Does it have to be worship music?

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KD

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Wondering y’all’s thoughts on this...

If a Christian makes music does it have to be worship.

I see a lot of videos on YouTube discrediting some contemporary artist for lack of content or presenting a watered down gospel.

My thoughts are that not all Christian musicians are not necessarily ministers. Therefore, their music can still be Godly without actual being considering worship like a classical hymn or something that’s clearly praise and worship music

I’m not talking about certain artists or groups that may promote worldly views opposite of Christian values or particular groups who have been affiliated with churches that preach a false gospel.

Examples I would submit would be someone like Zach Williams, while he definitely has some praise and worship songs some of his music is just good vibes. I really enjoy his music.

Another would be some Christian hip hop. I wouldn’t consider this to be worship music but some do promote Christian values and are thought provoking.

If you are a Christian artist is there artistic freedom to create something other than what would be considered worship music??
 

Subhumanoidal

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Something doesn't have to be worship to have incorrect doctrine, so that concept is immediately squashed.
And I'd say most people don't expect all Christian music to be worship.
My bigger beef is the idea of turning worship music into casual listening entertsinment and having concerts like pop shows.

But I'd say presenting the gospel is separate from worship, and since it's presenting the gospel poor doctrine is still poor doctrine.

Really the concept of Christian music is a cultural one as no such notion exists biblically. Yes, there's worship that's biblical but the modern concept is not.
Even the old hymns are nothing more than the adaption of worldly music into church music. So the notion that they are somehow more Christian is a man made idea.

But there are famous Christian musicians in secular bands as well. So how do you handle that notion?
 

KD

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Something doesn't have to be worship to have incorrect doctrine, so that concept is immediately squashed.

-I agree with this. I think in any form of expression you can present something contrary to sound doctrine.

And I'd say most people don't expect all Christian music to be worship.
My bigger beef is the idea of turning worship music into casual listening entertsinment and having concerts like pop shows.

-I think a lot of people do have expectations for artist who pronounce their faith.

But I'd say presenting the gospel is separate from worship, and since it's presenting the gospel poor doctrine is still poor doctrine.

-You’re correct poor doctrine is poor doctrine but my idea of worship music is the presentation of God’s word.

Really the concept of Christian music is a cultural one as no such notion exists biblically. Yes, there's worship that's biblical but the modern concept is not.
Even the old hymns are nothing more than the adaption of worldly music into church music. So the notion that they are somehow more Christian is a man made idea.

-This is a great point. I used the example of a classic hymn b/c I see this notion often that theyre much more pure than any contemporary music.

But there are famous Christian musicians in secular bands as well. So how do you handle that notion?

-I don’t have an issue with this at the core.
I don’t think creating or listening to secular music disqualifies you as a believer. I have noticed in my own walk that as I’ve grown as a man, as a believer as a father my taste in music has changed. What was once acceptable and enjoyed no longer carries those same qualities.
 
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hub and I are musicians - after conversion, just the thought of writing/playing music that doesn't glorify our Saviour
and what He has done for us is not even in any way going to come into our 'hearts'...:):) - CAN'T HAPPEN!!
 
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Hi, new here . I believe the music in your heart, if it speaks of hope, love, and charity.....then you may consider God has inspired it. I've hear "worship" music that was focused on entertaining more than praise.....and at times in my life, especially before I came to the Lord, but even now, God used what would otherwise be called secular music to reach me and strengthen me and pick-me-up
 

KD

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Oops..tried to reply to the individual points and put my response into subs post.

Something doesn't have to be worship to have incorrect doctrine, so that concept is immediately squashed.

-I agree with this. I think in any form of expression you can present something contrary to sound doctrine.

And I'd say most people don't expect all Christian music to be worship.
My bigger beef is the idea of turning worship music into casual listening entertsinment and having concerts like pop shows.

-I think a lot of people do have expectations for artist who pronounce their faith.

But I'd say presenting the gospel is separate from worship, and since it's presenting the gospel poor doctrine is still poor doctrine.

-You’re correct poor doctrine is poor doctrine but my idea of worship music is the presentation of God’s word.

Really the concept of Christian music is a cultural one as no such notion exists biblically. Yes, there's worship that's biblical but the modern concept is not.
Even the old hymns are nothing more than the adaption of worldly music into church music. So the notion that they are somehow more Christian is a man made idea.

-This is a great point. I used the example of a classic hymn b/c I see this notion often that theyre much more pure than any contemporary music.

But there are famous Christian musicians in secular bands as well. So how do you handle that notion?

-I don’t have an issue with this at the core.
I don’t think creating or listening to secular music disqualifies you as a believer. I have noticed in my own walk that as I’ve grown as a man, as a believer as a father my taste in music has changed. What was once acceptable and enjoyed no longer carries those same qualities.
 
K

Kim82

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There are some worship music, that doesn't have the name of God in it. That's strange. Who or what are those people worshiping?
 

Odelschwanck

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I'd say I agree with you KD and Subhumanoidal