committed by the Nazis both against the Jews and non-Jews, the same way that if today any crime is committed against any nation or any religion or any people or any belief, we condemn that crime and genocide. Therefore, what the Nazis did is condemned, [but] the aspects that you talk about, clarification of these aspects is a duty of the historians and researchers, I am not a history scholar."

CNN translation:
"I've said before that I am not a historian and then, when it comes to speaking of the dimensions of the Holocaust, it is the historians that should reflect on it. But in general I can tell you that any crime that happens in history against humanity, including the crime that Nazis committed towards the Jews as well as non-Jews is reprehensible and condemnable. Whatever criminality they committed against the Jews, we condemn, the taking of human life is contemptible, it makes no difference whether that life is Jewish life, Christian or Muslim, for us it is the same, but taking the human life is something our religion rejects but this doesn’t mean that on the other hand you can say Nazis committed crime against a group now therefore, they must usurp the land of another group and occupy it. This too is an act that should be condemned. There should be an even-handed discussion."


Iran news agency slams CNN for ‘fabricating’ Rouhani’s Holocaust remarks — RT News < click

:confused:
 
You don't expect Western media to change old habits when it comes to Iran ? This time they were found out.
 
You don't expect Western media to change old habits when it comes to Iran ? This time they were found out.

the thing is, why can't they just tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may?
if Iran is the uber bad guy, the truth will be known. do you have to make stuff up to make things happen?

grrr
 
If you are a westerner: Don't trust the US government. Don't trust Iran. Both try to mess with the variables of human nature.