Do You Believe Aliens May Exist In The Universe?

[Kavik]

Too bad you can't talk to Isaac Asimov, who was a professor of biochemistry at Boston University. He calculated on the basis of the size of the universe, it was unlikely there were other life forms, based in the narrow spectrum that life filled on earth.

It's been estimated that there are somewhere in the neighborhood of something like 40 billion possible planets which have something called a circumstellar habitable zone (a/k/a/ the "Goldilocks zone"), the region around a star where a planet with sufficient atmospheric pressure can maintain liquid water on its surface. In addition, something like 11 billion of these likely revolve around a star similar to our sun.

While there are certainly a slew of other factors to take into consideration other than just the presence of water and and an atmosphere similar to earth's, the sheer number of possibilities alone make it, at least for me, virtually impossible to believe we're the only ones 'out there'.

It's a bit difficult to wrap one's mind around how utterly insignificant our little spec of the universe is. And yes, one could certainly argue that the Creator of the Universe itself decided to pick our insignificant spec, but religion aside, who's to say that said Creator hasn't done exactly the same everywhere else?

Absolutely no offense intended to anyone, but looking for evidence/suggestions, etc. of extraterrestrial life in the Bible is a bit like looking for evidence of cell phone usage in the Bible - it just isn't there; why would you ever think it would be?

 

[Budman]

I've heard that there were several different groups from different nations who had videos of that supposed hoax.

How many have stepped forward and had their footage examined by professionals?

None that I know of.

 

[Budman]

It's been estimated that there are somewhere in the neighborhood of something like 40 billion possible planets which have something called a circumstellar habitable zone (a/k/a/ the "Goldilocks zone"), the region around a star where a planet with sufficient atmospheric pressure can maintain liquid water on its surface. In addition, something like 11 billion of these likely revolve around a star similar to our sun.

While there are certainly a slew of other factors to take into consideration other than just the presence of water and and an atmosphere similar to earth's, the sheer number of possibilities alone make it, at least for me, virtually impossible to believe we're the only ones 'out there'.

It's a bit difficult to wrap one's mind around how utterly insignificant our little spec of the universe is. And yes, one could certainly argue that the Creator of the Universe itself decided to pick our insignificant spec, but religion aside, who's to say that said Creator hasn't done exactly the same everywhere else?

Absolutely no offense intended to anyone, but looking for evidence/suggestions, etc. of extraterrestrial life in the Bible is a bit like looking for evidence of cell phone usage in the Bible - it just isn't there; why would you ever think it would be?

If evolution can't be proven here, why do you believe it's proven out there?

 

[louis]

How many have stepped forward and had their footage examined by professionals?

None that I know of.

So basically, even though there are several videos of this event by different people from different nations, you think that there is some sort of collusion between these people to perpetuate a fraud?

 

[Kavik]

If evolution can't be proven here, why do you believe it's proven out there?

Guess it’s a matter of opinion. Evolution has been proven; it’s just that certain groups are hell-bent on a literal Genesis and no degree of proof will ever be enough to convenience them otherwise.

 

[MMarie]

I was listening to a Christian radio show on this subject, and the response from Christian callers shocked me.

So, I'm just curious....

Do you believe it's possible God created other life/beings that exist even now in the universe - or do you think we are completely alone?

There is other life in separate worlds/dimensions/realities. We, humans, do not belong there in their reality any more than they belong here in ours. This is my opinion anyway.

 

[louis]

Absolutely no offense intended to anyone, but looking for evidence/suggestions, etc. of extraterrestrial life in the Bible is a bit like looking for evidence of cell phone usage in the Bible - it just isn't there; why would you ever think it would be?

Actually, when the Lord states, His having formed the earth to be inhabited (Isaiah 45:18), seems to me to indicate Him having formed other worlds to also be inhabited.

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.

 

[Angela53510]

Guess it’s a matter of opinion. Evolution has been proven; it’s just that certain groups are hell-bent on a literal Genesis and no degree of proof will ever be enough to convenience them otherwise.

This post just shows how lacking your science background is. You probably listen to the likes of Dawkins, false news and garbage stuff. Which kind of makes you "not" a Christian, in my estimation. (NOT saying that anyone who believes in evolution is not saved, just the way Kavik puts it stretches his credulity.

