Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

cv5

Well-known member
Nov 20, 2018
23,034
8,375
113
Well, thats how you understand him.
For me he never would be an option to vote.
So then Trump's show of bravado and courage in the face of live fire was not genuine enough for you?
Cuz he is the real deal man. No joke.

Just get him in there and see if he goes all Andrew Jackson on the bad guys. And commies.

Voting for the communist harlot would be a very bad idea BTW.
 

cv5

Well-known member
Nov 20, 2018
23,034
8,375
113

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,778
6,742
113
I think this is a much more suitable job for her, is she now going to be the woman on the school bus that supervises the little kids? Good for the Democrats, they had a tough situation there for a minute but I think they have come up with a workable solution. Obviously you couldn't have given that job to Joe Biden, no one wants him on a school bus with their little girls.
 

cv5

Well-known member
Nov 20, 2018
23,034
8,375
113
Looks like Kamalatov is channeling Alexandra Kollontai....

Alexandra Kollontai (1872-1952) was a Russian revolutionary, diplomat, and prominent figure in the socialist and feminist movements of the early 20th century. She was a fervent advocate for women’s rights, social reform, and workers’ liberation. Kollontai joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party and aligned with the Bolshevik faction led by Vladimir Lenin.

She played a significant role in the Russian Revolution of 1917 and served in the Soviet government after the Bolsheviks came to power. As People’s Commissar for Social Welfare in the Soviet government, Kollontai worked on various social and family policies, including maternity support, child care, and legalizing abortion. She was instrumental in the introduction of progressive measures aimed at improving the status of women and families in Soviet society.
 

wolfwint

Senior Member
Feb 15, 2014
3,759
936
113
62
So then Trump's show of bravado and courage in the face of live fire was not genuine enough for you?
Cuz he is the real deal man. No joke.

Just get him in there and see if he goes all Andrew Jackson on the bad guys. And commies.

Voting for the communist harlot would be a very bad idea BTW.
Of course voting for communist is no option either.

In germany their is no realy a party which I prefer as Christian then the CDU. It is according the Christian values the best yoice.
But if there leader would perform like Trump does. I would not longer vote for them.
Then finaly I would give it in the Lords hand. In the knowledge that we are in the endtimes. And it will come more worse in future. We cant stop it. It is the Lords Plan for the world.
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
12,689
1,103
113
Yup - constitutionally the U.S. COULD NOT OFFICIALLY declare itself to be a "Christian nation". The founding fathers had experience with "Official religion", and it's toxic effects. Religion, after all, was the primary motivation for murdering Jesus.

However for a LEADER of the U.S. to be, and display the Biblical characteristics of a Born Again Christian individual would be better than to have a leader who had no "Moral compass" at all.
I think Donald Trump is a con artist and a demagogue
Some of the things Republicans are doing might come back and bite them in the butt like trying to force religious stuff into schools. What's going to happen when someone like the satanic temple wants their literature in schools
You don't want to create that precedent
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,327
6,696
113
I think Donald Trump is a con artist and a demagogue
Some of the things Republicans are doing might come back and bite them in the butt like trying to force religious stuff into schools. What's going to happen when someone like the satanic temple wants their literature in schools
You don't want to create that precedent
as far as the satanic church getting into schools , they already have, been doing it for several years. " before school satan club", " after school satan club" are going on right now ( or the last school year).

if you would listen to alex jones ( still going strong), you would know these things.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,778
6,742
113
as far as the satanic church getting into schools , they already have, been doing it for several years. " before school satan club", " after school satan club" are going on right now ( or the last school year).

if you would listen to alex jones ( still going strong), you would know these things.
The Public school is a failed system. We spend far too much money per student for utterly terrible results. You can't overhaul it with voting, the left has thoroughly infiltrated the school boards and the unions, it would take 30 years to clean it out with elections and so you would lose 3 generations of children. No, only one hope and that is pull your kids and homeschool, working together with the church.
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,327
6,696
113
The Public school is a failed system. We spend far too much money per student for utterly terrible results. You can't overhaul it with voting, the left has thoroughly infiltrated the school boards and the unions, it would take 30 years to clean it out with elections and so you would lose 3 generations of children. No, only one hope and that is pull your kids and homeschool, working together with the church.
the teacher's union runs the school system. the boards and principles are subject to them..
 

