Do not be a hater of reproofs (Proverbs 15:10)

[MikkoAinasoja]

10. There is grievous correction for him that forsaketh the way; And he that hateth reproof shall die. (Proverbs 15:10)

Do not cast behind your back, a good advise for your path, or being a hater of reproofs, because of the nature of your flesh, which has not submitted under the values of God, but it leads you to live your life according to your own desires, and so you heart do not seek the will of God, but pleasure of the life, and this kind of heart is like full of weeds, and the seed have no space to grow.

 

[PeterJens]

I suspect you believe you are the reprover of other people.
You are right if your reproof is right or correct, but not if it fails, and is merely there to make you feel better and the other party less so.

Part of mental illness is putting others right, when actually you have little understanding of your own failures.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

I suspect you believe you are the reprover of other people.
You are right if your reproof is right or correct, but not if it fails, and is merely there to make you feel better and the other party less so.

Part of mental illness is putting others right, when actually you have little understanding of your own failures.

The reproof what I give, is for knowledge of God's will, and for salvation of human souls.

It's a pity if you see my exhortations just for exalting of my ego, but not like words of truth, and call to the change.

 

[PeterJens]

The reproof what I give, is for knowledge of God's will, and for salvation of human souls.

It's a pity if you see my exhortations just for exalting of my ego, but not like words of truth, and call to the change.

There is a big difference between a call to something and actual reality.

Your audience have to accept your description of them is correct or else they will assume you are talking about someone else.

Secondly the thing you are calling them to, they have to believe it is achievable and correct.

Now from memory, I do not think you have managed to fulfill either of these basic criteria, so people generally ignore you and your ideas.

Take as an example Jonah. When he went to Nineveh they accepted what they were doing was wrong and worthy of judgement. They believed Jonah was sent by God, and they repented, at which point God did not bring judgement.

So why do you feel you need to reprove people and what is the final goal?

 

[p_rehbein]

The reproof what I give, is for knowledge of God's will, and for salvation of human souls.



Proverbs 21:23) Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.

24) Proud and haughty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

There is a big difference between a call to something and actual reality.

Your audience have to accept your description of them is correct or else they will assume you are talking about someone else.

Secondly the thing you are calling them to, they have to believe it is achievable and correct.

Now from memory, I do not think you have managed to fulfill either of these basic criteria, so people generally ignore you and your ideas.

Take as an example Jonah. When he went to Nineveh they accepted what they were doing was wrong and worthy of judgement. They believed Jonah was sent by God, and they repented, at which point God did not bring judgement.

So why do you feel you need to reprove people and what is the final goal?

This is not the time of Nineveh any more, but the time what we live much more difficult time, as it was predicted to be.

1. But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. 2. For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3. without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, 4. traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; 5. holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power therefore. From these also turn away. (2 Timothy 3:1-5)

We live now in the world which is a full of all kind of temptations, other way than the past world.

8... Nevertheless, when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on
the earth? (Luke 18:8)

This is the time which I try to wake you all to see it, so you may resist the influence of it.

 

[PeterJens]

This is not the time of Nineveh any more, but the time what we live much more difficult time, as it was predicted to be.

I agree with you that we live in a different time in human history. Things are now possible that were never possible before, even this conversation. The temptations today are because so much more is possible, to escape and be entertained.

But in the past people had no free time, little opportunities to explore and experience so much. Now so much is possible will it be taken advantage of or is the gospel actually weaker than the opportunity at our doorstep.

So I see today, the answers can now be preached and applied, the door flung open and people brought into the Kingdom, like never before. But maybe you see with massive opportunity people are so evil it will only end in failure and destruction. I am more optimistic as to the nature of the gospel and the love planted in people. Families exist and life goes on from generation to generation because it works, not because it fails, with faithful mothers loving and looking after their children no matter how rubbish the society is around them.

So I do not see you are saying anything new or with great insight or have an answer which people can obtain.

I have a message, it is, you matter, God loves you, and you can obtain this reality in your heart if you learn to walk in openness and honest in Jesus.

 

[Joidevivre]

We proclaim a crucified Jesus. This is God's power and wisdom.

 

[Yet]

Sound doctrine is not accepted today. Traditions of men are. So good luck on reproving with the word.
So as in the days of Noah, they were buying and selling, marrying and giving in marriage. (Following ball games, going to the movies, etc., buying into the best neighborhoods, best cars, RV's, boats) The church is way to busy, caught up in the affairs of this life to worry about discerning His word. Go to church yes but to be the church.....nope!
To busy keeping up with the Jones next door to be bothered discerning the 'body'.
Jesus still has 'no place to lay His head' for He is not allowed to be the head.....the executive pastor is the head. If you don't believe me, go ask his congregation.
More church bashing? Yep! Until it repents!

 

[Yet]

To follow and operate in a system of things that have no validity in the word of God, is to declare the word of God insufficient, lacking something. Blind acceptance of the things that are. Reproof no longer encouraged or accepted is a sign of the last days where unscrupulous men speaking perverse things are soundly accepted as the churches ekklesiastical leaders.
This has been a problem for 1800 years now, and set in unmovable stone. I do have hope that a remnant is awakening. A few that are sick at heart for the Sardis church. They cry night and day for reformation. Standing in the gap!

 

[DesiredHaven]

All scripture is profitable for reproof (2 Ti 3:16)

Even as reproof here is equated with his words

Prov 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: (( behold )) , I will pour out my spirit unto you,
I will make known my words unto you

Paul says,

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Says this also

Prov 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee:
rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.