So first, nothing in science is ever "proven." It can be "correlated" to a high degree, but a theory is NOT a law. But, it really doesn't even apply to this situation.

Science approaches questions as hypothesis, experiments are designed and the results are statistically analyzed to see if the experimental results correspond to the statistical comparison. So, in order to be an experiment, it has to be done now, in real time. So, neither evolution or creation can be experimentally explored, because one of them happened long ago, then other did not happen at all.

In fact, creation and evolution are paradigms or models of the beginnings of life. And there is evidence supporting both, I concede. But, neither can ever be correlated, nor proven, as you say.

I have read so much about creation science, and I have an science undergrad degree, specifically in physical geography and biogeography. Even one professor at my university, presented both paradigms, and told us to look into it, and see which we believed. I started believing in special creation before I was saved, and it is wonderful to see so many explanations for creation, that people have figured out in the years since 1980.

Of course, the best reason to believe in creation, is that is what the Bible says. I know God did not get it wrong, when he told Moses and other biblical writers to affirm special creation. He could just as easily have had them write about evolution, but he did not.

So, please find out about what science is really about. I was taught the basis of scientific theories by evolutionist/atheists. But, I came to see, the theories were certainly more reliable than just shouting something is "proven" with no evidence.

And do look at some more scientific sources supporting creation. Creation Research Institute has many PhD scientists and their articles are peer reviewed. You would do well to spend some time on this site, and then read the works of some actual evolutionary science, and also learn about the scientific method.

Here is the link:
https://www.icr.org/topics

In the end, you may decide for evolution. But at least you will have properly researched both paradigms and hopefully as you compare them, you will see the mass of evidence supporting creation.

 

[iamsoandso]

This post just shows how lacking your science background is. You probably listen to the likes of Dawkins, false news and garbage stuff. Which kind of makes you "not" a Christian, in my estimation. (NOT saying that anyone who believes in evolution is not saved, just the way Kavik puts it stretches his credulity.

So first, nothing in science is ever "proven." It can be "correlated" to a high degree, but a theory is NOT a law. But, it really doesn't even apply to this situation.

Science approaches questions as hypothesis, experiments are designed and the results are statistically analyzed to see if the experimental results correspond to the statistical comparison. So, in order to be an experiment, it has to be done now, in real time. So, neither evolution or creation can be experimentally explored, because one of them happened long ago, then other did not happen at all.

In fact, creation and evolution are paradigms or models of the beginnings of life. And there is evidence supporting both, I concede. But, neither can ever be correlated, nor proven, as you say.

I have read so much about creation science, and I have an science undergrad degree, specifically in physical geography and biogeography. Even one professor at my university, presented both paradigms, and told us to look into it, and see which we believed. I started believing in special creation before I was saved, and it is wonderful to see so many explanations for creation, that people have figured out in the years since 1980.

Of course, the best reason to believe in creation, is that is what the Bible says. I know God did not get it wrong, when he told Moses and other biblical writers to affirm special creation. He could just as easily have had them write about evolution, but he did not.

So, please find out about what science is really about. I was taught the basis of scientific by evolutionist/atheists. But, I came to see, the theories were certainly more reliable than just shouting something is "proven" with no evidence.

And do look at some more scientific sources supporting creation. Creation Research Institute has many PhD scientists and their articles are peer reviewed. You would do well to spend some time on this site, and then read the works of some actual evolutionary science, and also learn about the scientific method.

Here is the link:
https://www.icr.org/topics

In the end, you may decide for evolution. But at least you will have properly researched both paradigms and hopefully as you compare them, you will see the mass of evidence supporting creation.

I believe in the Biblical creation also. I always wondered how the meaning of "Savior" is viewed by evolutionist and cannot see that they could not hold to any but atheist. I'm saying this to you because of what you said about your school assignment,lol

Anyway why I say this is if in Gods creation evolution is involved then from the beginning of man he/we since we were then not fully evolved would also be innocent of sin(not evolved enough in the beginning) and so no Savior would be needed to come. As mankind evolved and became even more advanced to a point where they would be held accountable of sin it would still mean that their creator had created them in a process of evolution and they would still not need a Savior because the creator who made us would be responsible for what sins we committed until we evolved into a creature that was evolved enough to be held accountable.

