Shouldn't the Word which became Flesh be the definer of what Love is according to Him?
Do We Have To Keep The Law?
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Shouldn't the Word which became Flesh be the definer of what Love is according to Him?
Absolutely.
Therefore [in] all [things], whatever you want that people should do to you, thus also you do to them. For this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:12
That's not what the vision was about. Peter saw this vision 3 times and was "Confused" at what it could mean. Then when he explained what the vision was and what it meant he never once mentioned it having to be about clean and unclean meats, he instead says, "G-D has shown me that I shall call not MAN common of unclean." Try again.
It is simple, you actually quoted the answer IMO, "as I have loved you" pre Messiah the perfect example had not yet been shown to humans, post Messiah it had been displayed.
So is rejecting the Law and Prophets and teaching others to do the same "Loving your Brethren?" Is rejecting God's instruction and creating our own "Loving God?"
Does your definition of "Love" destroy even one Word from the mouth of God?
I would say no. We need to learn from God how to love our selves, and how to love our brethren.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
But you preach the Messiah destroyed His own Laws. Would the Messiah destroy His Own Love?
This is why He said not the "Hearers of His Words, but the Doers of His Word He will manifest Himself to.
I simply reported what the son of GOD said. Your response brings this to mind
One reason, I believe there is more than one, is because the Priesthood and those Levites (Pharisees) who were supposed to teach the people what Leviticus said had corrupted the teachings.
Matt. 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Matt. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Not of God.
The teaching of the Messiah was new to most of the people of that time.
Jesus said to live by ALL the Words of the Word which became Flesh. Do you believe your understanding of this one sentence;
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Wipes out the rest of the entire Bible? Or should I take this Word, along with other Words like: "If you Love Me, Keep my Commandments" and consider them All to prove "what is the acceptable and perfect Will of God"?
There is never any conflict between one passage of Scripture and another. Since Paul was asked to convey the decision of the Jerusalem Council to all the Gentiles, Paul could not possibly contravene or contradict what was stipulated. Therefore we must properly interpret what Paul said later. What is the CONTEXT, and what was the significance of what Paul said? So let's look at the passage carefully and not suggest to Christians that there are contradictory commandments in the Bible or that any instructions in Scripture are "nonsensical". That statement itself is nonsensical.
Paul devotes 1 Corinthians chapter 8 to the issue of eating meat offered to idols and tells Christians TO DESIST from eating such meat because it could affect weaker brethren. So he in fact reinforces what the Jerusalem Council stipulated.
IDOLS ARE NOTHING BUT IDOLS, THEY ARE NOT GODS
As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. (v 4)
BUT FOR SOME CHRISTIANS (WHO CAME OUT OF IDOLATRY) THEY ARE STILL GODS
Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge... (v 7a)
THEREFORE THEIR CONSCIENCE WOULD BE DEFILED BY EATING SUCH MEAT
... for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. (v 7b)
A STRONGER CHRISTIAN WOULD BECOME A STUMBLING BLOCK BY EATING SUCH MEAT
But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? (vv 9-11)
THEREFORE IT IS A SIN TO EAT MEAT OFFERED TO IDOLS
But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend. (vv 12,13)
The Scripture is quite plain, and there are many, many countries where foods (including meats) are offered to idols at this time. Therefore this commandment is binding on Christians today, and you should therefore retract that statement about this commandment being "nonsensical".
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It's interesting how people keep hearing 'love is the fulfillment of the law' as 'love is the replacement of the law'.
Nehemiah6 said:
You made a large jump there. It is only sin if it causes another brother to stumble, but you enlarged that to it being sin to eat such food. NO, it is not binding on Christians. Acts 15:20, 29 have nothing to do with us today.
new covenant, a new priesthood: of necessity, a new law
Remember not the former things,
nor consider the things of old.
Behold, I am doing a new thing;
now it springs forth, do you not perceive it?
(Isaiah 43:19)
a new creation -- behold! He is making all things new!
should He have said "I am explaining more clearly an old commandment you have had & studied for 1,500 years"
instead of what He actually said, "I give you a new commandment" ?
so the major takeaway is "wow this Jesus has a great understanding of Torah" instead of "wow He has authority to make a new covenant and new law" ?
is this more like "you have heard it said .. but I say .."
or more like "do this in remembrance of me" ?
((are those more are alike than they may seem?))
something "new" or raising the interpretation of something old to an astounding level?
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Do We Have To Keep The Law?
No, we get to!
Psalm 19:7-11, “The Torah of יהוה is perfect, bringing back the being; The witness of יהוה is trustworthy, making wise the simple; The orders of יהוה are straight, rejoicing the heart; The command of יהוה is clear, enlightening the eyes; The fear of יהוה is clean, standing forever; The right-rulings of יהוה are true, They are righteous altogether, More desirable than gold, Than much fine gold; And sweeter than honey and the honeycomb. Also, Your servant is warned by them, In guarding them there is great reward.”
No, we get to!
Psalm 19:7-11, “The Torah of יהוה is perfect, bringing back the being; The witness of יהוה is trustworthy, making wise the simple; The orders of יהוה are straight, rejoicing the heart; The command of יהוה is clear, enlightening the eyes; The fear of יהוה is clean, standing forever; The right-rulings of יהוה are true, They are righteous altogether, More desirable than gold, Than much fine gold; And sweeter than honey and the honeycomb. Also, Your servant is warned by them, In guarding them there is great reward.”