Tamarisk

Active member
Jan 2, 2023
217
33
28
I think Donald Trump is a con artist and a demagogue
Some of the things Republicans are doing might come back and bite them in the butt like trying to force religious stuff into schools. What's going to happen when someone like the satanic temple wants their literature in schools
You don't want to create that precedent
And that’s the key point we need to stick to during this campaign. You can’t deny that he fits that definition. And when they criticize us for drawing similarities between Trump and Hitler, we need to point out that Hitler was a Demagogue according to the definition and so is Trump. It’s impossible not to compare the two.

From Wikipedia

A demagogue (/ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/; from Greek δημαγωγός, a popular leader, a leader of a mob, from δῆμος, people, populace, the commons + ἀγωγός leading, leader),[1] or rabble-rouser,[2][3]is a political leader in a democracy who gains popularity by arousing the common peopleagainst elites, especially through oratory that whips up the passions of crowds, appealing to emotion by scapegoating out-groups, exaggerating dangers to stoke fears, lying for emotional effect, or other rhetoric that tends to drown out reasoned deliberation and encourage fanatical popularity.[4] Demagogues overturn established norms of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so.[5]: 32–38 

Historian Reinhard Luthin defined demagogue as "a politician skilled in oratory, flattery and invective; evasive in discussing vital issues; promising everything to everybody; appealing to the passions rather than the reason of the public; and arousing racial, religious, and class prejudices—a man whose lust for power without recourse to principle leads him to seek to become a master of the masses. He has for centuries practiced his profession of 'man of the people'. He is a product of a political tradition nearly as old as western civilization itself."[6]: 3 
Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. Demagogues exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, it is possible for the people to give that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.[5]: 31–71 Demagogues have usually advocated immediate, forceful action to address a crisis while accusing moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness or disloyalty. Many demagogues elected to high executive office have unraveled constitutional limits on executive power and tried to convert their democracy into a dictatorship, sometimes successfully.
 

Squigglylines

Active member
Jul 10, 2024
202
33
28
Of course voting for communist is no option either.

In germany their is no realy a party which I prefer as Christian then the CDU. It is according the Christian values the best yoice.
But if there leader would perform like Trump does. I would not longer vote for them.
Then finaly I would give it in the Lords hand. In the knowledge that we are in the endtimes. And it will come more worse in future. We cant stop it. It is the Lords Plan for the world.

I don't think their suppose to see that far into it, instead their suppose to be walking on this path.
 

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,298
4,344
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia
as far as the satanic church getting into schools , they already have, been doing it for several years. " before school satan club", " after school satan club" are going on right now ( or the last school year).

if you would listen to alex jones ( still going strong), you would know these things.
Who do you guess was the most liberal senator according to aGovTrack poll in 2019?
 

cv5

Well-known member
Nov 20, 2018
23,034
8,375
113
I wouldn't vote for either ticket. I believe there's just as good a chance Trump and his MAGA and Christian nationalist minions will destroy the country. Toss a coin.
You could be right.
Its either them or the communists though.

And the communists are ALREADY destroying the country.

I'll take curtain #3.....the guy that they are trying to jail and assassinate. Safest bet by far.
 

cv5

Well-known member
Nov 20, 2018
23,034
8,375
113
And that’s the key point we need to stick to during this campaign. You can’t deny that he fits that definition. And when they criticize us for drawing similarities between Trump and Hitler, we need to point out that Hitler was a Demagogue according to the definition and so is Trump. It’s impossible not to compare the two.