So in evolution because they/we are in a process of evolving it removes the need for a Savior in saving mankind and transferres the blame of sin to the creator and the need for the creator in need of a Savior which makes no sense,lol. Reincarnation would end up the same if we were born again and again until we became a perfect creation then no need for a Savior again,lol Parden me for venting please I just had to get it out,lol

 

[Kavik]

So how does creationist theory answer things like why we have vestigial organs such as an appendix, coccyx, wisdom teeth, etc.? How does it answer questions like why people who live in the extreme north (some Inuit, some peoples of Siberia, etc) have larger cores and shorter appendages (arms, legs)? Just curious.

 

[Kavik]

Even language evolves - one parent tongue thousands of years ago (e.g. Proto Indo-European) , many related languages now. Many of which are vastly different from each other, yet all have a common ancestor long since gone (or 'evolved' into what we have today).

 

[Budman]

So how does creationist theory answer things like why we have vestigial organs such as an appendix, coccyx, wisdom teeth, etc.? How does it answer questions like why people who live in the extreme north (some Inuit, some peoples of Siberia, etc) have larger cores and shorter appendages (arms, legs)? Just curious.

Sure.

Have a look: Vestigial Organs

And no one disputes adaption within a species based upon environmental extremes. We dispute one species (or "kind") evolving into a different species.

We also dispute life creating itself from inanimate matter, and a universe creating itself from nothing.

And if God used evolution to create, why not just say so in scripture? Why would Jesus and the biblical writers treat Genesis as actual history?

Couldn't God have easily said something like: "I have guided the seed of life through the ages by my hand, molding and nurturing it, directing it's progress until the crown of my creation emerged - man - whom I thus infused with my spirit."

God certainly could have worded better than I - but you get the point.

 

[louis]

Isaiah 65:25 where the lion shall eat straw like the bullock seems to me to be God guiding and moulding an inteligent design evolution.

Isaiah 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

 

[Budman]

Isaiah 65:25 where the lion shall eat straw like the bullock seems to me to be God guiding and moulding an inteligent design evolution.

Isaiah 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

God predicting the future isn't "evolution".

 

[dcontroversal]

Sure.

Have a look: Vestigial Organs

And no one disputes adaption within a species based upon environmental extremes. We dispute one species (or "kind") evolving into a different species.

We also dispute life creating itself from inanimate matter, and a universe creating itself from nothing.

And if God used evolution to create, why not just say so in scripture? Why would Jesus and the biblical writers treat Genesis as actual history?

Couldn't God have easily said something like: "I have guided the seed of life through the ages by my hand, molding and nurturing it, directing it's progress until the crown of my creation emerged - man - whom I thus infused with my spirit."

God certainly could have worded better than I - but you get the point.

You know I fully believe that God created everything, but it is interesting to note that he said....

Let the SEA bring forth <----everything that flies came from the sea.......

and

Let the Earth bring forth

 

[presidente]

God did not originate from the earth. It seems apparent that the angels did not. At least the beings termed 'sons of God' in Job did not.

 

[Budman]

You know I fully believe that God created everything, but it is interesting to note that he said....

Let the SEA bring forth <----everything that flies came from the sea.......

and

Let the Earth bring forth

Do you believe God created mankind via evolution?

 

[dcontroversal]

Do you believe God created mankind via evolution?

Obviously not.....just pointing out what Genesis states......I cannot believe you actually asked me that........HAHHAH

Create from the Hebrew to cut, form and fashion....I fully believe God created everything and like I said was pointing out what Genesis states....

Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind"; and it was so.

And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Fully believe God engineered and brought man up complete from the dirt and breathed into his mouth the breath of lives (plural in Hebrew)

 

[Budman]

Obviously not.....just pointing out what Genesis states......I cannot believe you actually asked me that........HAHHAH

I simply asked because I don't know everything about you and what you believe on all subjects. So, instead of assuming, it's always good to ask the person.

I will say, of all the people I've encountered on CC so far, your theology and mine are virtually identical.

 

[Radius]

There is other life in separate worlds/dimensions/realities. We, humans, do not belong there in their reality any more than they belong here in ours. This is my opinion anyway.

I totally believe the same thing. Who knows, maybe there are unfallen civilzations out there and maybe there are fallen ones, too, like us. I believe once we go to Heaven maybe God will send us to some of these places to witness to them.