From Wikipedia

A demagogue (/ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/; from Greek δημαγωγός, a popular leader, a leader of a mob, from δῆμος, people, populace, the commons + ἀγωγός leading, leader),[1] or rabble-rouser,[2][3]is a political leader in a democracy who gains popularity by arousing the common peopleagainst elites, especially through oratory that whips up the passions of crowds, appealing to emotion by scapegoating out-groups, exaggerating dangers to stoke fears, lying for emotional effect, or other rhetoric that tends to drown out reasoned deliberation and encourage fanatical popularity.[4] Demagogues overturn established norms of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so.[5]: 32–38 

Historian Reinhard Luthin defined demagogue as "a politician skilled in oratory, flattery and invective; evasive in discussing vital issues; promising everything to everybody; appealing to the passions rather than the reason of the public; and arousing racial, religious, and class prejudices—a man whose lust for power without recourse to principle leads him to seek to become a master of the masses. He has for centuries practiced his profession of 'man of the people'. He is a product of a political tradition nearly as old as western civilization itself."[6]: 3 
Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. Demagogues exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, it is possible for the people to give that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.[5]: 31–71 Demagogues have usually advocated immediate, forceful action to address a crisis while accusing moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness or disloyalty. Many demagogues elected to high executive office have unraveled constitutional limits on executive power and tried to convert their democracy into a dictatorship, sometimes successfully.
Yet the demagogic rhetoric from the "progressive left" commies is by far the most incendiary, hateful, bizarre.
Add to that their BLM useful idiots, and Antifa brownshirts burning looting and pillaging on command.
Don't forget too that they share a flea-bitten bed with Soros and his gang of globalists.

The commie nutters and their cohorts have to go one way or another. Thats all that can be done at this point.
 

ResidentAlien

Well-known member
Apr 21, 2021
8,318
3,619
113
Sorry, a president what name ever who is trying to get votes through make other people bad and insult them is never a good president. Also in a country with such many different people and ethnic groups he should try to unit, instead of split them. Special then when he claimes to be a Christian! From a non Christian you of course can expect everything to become in power! But you cant trust Him!
Exactly. Donald Trump is the same ol' childish bully who hurled insults at Rosie O'donnell; only now he does it with political opponents.
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
12,689
1,103
113
as far as the satanic church getting into schools , they already have, been doing it for several years. " before school satan club", " after school satan club" are going on right now ( or the last school year).

if you would listen to alex jones ( still going strong), you would know these things.
Alex Jones is a clown and so is anyone who listens to him
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,327
6,696
113
Alex Jones is a clown and so is anyone who listens to him
so, i have known about the satanic temple and their school programs for years, saw the stories on infowars,

my guess would be that you did not know about them. i assume you did not know, if i am wrong, sorry.

so, you see, learning about things is not clownish. :cool:
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,778
6,742
113
so, i have known about the satanic temple and their school programs for years, saw the stories on infowars,

my guess would be that you did not know about them. i assume you did not know, if i am wrong, sorry.

so, you see, learning about things is not clownish. :cool:
The most ridiculous thing he said was about the danger of putting the ten commandments in the schools because it will open the door to the Satanists. The door is already wide open to the Satanists. I know teachers who read from the Koran in class, that is fine, do it with the Bible and you will be fired. I know teachers who have a yoga club, that also is fine, but no teacher can suggest a Bible study club, that would get you fired. Only kids can make that suggestion but they can't have a club without a teacher,, the ole Catch 22. It is perfectly OK for a pagan, moslem, Hindu, or atheist to talk about their faith in class, but if a teacher does they will be fired. They will even have school assemblies with people from these faiths, but try to bring in a Christian to talk about their faith and ministry. Let's see how far that takes you.

They justify this saying that they are prohibiting proselytizing. Really? Because I have seen Tik Tok videos of teachers talking about what they are doing and it is clearly proselytizing for a whole host of Satanic organizations.

Not only so but you can't believe how much TV is shown in class these days, particularly to the lower performing students. If a teacher is absent they will leave a movie for the class to watch. Think of Disney. Now we all should know by now that Disney is simply a Satanic organization all dressed up with a ribbon and bow.

Also schools require that you decorate your room for various holidays: Halloween and Christmas. Two pagan holidays. Santa, Reindeer, Christmas trees are all acceptable, but depictions of the Baby Jesus, that is out.